triple zero stevia

YasminManjoo

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I have heard of triple zero stevia recently. Have anyone of you tried it?
I am newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I feel lost. I do not know how to count the carbs intake.:(
 

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Hi @YasminManjoo and welcome to the forum. I haven't heard of triple zero stevia.
As for feeling lost, it is difficult to get your head round everything when you are first diagnosed but there is a lot of good advice and support on here. I don't count carbs. I control my diabetes (and weight) by a Low Carbohydrate High Fat approach and exercise. I limit carbs as much as possible, when I do eat carbs I only have a portion no bigger than my fist - which is what the NHS recommends.
 

YasminManjoo

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Hi @YasminManjoo and welcome to the forum. I haven't heard of triple zero stevia.
As for feeling lost, it is difficult to get your head round everything when you are first diagnosed but there is a lot of good advice and support on here. I don't count carbs. I control my diabetes (and weight) by a Low Carbohydrate High Fat approach and exercise. I limit carbs as much as possible, when I do eat carbs I only have a portion no bigger than my fist - which is what the NHS recommends.
Thank you so much....I think it will take some time for me to get used to this new condition. But I know for sure that I will get all the support from this forum.:)
 
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I will tag @daisy1 as there is alot of great information on her welcome post that you may find useful. It took me a year to sort my diet out completely so dont despair it can take time to get your head around everything.
 

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YasminManjoo

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I will tag @daisy1 as there is alot of great information on her welcome post that you may find useful. It took me a year to sort my diet out completely so dont despair it can take time to get your head around everything.
Thank you so much for your support. I am trying to sort out what to eat and what not to. Its hard.:banghead:
 

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I have heard of triple zero stevia recently. Have anyone of you tried it?
I am newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I feel lost. I do not know how to count the carbs intake.:(
Both stevia and erythritol are sugar alternatives which are good for us diabetics as they don't raise our blood glucose levels.

Any foods that are very starchy or sugary are full of cargbohdrates which will raise our glucose levelos, sometimes a great deal. So the "trick" is to learn which these are and either limit your portion of them or avoid them altogether. You could do as I did when I was first diagnosed and and try to avoid all very sugary foods, sweets, jam, cakes, biscuits, and so on, and all high starch food such as potatoes, bread, cereals and other grains, pastry, pasta, rice. Eat instead plenty of meat, oily fish, chicken, eggs, cheese, cream, butter, yoghurt, nuts, both whole and in the form of flour, oils, butters and milk, olives and olive oil, avocados, salads, green vegetables, and fruit in the form of low carb berries. The extra oils and fats in this list will replace the energy your body needs and which will have been previously obtained from the (potentially) damaging high carbohydrate food.

Also have a look at the information at the start of our Low Carb Diet section of the forum, in addition to what @daisy1 will post here for you.

Goofd luck!

Robbity
 

YasminManjoo

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Both stevia and erythritol are sugar alternatives which are good for us diabetics as they don't raise our blood glucose levels.

Any foods that are very starchy or sugary are full of cargbohdrates which will raise our glucose levelos, sometimes a great deal. So the "trick" is to learn which these are and either limit your portion of them or avoid them altogether. You could do as I did when I was first diagnosed and and try to avoid all very sugary foods, sweets, jam, cakes, biscuits, and so on, and all high starch food such as potatoes, bread, cereals and other grains, pastry, pasta, rice. Eat instead plenty of meat, oily fish, chicken, eggs, cheese, cream, butter, yoghurt, nuts, both whole and in the form of flour, oils, butters and milk, olives and olive oil, avocados, salads, green vegetables, and fruit in the form of low carb berries. The extra oils and fats in this list will replace the energy your body needs and which will have been previously obtained from the (potentially) damaging high carbohydrate food.

Also have a look at the information at the start of our Low Carb Diet section of the forum, in addition to what @daisy1 will post here for you.

Goofd luck!

