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  1. I was reading a thread this morning where posters said that they were never asked about food, were told not to test since they would get sore fingers. It reminded of an incident from a few years ago.

    BACKGROUND: I like KFC but was not sure if it was harmful to D2's so I looked up their nutrition table on the web site. I was very pleased to see that if you only had the original recipe chicken then it was acceptably low in carbs. That was enough for me since it's the original recipe that I like, the ones with bones in. I didn't look up the other stuff but found with my meter that the fries were best avoided.

    So, fast forward a bit and I went to the surgery for the foot tickling. The nurse involved is very professional apart from sometimes when she gets a bit stressed. During the testing she asked what I was going to have for lunch and I truthfully replied that I was thinking of KFC. This was a mistake.

    She drew herself up into nagging posture and said that it was not a good idea. I asked what the problem was and she said that the clue was in the name.

    I don't think she objected to chicken or Kentucky so I reasoned that she was worried about the fried word. This is a classic case of preaching dogma with no evidence to back it up. Fried = fat so it is bad and you get a pushy nurse in your face. It's a knee jerk reaction. It's a prepared food, is fried, so is bad when the nutrition table says otherwise.

    The knee jerk reaction does not only apply to that very nice nurse since I see that PHCUK, in their resources section have a familiar looking bucket in the to be avoided section. Has anyone actually looked it up.


  2. When I was a young engineer I was trained in logic. I am not a Vulcan but in electronics there are no emotions, just voltages and currents.

    There were circuits that didn’t do anything unless you gave the right inputs. Living room lights, switch turned off, living room dark. That’s logic.

    I see all the videos and advice about type 2 diabetes and I can’t help but think in the same way since it is my training. I look at all the inputs.

    Lack of insulin due to pancreas clogged up with fat.

    Insulin resistance due to bingeing on carbohydrates for years. ( I have the same result with alcohol. It just doesn’t have the same effect anymore).

    I can add one here.

    If the fat in the pancreas blocks off the beta cells then why doesn’t it block off the alpha cells?

    I can see what happens if the various conditions apply but from a purely logical point of view.

    1. Insulin resistance but good alpha and beta cells. This might result in high blood sugar.

    2. Lack of insulin due to beta cells clogged up with fat. Type 2 diabetes.

    3. Lack of Glucogon due to alpha cells clogged up with fat. Reactive hypoglycaemia.
  3. I was talking to a doctor years ago who told me that if a patient had doctor’s orders that made them uncomfortable then they usually forgot all about it in three weeks or so. This is why New Year resolutions are never carried as far as February. It is also the reason for yo-yo dieting where the dieter goes on a slimming diet and ends up heavier than they were when they started. I have also known smokers who gave up smoking hundreds of times but never for good.

    When I was diagnosed as a T2 diabetic the measure they used was the high level of sugar in my blood and when I was given a meter I stupidly thought it was provided to help me control the sugar in my blood. I never, for a moment thought it was to help me avoid hypos since I didn’t suffer from those. I used the meter to monitor what different foods did to my blood sugar levels.

    Soon I found that other people were doing the same thing and they were keeping going for longer than the three week rule the doctor told me about. In other words they had found a sustainable process by finding new low carb meals and replacing a high carb meal with them. They never went hungry which would have made them uncomfortable and caused them to find an excuse to stop.

    As we all know low carb was the basis of not only the LC movement but also the ETYM, LCHF and various IF procedures all of which seemed to work and yet are sustainable.

    All except one that is.

    You see, I like wine. My lifestyle will only be sustainable if I can eat the good food as all LCers do and yet drink wine. This has not been possible since wine sends my numbers through the roof and life became that much less entertaining.

    The options were,

    1. Give up wine. Unfortunately the three week rule and my demons made this impossible.

    2. Find a sustainable method to drink wine and keep low numbers. (Fat chance)

    Until last week that is when me and my Libre had a close look at the problem. I made this discovery.

    My body insulin (Type 2) seems to be produced at exactly the correct rate to cope with my rate of wine drinking. In short, wherever my sugars were when I opened the bottle then this was the level that the spike was maintained at. Since like most civilized people drink wine with their meal I got a spike which wine turned into a long horizontal line starting from the top of the meal spike.

