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babsy2

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Their are many people who give you advice when your first diagnosed and within a short space of time your GP DN Dietician Podiatrist Diabetic Retinopathy and this Forum all giving you advice I wonder how many people got overwhelmed by this and their possibly isn't another way round this but I'd be interested in people's views I can't think of a better way
 
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4ratbags

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Of course its all very overwhelming, for a lot of people it means a complete diet and lifestyle overhaul and there is so much conflicting advice from the professionals. Its all a steep learning curve and a very confusing one at that. I only wish I had found this site sooner as it has all the information you need all in one place.
 
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If a person is wounded or sick they pay very close attention to what is going to help them. If the advice is contradictory then it adds a lot of pressure to the process. Looking back I am now aware that I got a lot of sound advice from several thousand people who have the same problem I have. I did not receive such good advice from the organisation that are paid to give out standard advice decided by a committee that cannot change their minds if they wanted to for fear of being sued.

My DN is a lovely person but she is not allowed to tell me to reduce carbs etc. She is paid to hand out leaflets and pills.
 
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It's good to get advice, but at times you have to take it with a pinch of salt as everyone may have the best of intentions, but they're not always right with the advice they give. When I was diagnosed I didn't have anyone I knew that had diabetes (other than a great aunt who I barely see) and there was no online forums like this where I could get support. So pretty much I followed the advice of my health professionals. I've been diagnosed with other stuff in recent years and it has made a difference for me to have online support for those things (well for some, not all). But even if I can't find online support groups for what I have, I can at least find information online about the condition and how it is treated which helps me when speaking with my doctors. I remember too well though about being overwhelmed when first diagnosed with diabetes. To be honest that overwhelming feeling happens every time you get diagnosed with something new (given some are fortunate to not have further health issues diagnosed which is good). It is just a case of how you handle what you're hearing and you do what you need to do to manage. I wish you the best. :)
 
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ickihun

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This is when I appreciate the www at it's best.
Thank god for technology. It's saving lives!
But most importantly - the people who interact on here.
I don't think I can say it enough.
Thankyou forum posters! :) :) :)
 
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Daibell

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When I was diagnosed I received little or poor advice from my diabetes GP(s). The DNs were a little better but weren't not very knowledgeable. The WWW was my salvation and in later years this site. Were else could I have found out about T1.5 and the relevant tests. As a nerdy engineer I can never have too much information.
 
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Hi @babsy2 I think probably most of us need time to become used to the idea of having diabetes, it's very common to feel confused. Have you read the information that @daisy1 provides? It's good practical stuff and my advice would be just to concentrate on that at first, then when you're feeling ready to learn more you can do so at your own pace. Things do get better-honestly! I've had type 2 for 10 yrs and lead a full, active life, we don't need to let the diabetes define who we are. Good luck
 
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It is overwhelming when you are first told you are diabetic. I guess I was lucky that I got a place on a DESMOND course within a week, which helped me come to terms with it.
Although I now know that the diet advice given by the DESMOND course is not good, the DN did suggest looking at this forum, so perhaps she was hinting that there was an alternative view to the official NHS line.
 
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daisy1

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@babsy2

Hello and welcome to the forum :) I hope this isn't too much information but it is a good idea (recommended by a member above) that you read it and it will help you. Many members have found it helpful. This is the information we give to new members. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to answer.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

babsy2

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Ok thankyou
 
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