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motonguvu

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I don't understand this comment? If you mean the web site, you can buy her book if you wish, but all the information is freely available on the site.

btw here is the info, but not as nicely formatted

Here is the information we give to new members and I think you will find it answers some of your questions. Ask anything else you need to know and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

Reduce your carbohydrate intake
Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Dear sir i am sorry for my late reply i am really scare and do not feel comfortable to coup up with unknown enemy
sometimes i am sitting and found complit blank cant see anything i wish to know how to monitor sugar and what is best observations of others who monitor regular and qty of meal they eat and reading difference
really there is no way body will start producing insulin again? thanks for your support and help
 

Lamont D

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I don't check after an hour because the readings fluctuate wildly. I check before eating and two hours after.
I eat small meals with very low GI carbs. Most of the carbs I eat are from vegetables or in fruit. I eat regularly and often. It can be difficult as I don't eat dairy or cooked vegetables.
For example;
Breakfast, omelette, with ham
Mid morning, apple
Lunch, bacon lettuce tomato,
Mid afternoon, strawberrys digestive biscuit.
Evening meal, Pork, butter beans, peas.
Supper 85% chocolates 2 pieces only

I only use small sized plates so that I know that I am not overeating

This works for me.
 
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motonguvu

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how small we can eat 100 gram? maximum portions any idea where i can get charts and tables increase of percentage for carbo hidrate intake for examle if i take 50 gram white rice and 200 gram white rice what is spike lavel
 

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what is reading after one hour and how much qty u eat? i mean approximate qty of food you eat and it will rise level of blood suger
If I eat one slice of bread my BG rises by about 1.5-2 after 90 minutes. If I eat 2 slices it rises by 2- 2.5.
 

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how small we can eat 100 gram? maximum portions any idea where i can get charts and tables increase of percentage for carbo hidrate intake for examle if i take 50 gram white rice and 200 gram white rice what is spike lavel
Everyone is different. The only way to really tell is by testing.
 

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I do not eat rice now. It is one of the thing which have the worst effect on me. Finely chopped cauliflower lightly cooked is a good substitute. Sometimes I mix a little barley in with it.
 

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No thanks! I wouldn't be able to eat any carbs, just before I went in hospital, I was getting hypers of above 12 from 4.1, then crashing down to under 3, after a low GI meal.

Today I had a low GI bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich and my bloods only rose after 2 hours by 1.7.
Really made up with that,

Numerous symptoms have got better and some have completely disappeared

I am trying to answer your questions and thanks for your interest!
What bread did you use for the sandwich?
 

Lamont D

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I get a low GI bread from my local bakers, it only raises my BSLs up a smidgen after testing and retesting after 2 hours!
 

Lamont D

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15,793
Type of diabetes
Reactive hypoglycemia
Treatment type
I do not have diabetes
I do not eat rice now. It is one of the thing which have the worst effect on me. Finely chopped cauliflower lightly cooked is a good substitute. Sometimes I mix a little barley in with it.
Basmati rice is slightly different in structure and lower GI than other rices, I have tried it once so far, I got a 3 point rise, but I think I ate too much!
 

this is too difficult

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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diabetes
I don't check after an hour because the readings fluctuate wildly. I check before eating and two hours after.
I eat small meals with very low GI carbs. Most of the carbs I eat are from vegetables or in fruit. I eat regularly and often. It can be difficult as I don't eat dairy or cooked vegetables.
For example;
Breakfast, omelette, with ham
Mid morning, apple
Lunch, bacon lettuce tomato,
Mid afternoon, strawberrys digestive biscuit.
Evening meal, Pork, butter beans, peas.
Supper 85% chocolates 2 pieces only

I only use small sized plates so that I know that I am not overeating

This works for me.
The reason we test after an hour or so is to find the level of the spike. If you are up 2 after 2 hours you were probably much higher at some point. That is the spike.
 

this is too difficult

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Dear sir i am sorry for my late reply i am really scare and do not feel comfortable to coup up with unknown enemy
sometimes i am sitting and found complit blank cant see anything i wish to know how to monitor sugar and what is best observations of others who monitor regular and qty of meal they eat and reading difference
really there is no way body will start producing insulin again? thanks for your support and help
Your body is still producing insulin. You need to cut out or reduce high carbohydrate foods. If you tell us what you might eat in a typical day it will be easier for people to advise you.
 
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Lamont D

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The reason we test after an hour or so is to find the level of the spike. If you are up 2 after 2 hours you were probably much higher at some point. That is the spike.
We agree to disagree, maybe it's me!!! I have been told and recommended by my health team to not check the 1 hour spike as the 2 hour is a more reliable reading.
I am open to testing at any time maybe I'll go to testing at 1 hour and2 hour when I'm testing specifically.

It's fun to test!
 
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