    It had never occurred to me to wait until the spike was over but it did occur to me now. Not the two hour level but when it went away totally which could be three+ hours. Now when I drank wine I still got a horizontal line but it was at the resting level and not the spike level. The two sample days I chose to make me look clever were 9.9 av. And 7.3 av. Libre says that carrying on at the higher level would have given me an Hba1c in the mid 50’s (given that there were other days not quite so high) but the lower level will put me in the low 40’s (since I also get lower than 7.3 on some days).

    I suppose that anyone not as fortunate as me to have an insulin rate that matches my wine rate will have to change their rate of consumption. I shall decree a new unit of measurement. Body insulin needed to catalyse one bottle of wine will henceforth be known as one Glug.

    So there you have it. Sustainable eating and sustainable drinking. Diabetes is not so bad after all.
  4. I went for an eye test and a spectacle purchase at Tesco yesterday. Since the lodger wanted shopping and his car works we both went in his. I told him what I wanted, got a scanner for Scan and Shop and left him to it while I saw the optician. I met up with him for a final decision as to whether we had got everything and headed for the checkout.

    It said we were going to get a spot check (which failed). Not being sure why it failed the nice lady said that she was going to have to turf everything out and do it all again, which she did. The lodger thought it might be due to the soup since the thing beeped twice when he scanned it. Instead of deleting one he just got a second can. Unfortunately the second can was a different recipe so got into the trolley unscanned. It was his fault if you disregard the scanners ability to double strike.

    This caused me to think back over the time that I have used Scan and Shop and I am becoming of the opinion that it is not fit for purpose.

    I have only ever got through the checkout without assistance on two occasions when I had a small amount of shopping with no complications.

    Any wine in the trolley needs an assistant to OK it. Vouchers that are to be used twice cannot be posted into the slot so the assistant has to trick up the machine to make it think I have posted it. On one occasion this resulted in the male manager dismantling the machine for some reason and when he had finished he posted my voucher. I said, “You nearly got that right”. On another occasion an assistant wrote on the voucher and said, “That’ll make sure you don’t use it more than one more time”. Absolutely charming aren’t they?

    The scanner often says that things are security tagged. Steak is often tagged and the scanner sometimes doesn’t mention it. I got accosted in the car park by security one day since I had set the beeper off. I didn’t know I was the cause and it turned out to be steak again. I now give all meat to the assistant whether the scanner complains or not.

    The other day I gave the meat to the assistant who did what she does to nullify it and the beeper still went off. Another assistant removed the meat from the trolley and the beeper was happy so the first assistant is just no good at zapping meat. It could have ended up being another car park job.

    I got banned once. I tried to get a scanner and it said I couldn’t have one. A manager was called and told me I was banned but there was a note in the log saying it was an accident. They have bar codes on a door and used scanners have to scan one of them for a reason they didn’t explain. The lady beeped the wrong bar code and banned me. She was not of sufficient rank to correct it so put a note in the log. Nothing seems to have been done about that until I came in the following week.

    The bottom line is I feel like a criminal. I have never cheated with the scanner but I have been stopped, shopping searched, had things written on vouchers etc. I bet the computer has forgotten all about the fact that I was once banned. You know how computers forget things. (That’s a joke)

    This system runs on trust but I find it a bit one sided.
  5. Some time ago I read a post by an Australian gentleman who thought he had made a great discovery. He had been advised by the hospital to eat Modified Carbs and this had improved his condition greatly. He made the mistake of thinking that he had discovered it and not just learned it from someone else and he wanted to tell the World about it, as you would.

    I suspect his Modified Carbs is really low carbs but in Australia at the moment it would be unwise for a hospital to refer to it as low carbs unless you wanted to sit next to Gary Fettke in the Senate Inquiry.

    He is not alone in wanting to tell the world about something that he learned. He is also not alone in having a name for it. William Banting (1796-1878) did just this by writing a pamphlet and selling it for sixpence a copy and so made money from it. The pamphlet was in its fourth edition before he credited Dr. William Harvey with giving him the information. In some parts of the world the low carb diet is still called the Banting diet.

