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What's the deal with lamb doner?

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Finzi

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I know it's a bit gross lol but for lunch that I had no option other than kebab house. They did an option of tray of lamb doner meat with salad. I thought this would be great. Meat and salad (and, shoot me, but I actually quite like lamb doner). BG before, 5.6. BG 2 hours later, 7.2! That's really high for me. BG 3 hours later, still 7.2! BG 4 hours later, back to 5.6 (phew!).

So I was thinking, what could have caused a spike like that? An I wondered, cos the meat is very processed, do they put some sort of cereal filler in, maybe? The Carbs&Cals app count for lamb doner kebab is really high, but I assumed that was from the pitta bread. To be honest, if lamb doner meat IS high in carbs, I'm quite pleased it only spiked me to 7.2. I'm an ultra-low carver (well, not today, clearly lol) so my digestive system hasn't really been put to the test - maybe my insulin resistance is improving. (I'm a type 2 on metformin btw)
 
I never thought about that before but it is obvious that lambs don't grow that shape naturally. I know that with some other processed meats it is mechanically recovered or ground up and mixed with flour to glue it back together so you get a sort of cake.

Maybe this is how they do the kebab meat also. The flour would explain your high (ish) readings.
 
Wow, that link was really useful, Catherine! Well, wouldn't you know. Rusk. No wonder I got a 7.2 for 3 hours.

The fat doesn't totally totally bother me, because I am not eating a low fat diet. However, the fact that it is unhealthy fat is is more disturbing, I've tried to keep all my fat intake natural and healthy. Interestingly, though, I ate it at 1pm and it is now nearly 8pm and I am not even the tiniest bit hungry. So I guess the thing about fats filling you up is true. But at a heavy price. I won't be eating it again :(

I'm still not ruling out chicken shish or lamb shish (which is the grilled skewered cubes of meat). I will try that another day and test. This kebab house didn't do anything as healthy as that - it was strictly heart attack on a plate all the way! (They were very friendly though!)


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know that with some other processed meats it is mechanically recovered or ground up and mixed with flour to glue it back together so you get a sort of cake.
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You're probably thinking of "meat glue" (an enzyme).

I am not quite sure why you are surprised though as there are plenty of people here having to take insulin for protein
 
AMBrennan said:
know that with some other processed meats it is mechanically recovered or ground up and mixed with flour to glue it back together so you get a sort of cake.
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You're probably thinking of "meat glue" (an enzyme).

I am not quite sure why you are surprised though as there are plenty of people here having to take insulin for protein
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Good point. I always tend to think of protein as "guilt free" but I suppose it isn't (don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that eating protein is bad, just that I never really factor it in as a BG raiser. I suppose I really should , it explains a couple of other anomalous readings lately. Still, better than carbs, eh? It was really quite a large portion as well. Couldn't weigh it of course, but I was really really stuffed, haven't eaten anything since and it was over eight hours ago.


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If you want to know the carb content of your kebab, you'll need to ask the people who made it what the ingredients are.
Hana
 
May i suggest a tasty alternative.?
Falafel, pitta, salad chilli sauce works.
You can buy it in packet form from asda for under a quid and you simply add water, wait 5 mins, shape into balls or patties then fry.
I shallow fry mine in a cold pressed rapeseed oil.
Then i cane it all in tobasco!

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AMBrennan said:
You're probably thinking of "meat glue" (an enzyme).
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I can't say that I was. I was thinking more about another two things. One is that an ingredient of the kebab lamb is rusk which is a rebaked unleavened bread which is a flour product.

I was led on to that thought by a statement on the site weightlossresorces.com which says.

"Foods only appear on the GI index if they contain carbohydrate. This explains why you won't find foods like fresh meat, chicken, fish, eggs and cheese in GI lists. However, you may find some processed foods like sausages or chicken nuggets in a GI list because they contain flour!"

So I now think of the kebab meat as one big sausage. An oversimplification I know but then that's the way I am.
 
Finzi said:
Falafel? Is that low carb? I've been avoiding it - I love falafel! (Off to investigate....)


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You're right,

Some can be a little too high on the carb front,

But if that's a problem I've got an alternative that's cabout 2 carbs per ball:

1/4 t. garlic powder
1/2 t. onion powder
2 t. parsley, dried
1/4 t. coriander powder
1/4 t. cumin
5.4 oz (153 g.) of riced cauliflower
100 g chickpeas

Throw some tahini on it it works nicely, i also substitute the riced cauliflower for soya flour or brown rice flour personally.

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Very tasty but the content has just got to be in question, especially now after the horse meat scandal, if you cant know what is in a major supermarkets lasagne and cottage pies then some dodgy backstreet reheated doner kebab is not going to be any less contaminated is it?

That said I am not aware of anyone who has been ill after eating one but I think I will stick with home cooked food where ever possible, then unless I upset the wife I can be pretty sure of what I am eating :lol:
 
Its hard. Last night i had a lovely crantock steak and stilton pasty then a snickers, bloods after that were 6.8 after an hour.

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''What's the deal with lamb doner''.............well they not be a lot of lamb in a lamb doner according to part of the article Catherinecherub posted:

'Perhaps we can’t even take solace in the FSA’s comments. According to a sampling programme carried out by the Lincolnshire Government in 2002, of eight kebabs tested three were “unsatisfactory” in that they contained meats other than lamb. One only contained 1% of sheep meat! Perhaps these are rare cases but even if you accept the fact that the doner meat only contains lamb there’s no assurance as to how much of it is offal or fat.'


Don't mind admitting I've scoffed a few in my younger days but now just see them as a heart attack waiting to happen.
 
I'm partial to a haggis.
You can get vegetarian options now too, and take the local favourite bury black pudding, veggie options for that substitute the pig blood for beetroot.

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Sid Bonkers said:
Very tasty but the content has just got to be in question, especially now after the horse meat scandal, if you cant know what is in a major supermarkets lasagne and cottage pies then some dodgy backstreet reheated doner kebab is not going to be any less contaminated is it?

That said I am not aware of anyone who has been ill after eating one but I think I will stick with home cooked food where ever possible, then unless I upset the wife I can be pretty sure of what I am eating :lol:
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You're quite right Sid! It was a one-off, honest! Trouble is, I wasn't at home. I was 30 miles away, on a freezing windswept street in a to-be-nameless midlands town, with kebab shops, pound shops and not much else. With 25 mins to get some lunch. I did have horsemeat on my mind, definitely!


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I ordered a tandoori mixed grill, no naan, no rice tonight. It came okay but amongst a huge and I mean huge bed of kebab meat. :D
 
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hanadr said:
If you want to know the carb content of your kebab, you'll need to ask the people who made it what the ingredients are.
Hana
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They always remind me of elephant legs when I see them in the shop window.......although I would think that the shish/kofte skewers with salad would actually be a healthy option.

Incidentally healthwise hat's the matter with horsemen or offal...........if you forget the ethics of it?
 
Traceymac23 said:
They always remind me of elephant legs when I see them in the shop window.......although I would think that the shish/kofte skewers with salad would actually be a healthy option.

Incidentally healthwise hat's the matter with horsemen or offal...........if you forget the ethics of it?
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I can there might be ethics involved with eating horsemen but what is unethical about eating offal?
 
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