Robbity
Thank you very much for sharing all these useful information. I have cut down on all sugary food and I now eat brown bread and brown rice........I do not know if I am on the right path..... There is still a lot to learn.......:depressed:
 
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@YasminManjoo

Hello Yasmin and welcome to the forum :) As mentioned above, here is the information we give to new members which I hope you will find useful. To help control your levels, reduce the carbohydrates in your diet. You can increase the fat so you are not hungry. Have a look at the Low Carb Program, linked below.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

HoneyPot2

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I have used Triple Zero Stevia for the last 6 mths and believe it to be an excellent sugar substitute with negligible taste difference.

I have used it in coffee, on porridge, in cooking generally and in making a chocolate cheese cake for Christmas treat (see the ref. to Aldi below).

The most economic way to purchase it is in larger quantities and I have very successfully bought it in 500g packs on line via Amazon (See the link below) The delivery service has been first class and I would not hesitate to recommend them as your 'go to' source. Although the packaging is uncompromisingly plain, who wants to pay extra for packaging that in a supemarket is designed to stand out on a shelf for consumer attention. Opstevia's packaging is ideal for the riguours of the postal system.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Triple-Eryt...1452686815&sr=8-1&keywords=Triple+zero+Stevia

The stevia dissolves readily in liquids

You can also get Stevia tabs and stevia chocolate bars (also used as substitute for cocoa in aforementioned choc cheese cake) at larger Aldi stores.
 
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YasminManjoo

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@YasminManjoo

Hello Yasmin and welcome to the forum :) As mentioned above, here is the information we give to new members which I hope you will find useful. To help control your levels, reduce the carbohydrates in your diet. You can increase the fat so you are not hungry. Have a look at the Low Carb Program, linked below.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Thank you for your warm welcome and support. The sad thing about being diagnosed with diabetes, is that we do not get enough advice or guidance right from the start. Its only when I join the forum that I really felt I got all the support I need. Thank you to all who take the time to share their experience and knowledge.really appreciated:)
 

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When I was first diagnosed I felt I had little help, guidance , some 14 years ago, I lasted until recently being diet controlled. The what to eat and what to do on this site helps a lot. Originally I saw a dietician but glad I did not totally take their advice as too many carbs & fruit juice were included. For a number of weeks I tested my blood sugar pre & 2hrs after meals as well as pre bed & first thing in morning. I noted everything I eat so I was able to see what was good & what was bad for me, people are different. I try for no Carbs for breakfast, but perhaps oat cereal or porridge (low GI) sometimes as I found out any Carbs in the morning sends my blood sugar high. Good luck, lots of support on this site, I still hope I can get of the meds I have been put on last few months.
 
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YasminManjoo

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When I was first diagnosed I felt I had little help, guidance , some 14 years ago, I lasted until recently being diet controlled. The what to eat and what to do on this site helps a lot. Originally I saw a dietician but glad I did not totally take their advice as too many carbs & fruit juice were included. For a number of weeks I tested my blood sugar pre & 2hrs after meals as well as pre bed & first thing in morning. I noted everything I eat so I was able to see what was good & what was bad for me, people are different. I try for no Carbs for breakfast, but perhaps oat cereal or porridge (low GI) sometimes as I found out any Carbs in the morning sends my blood sugar high. Good luck, lots of support on this site, I still hope I can get of the meds I have been put on last few months.
Thank you for sharing your experience. You look like a pro:). I'm still confused about what to eat and what not too. I know it will take some time. All the best.xxx
 

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I was diagnosed nearly 2 weeks ago, so i'm also new to this. At first you think you can't eat anything but it's amazing what recipes you can find online. I even invented a cake that not only tastes amazing, it has absolutely no effect on my blood sugars.
 
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YasminManjoo

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I was diagnosed nearly 2 weeks ago, so i'm also new to this. At first you think you can't eat anything but it's amazing what recipes you can find online. I even invented a cake that not only tastes amazing, it has absolutely no effect on my blood sugars.
Hi MarkyP123.Welcome to the forum. :). Yes we all get the same feeling in the beginning....but slowly we learn new ways , new habits of eating. I get lots of ideas and support on this forum. I haven't made any cake so far. It would be great if you could share your recipe sometimes. Cheers:happy:
 
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