    When I first got my meter I did a lot of testing. I needed to know which foods raised my blood sugars most, and in what quantities I could eat things while keeping the blood sugar low. About that time I joined the DCUK forum and people were describing what I was doing as Eat To Your Meter. I suppose that is what I was doing, it’s just that I hadn’t given it a name. The people engaged in this were pretty adamant that this was the way to go and were quite pushy about giving out advice on the subject. I just carried on with what I was doing. I suppose that since they had “discovered” this they wanted to tell the world about it.

    In time I didn’t need to test as much. Once you have proved about fifty times that bread gives you a spike you can save yourself some test strips by just not eating bread. When you have learned that carbs are the problem you can save yourself even more test strips by just looking at the label on the food and not eating those with a high carb content. They call this low carbing. The people engaged in this were pretty adamant that this was the way to go and were quite pushy about giving out advice on the subject. I just carried on with what I was doing. I suppose that since they had “discovered” this they wanted to tell the world about it.

    In time the ETYM group and the low carbers fell out. It’s perfectly understandable since they both thought they knew everything and were intolerant of anyone who wouldn’t do as they said.

    Now we have High Fat (HF). This is not wrong but confusing. Every now and again a newbie asks if they can stop spooning lard into their face yet. Gary Fettke calls it Healthy Fat but the High Fatters will have none of it. So be it. We are currently at the LCHF stage. I interpret HF as just not eating goods labelled Low Fat since substitutes have probably been added and that is not good.

    I could cut and paste that bit of the above paragraph again but by now you are probably getting the idea. The LCHF people as well as the LC and the ETYM people all think they know it all and will try to convert any unenlightened person into their cadre.

    Step back a moment. We all have diabetes. We are all looking to manage it. Some use their meter more than others do. For just about all of us the result is that we don’t eat as much carb laden food since we find it raises our blood sugar. Those who are overweight benefit from LCHF since you can’t really lose weight (unless starved) without eating fat to provoke the hormone Leptin.

    We are all in the same boat so can we stop arguing over the method used and thinking that we are the only ones who know it all.
  6. I am not into pills if I can avoid them. I have never understood why people swear by taking supplements etc. when they cannot demonstrate a benefit. I know of one person who occasionally says, “I think I can handle an Ibu Profen about now” and then takes one. She has never explained why she does this.

    There is no problem if the person needs them for a particular purpose and gets a benefit. That is just sensible. It has always been the people with racks of multivitamins and such like that I don’t understand especially when they try to get other people to take them since they are “brilliant”.

    My nurse prescribed a fair number of pills a few years ago and I took them in blind faith. One by one they gave me adverse side effects and I don’t take any of them now. Sadly the statins, which were among them, seemed to do permanent damage in that I suffer from a muscle weakness that came on at about the time I was confined to a chair for two (separate) months until nursie was convinced it was the statins that did it. Since then I have done muscle toning exercises to stop things getting any worse. There was a CD published years ago full of such exercises recommended by Hilary Jones. I always rated him since I saw him and Frank Bruno on a TV show both doing exercises and Dr. Jones was encouraging Frank to work faster and Frank was struggling to comply.

    Last year I was thinking about all of this and I decided that I knew nothing of the subject. How could I know if vitamins would benefit me unless I tried some. My idea was that if I took a pill for a week or two and I felt better than before then I must have been short of whatever it was. I ordered some pills from Holland and Barratt and after some weeks I couldn’t tell the difference between taking them and not taking them so I stopped.

    Fast forward to this Spring when there was some TV news that said that due to low levels of sunshine through the winter everyone should be taking vitamin D. I had a bottle of those in the cupboard and decided to take two every day just for the hell of it.

    The funny thing is that for a week or more now I have noticed myself getting stronger. My legs go where I want them to go and I can step over the cat with confidence etc. I didn’t associate the pills with this until quite late on and I still can’t be absolutely sure that there is a connection.

    There was an article by Stephanie Seneff in 2011 which is a bit complex but may describe what is happening.


    Perhaps I should have listened more closely at the time.

    I don’t think that Dr. Seneff is a fan of statins since she has written another article describing exactly how they cause Alzheimers.
  7. I should imagine that everyone has heard the words, “Putting the cart before the horse” before. It usually just means that you are looking at something R Suppards. Getting the transport back into the correct configuration can sometimes be enlightening. I am going to work through an example.

    The opinion expressed about Type 2 diabetics for many years has been that they are always fat and it’s their own fault for eating too much and not taking care of themselves. If they would only follow their doctor’s advice then they would be a lot healthier.

    The Public Health Collaboration produced a document called Healthy Eating Guidelines & Weight Loss Advice for The United Kingdom. Here is a quote from it.

    “The UK has one of the highest prevalence's of obesity in Europe at 25% and the number of people living with type 2 diabetes has more than doubled since 1996 [4] [5]. Both cost the NHS £16 billion a year, and the UK economy at large £47 billion a year [6]. These worrying statistics suggest that there is something wrong with the lifestyles of the UK population.

    However, according to the latest National Diet and Nutrition Survey published in 2014 by PHE and the FSA adults in the UK have been generally following healthy eating guidelines. In fact on average adults in the UK have been eating 383 calories below the recommended daily amount as well as eating just below the recommended 35% for total fat consumption [7]. This seemingly paradoxical situation of following healthy eating guidelines yet having dire health statistics brings into question the very guidelines that the UK population is being asked to follow.”

    It seems that we have become fat and diabetic by following the advice and not disregarding it so suddenly I feel a lot less guilty. The cart is before the horse, or at least has been for the past 50 years or so.

    How did this happen?

    The Health Authorities issued eating advice and the consumers tried to follow it in the belief that it was correct and some became zealots on the subject. Just try to stop people from wringing salt out of everything and you will see what I mean. There is semi skimmed milk (???) and low fat etc. also.

    The innocent food manufacturers point out that they were only following the guidelines as laid down.

    Who, exactly, laid down these guidelines?

    Most people referred to the Healthy Eating Plate (now Guidelines) unless they got a bit of paper from their surgery. I got two pieces of paper, one written by the British Hypertension Society and the other one written by someone on a wet Sunday afternoon.

    Public Health England issue the Healthy Eating Guidelines and they have a committee to decide what it contains. There are reps from the food industry and from the Health Service on this committee but according to the minutes of the meetings the reps from the Health Service never turn up.

    Doctor Zoe Harcombe looked into the constituents of the committee that produce the Guidelines and here is her blog on the subject.


    Some of the more interesting bits are when you click on the red links.

    The reps from the food industry cover just about every food manufacturer I have ever heard of and these people set the guidelines that appear as the Healthy Eating Guidelines which the food industry are innocently following. Hang on, did I get that right.

    The food industry are following the guidelines issued from a committee comprised of reps from the food industry.

    I think the horse and cart are now travelling sideways.
  8. You'll be pleased to know that this has nothing to do with diet or diabetes for once.

    I just uninstalled a program from my computer. I don't know how many of you have Hewlett Packard equipment but I have one of their printers which has performed impeccably since I bought it from Tesco a few years ago and I am happy with it. I uninstalled the Help Assistant and was presented with a questionnaire as to how I dare do that.

    If you have anything from Hewlett Packard then you know that you get copious software with it. I suspect that some of it is gratuitous and only there to show how clever they are, and they are clever since everything works well so why did I uninstall it. Well ..............

    I have a freezer in the kitchen which has never faltered and never let me down but it has a red warning light on the front. This red warning light is lit by a sensor trying to tell me that all is not well with the freezer. I was worried about it for a few weeks and less worried about for a few more weeks and then I got used to the red light and forgot about it. It's still there, just as bright as ever and the food is fine. The red light has been there for fifteen years now and is no bother to anyone. The sensor itself must be the problem. I could pay someone to change it or I could take the bulb out.

    My car is the next issue. There are two of us on the insurance and the other bloke said that there was a light on the dash which he had not seen before and he had booked me into the local garage. I went there and after finding out where to plug their computer in it was diagnosed as one of three possible things. All of them were sensors. I asked if the car was about to break and they looked uncomfortable. I said that they could change two of the sensors of their choice to see if it fixed it. £280 later and the light on the dash was a different light shaped like the outline of an engine.

    Throughout all of this the car was in normal use and was going great. Then the light(s) went out. Using the car meant that on some days you got a light or lights on the dash and some days you got no lights on the dash. I have not yet met, hired, or spoken to anyone who knows what or if anything is going wrong. I suspect it will be like my printer and I will get used to the warning lights since they are just broken sensors.

    So why did I uninstall the HP Help Assistant? Every time I turn on my computer I am presented with a blue icon and most days it has a yellow triangle denoting that something is wrong. I look at the reports and they contain brain ache. So far when I have pressed "Print" whenever I wanted to print something it has come out of the printer just as I wanted it to.

    So I have uninstalled the problem, and it is not my printer.
  9. Blood tests are incredibly important if a diabetic is to manage their condition. Knowledge of blood glucose levels throughout the day are a great guide as to what food and exercise should be taken.

    Some blood tests need another look at, though, in my opinion.

    There was a time when you could be diagnosed with diabetes after a fasting finger prick test at the surgery. If the result was over seven on two occasions then you were diabetic.

    This morning I got up at five o’clock. The first thing I did was to feed the cat. I have no choice but to do that since he learned his guerilla tactics from Garfield and I have to play the part of Bill Murray. Anyway, the next thing I did was to take a finger prick test. It was 6 which was a pleasant surprise and very interesting. Contrast this with the official version. I would fast from some time the previous evening, get up when the cat said and get on with stuff until the appointment which was at a time convenient to the surgery and could be, say, around 10 am.

    Since I was fasting I expect the body was living on liver dumps and I have no idea at what time they occurred. A liver dump is essentially the body feeding itself if I fail to do so and for practical purposes can be regarded as a meal. The term “Fasting Test” is meaningless since by 10 am I could, theoretically be within 10 minutes of a liver dump.

    Fasting finger prick tests can be interesting but the official one done hours after rising has got to be next to useless. They should be regarded as a random test with a qualification level of 11.

    Over time I have had various bits of advice about the Hba1c test. “It gives an average over the last three months”, was one bit of advice and “it has a bias towards the last month”, was another. Elsewhere I have written that both of these things cannot be true at the same time.

    Recently an OP on the site said that he had been given two Hba1c tests a month apart. The first one was 8 and the second 6 (I have left out the decimal points to protect the innocent). I wondered what average he spent the last month at in order to achieve this result.

    (average) 8+8+2 divided by 3 = 6. He/She would have had to average 2 for a month to get that result. Something is obviously wrong somewhere.

    What if only two months are involved?

    (average) 8+4 divided by 2 = 6. So He/She would have had to average 4 for a month. I don’t find this any more believable than the three month version.

    I am forced to the conclusion that the last month is not only significant but is the only month involved unless the OP was having continual hypos.

    A Play Wot I Rote

    DN: “Doctor, I have a wonderful new test that gives the result of sugar levels over the previous month”.

    Doctor: “Well don’t tell everyone nurse otherwise they’ll all want one every month”.

    DN: “Suppose I tell them it is an average of the past three months, they’ll never know the difference”.

    Doctor: ”Can you make it six?”

    DN: ”Let’s compromise. I’ll say three months and only test every six months”.

    Doctor: ”Good thinking nurse, I like your style”.
  10. I find I am getting annoyed by the existence of the traffic light labelling on food and particularly now that some councils are thinking of making it mandatory.

    There is nothing wrong with saying what percentage of everything there is in the food. That’s not the problem. The problem that I have with it is that someone (not me) is making decisions about what is bad for me. It’s the Poppins and McPhee colouring book.

    It is called Traffic Light labelling and so the colour red must mean stop but who is it that decides that more than 5g per 100g of saturates warrants a red?

    Likewise. who is it that decides that more than 1.5g of salt per 100g is bad when the fad of cutting down on salt has already got to ludicrous proportions with people getting cramps due to low electrolytes, passing out for the same reason and with the occasional death of people who were low on salt and had an enema. (This is why you are no longer welcomed to hospital with the traditional enema).

    The current recommendation of salt is up to 6g per day. Soldiers posted abroad are issued with salt tablets due to losing it through sweat. It is essential for life and the old research actually said that “excessive” salt was bad for you. It just didn’t mention that normal levels were necessary.

    The bit they seem to have got right is that over 15g per 100g of sugars is red. The use of the term “sugars” is a problem since it makes me wonder why they don’t give total carbohydrates and is the number of any use at all as a result. A quick check on a Hovis loaf at Tesco shows that it only has 1.7g or 2% of sugars on the traffic light label and 44.6g of carbohydrate on the other label so that suggests that the traffic light system has something missing.

    I also wondered if decisions on what colours to put where had anything to do with the eatwell plate or other advice from out of date dietitians and I find that if you want to know more about who is using the system then you are invited to go to eatwell.gov.uk/trafficlights which is a worry.
  11. What does Eat Healthily mean? I have seen many posts on the forum where the poster says they have been to see their GP who told them to eat healthily and exercise. Then, presumably, having given this sage advice they show them the door and wish them a nice day. The patient, having been to the blame factory, feels that they must have been doing it wrong.

    I suppose I was a little more fortunate than some since I was given two diet sheets. Both of them lists dozens of foods and they say I can eat some and not eat others. They are in my filing cabinet.

    I took them out of my filing cabinet once to look at them and found they were in conflict in one or two areas. I had the feeling that someone sat down one day and just made them up. I decided to compare them to see if I could make one useful document out of them and straight away I could see a problem.

    One of them was written by the British Hypertension Society and the other one looked like someone had rattled it off on a typewriter one day and it was called “A Diet to Lower Your Cholesterol”. Neither of them were anything to do with diabetes. I could not understand why I had been given them and I put them back in the filing cabinet.

    There has been a total lack of advice from the NHS as to what constitutes eating healthily for a diabetic.

    Worse still, I began to feel that members of the general public didn’t have any sort of a clue either. For example, there was a first time poster on the forum who said that he always ate healthily and he had had a pizza and cheesecake that evening. To him that was healthy eating, presumably because he liked it and it came in a box. A work colleague of mine would not eat anywhere except in a McDonalds. He said it was clean and healthy. Again, to him it was what he liked and therefore acceptable. I could easily conclude that everyone thinks they are eating healthily no matter what the food actually consisted of. I could extend that thought to most people don’t know what their food consists of.

    The people that have been through the diabetes life changing process seem to know what they are doing but that’s only about 200,000 people or so. There are over 3M type two diabetics so there are 2,800,000 people to go and that only leaves about 57M of the rest of the population. To be honest, the prospects do not look good. It seems there are tens of millions of people out there who are quite happy to eat badly and have no plans to do anything about it.

    I don’t think this problem is going to go away soon unless all the people who recommend healthy eating actually define it so that the information can be scrutinised. That should bring the pains on.
  12. I went to Tesco today as I do most Wednesdays. This is not a hard and fast rule but since Wednesday is wrinklies day in nearby B&Q it is sometimes convenient to do both. As usual I checked out the bargains in the end shelf of the meat section but they were a bit slow today and I only got a pair of lamb steaks from there. I made sure I was well catered for with chicken, lamb and beef from the normal shelf and went off to see what else I could find.

    Some time ago I thought I would widen the choice of low carb food that I could eat. All the joints of meat are lovely and the stir fries are really nice but I wanted a wider menu. The original recipe KFC proved to be very low carb, ooda thunk. Tinned corned beef and ham were very low and zero for some makes so that meant that some salads were going to be a better option than before. Things were looking up.

    It was quiet in Tesco today, mainly because some of the wrinklies seemed to have passed away in the act of getting something down from the shelf or studying the price labels. I pushed one of them out of the way and looked at some of the other tins to see what was on offer. I found a tin of beef and onion which says it is only 1.1gm/100gms which came as a surprise so I put it in my trolley. Next to it was a tin of chicken in wine also 1.1gm/100gms so I bought that too. Maybe I've been missing out here. I think a longer study of tins and what goes in them is in order. So the beef might be horse but at least it's low carb.

    If these tinned things prove to be OK then an added bonus is that you don't need to keep them in a freezer. You just have to find a shelf somewhere.

    A quick trip round the vegetable aisle and I was done.
  13. I have found something new to worry about and it’s buying food in supermarkets. I find that too many people can’t seem to do it. Personally I am comfortable in this since I have been cooking for myself and others for over 50 years and I have put the mileage in.

    Not far inside the door of my local supermarket they have a chilled deep tray which often has things for half price in it. One week legs of lamb, another gammon joints, cheese, sweets (the type you put custard on) or just pork joints. I often go straight to the tray to see what’s being sold.

    One day it was legs of lamb and I had a rummage and came up with one I liked (bigger). A young couple tried to warn me to be careful because the label was confusing and I might end up paying more than I thought I would. They pointed out that the price on the left was not what I would be charged. I said that the price on the right was the price I would be charged and I was quite prepared to pay it. I realised that they had been reading the price/Kg and expected to get a 2Kg item for the same price. When I replied they weren’t listening and looked scared. I think it was all too much for them.

    There were 2.2Kg gammon joints for £10 and someone tried to tell me that they were a very expensive item. I tried to tell them that over on the fresh meat aisle two slices of gammon could cost anything up to £5 and I could get lots of slices out of this joint after I slow cooked it. Again the blank stare with underlying fear in the face.

    There are shelves on the ends of the aisles where items are available that have been cost reduced, sometimes not by much. Being a cheapskate I always check the meat one out. One day I had to wait my turn since a couple were studying everything and complaining that there was nothing there that was cheap. I waited until they left and took the two black cardboard boxes each containing a choice cut of rump and each having £4 taken off. I very often get my sirloin from here and the other day I got a 650g rump steak. I couldn’t eat all of it at one sitting of course.

    One house guest likes the washed and packaged celery. I have not asked him why he doesn’t eat the type with dirt on like the rest of us. I reached up and got the washed stuff and put it in my trolley. Two young ladies behind me started a loud conversation about how that was a very expensive way to buy celery. They weren’t going to buy any so I guess I was supposed to overhear them. They went on about it and I took no notice so they had one more encore and gave up on the half witted wrinkley who pays over the odds for his veg. Such is life.

    I shall now go and cook and freeze some of my prizes and just hope the other shoppers never learn how to do it. I can’t take the competition.
  14. Yes they are too expensive but that is not the issue I wish to address here.

    Parking at my local hospital has been a problem in the past but not so much now. I can remember a day when I turned up for an appointment and couldn't find a car parking space. I had to retreat to the streets outside the hospital and park in the only place I could find. Being fit enough I was able to run back to the hospital to meet my appointment. Presumably a disabled person or an unfit person would not have done so.

    I have often driven round the perimeter track of that hospital and seen the cars on the grass and on the pavement which are the only places they can get after they have filled every car park and verge they can find. These are not patients or visitors since according to the rules we (the patients) are only allowed the bit of land where they charge a lot of money to park.

    I doubt these cars belong to long stay patients since they will have arrived by ambulance and taxi and will be picked up when they are better. Anyway, nothing in the hospital car park mentions what to do if you are a bedridden patient and have driven your self there

    So the remaining cars belong to patients with appointments who, due to appointment times , need to arrive and leave at odd times. Fat chance.

    Turn up for an appointment on some days and you will not get parked. The doctors will get parked, the nurses will get parked, The maintenance dogsbody will get parked (all day)

    The bottom line is that the only reason for having a hospital is for the patients and these are the only people who can't get parked due to the fact that they come and go all day and don't reserve "their" spot first thing.
  15. I took part in the thread and poll about sugar and should it be taxed. I kept having further thoughts and going back to it so it makes sense to write down some of my thoughts here where I can return and tinker if the mood takes me.

    I am not in favour of putting a tax on sugar and I will explain why in a moment but first I will list what is available to us to reduce the amount of sugar in food. We have legislation, taxation, education and persuasion.

    Legislation: This never seems to work well unless it can be enforced. Examples of changing the way people behave by legislation in the past include prohibition, mobile phones in cars, speeding. Only when the law can be enforced does it seem to work. Seat belts worked because the police could clearly see when they were not being worn.

    Taxation: Examples are huge taxes on cigarettes, alcohol and petrol. These have not been totally successful in changing human behaviour but it does raise a lot of revenue.

    Education: People worry about their health despite what the HCP’s say. Half an acre of healthcare products in Tesco and Holland and Barratt cannot be wrong. If people knew what carbohydrates could do to them then they would demand more information. I say carbohydrates and not sugar since if the subject is education then people should be told that starch is also a sugar and your body will treat it as such.

    Persuasion: Jamie put a spoon symbol on some drinks and said how many spoonfuls of sugar is in each drink. He handed these out to a Commons committee and frightened them I hear.

    I am only aware of Jamie condemning school children to tuna salads before this but he has come up with a good idea in my opinion. Spoonfuls of sugar on the packet might work as well as writing low fat on it. For some reason people went overboard for that even though it was based on incorrect information.
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