Type 1 diagnosed last Wednesday

monty1878

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Hi everyone, was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes last Wednesday, spent two days in hospital due to it. Have got my bloods down to between 5-7 since I've been out and reduced my insulin on nurse advice. Is this a normal?

My eyes have felt a bit funny over the last two days as well, I'm hoping this is linked to the changes my body is coping with over the last 7 days.

It's been a big shock to the system and trying to stay postive has been difficult especially around my two kids.
 

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Pretty impressive that you've already got your blood sugar down that low. It took me 2 weeks before I had my first reading under 11.

Oddly enough, getting your blood sugar down that low and that quick can make you feel pretty awful. That was part of the reason why my doctors had me reduce mine slowly. You may get "false hypos" which is your body's reaction to thinking your blood sugar is dangerously low (even when it's not). Eventually (usually within a few days) that should go away.

Glad to hear you're staying positive and there's no need not to be. Yes, it sucks, yes, it's a big change, but it doesn't have to run your life.
 
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monty1878

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Pretty impressive that you've already got your blood sugar down that low. It took me 2 weeks before I had my first reading under 11.

Oddly enough, getting your blood sugar down that low and that quick can make you feel pretty awful. That was part of the reason why my doctors had me reduce mine slowly. You may get "false hypos" which is your body's reaction to thinking your blood sugar is dangerously low (even when it's not). Eventually (usually within a few days) that should go away.

Glad to hear you're staying positive and there's no need not to be. Yes, it sucks, yes, it's a big change, but it doesn't have to run your life.
A couple of readings have been down to 4.4 and I have started to feel funny I am guessing these would be false hypos????
 

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A couple of readings have been down to 4.4 and I have started to feel funny I am guessing these would be false hypos????
It's very possible.

Our bodies exhibit certain symptoms to protect us from low blood sugar. Unfortunately, those symptoms seem to be triggered by a sharp decrease in blood sugar levels rather than low levels themselves.

That means if your body has gotten used to abnormally high levels and you quickly reduce them down to normal levels it may induce these symptoms. In short, if your body has been used to 15-20 mmol/l levels for several months and you suddenly reduce them down to 7, you could feel pretty bad.

Everyone exhibits different symptoms when going through a hypo. For me, the best way to explain it is kind of how I'd imagine a drug addict feels when they're going through withdrawals: cold sweats, need for my "fix" (which in this case is carbohydrates), loss of coordination, feeling jittery, mean, and short-tempered.
 

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Hi everyone, was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes last Wednesday, spent two days in hospital due to it. Have got my bloods down to between 5-7 since I've been out and reduced my insulin on nurse advice. Is this a normal?

My eyes have felt a bit funny over the last two days as well, I'm hoping this is linked to the changes my body is coping with over the last 7 days.

It's been a big shock to the system and trying to stay postive has been difficult especially around my two kids.

Yes it's quite normal to see a reduction in insulin usage once you start on insulin, have a look on Google for the Honeymoon Period.

When bg levels are high it effects the lens in the eyes, so it may take a week or two for your eyes to settle down.

Torq's mentioning of False Hypo's is relevant to how you are feeling now your bg levels are under control, just be sure to monitor your bg levels regularly in case you do go hypo.

Your doing great btw :)
 

monty1878

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Yes it's quite normal to see a reduction in insulin usage once you start on insulin, have a look on Google for the Honeymoon Period.

When bg levels are high it effects the lens in the eyes, so it may take a week or two for your eyes to settle down.

Torq's mentioning of False Hypo's is relevant to how you are feeling now your bg levels are under control, just be sure to monitor your bg levels regularly in case you do go hypo.

Your doing great btw :)
Thanks at the minute I am checking my bloods every two hours, trying to get a handle on what things I can and cannot eat. Had a bowl of cornflakes at the weekend and they rocketed my bloods so had to go out for a walk to bring them down
 

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Thanks at the minute I am checking my bloods every two hours, trying to get a handle on what things I can and cannot eat. Had a bowl of cornflakes at the weekend and they rocketed my bloods so had to go out for a walk to bring them down


Walking is good, I walk for at least an hour a day and much more on a weekend.

I don't mind Cornflakes but haven't had them in years, I eat traditional porridge most morning and add some seeds (linseeds, pumpkin & sunflower) to the mix as well as a small handful of blueberries and Greek Yogurt, it doesn't spike my bg badly provided I bolus ahead of my meal, plus it's very filling and keeps me full until lunch, however some type 1's do find that porridge spikes them so it's a case of experimenting and seeing what results you get.
 

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Hi monty1878 - Welcome to the Forum. Will tag @daisy1 who will provide you with some basic information.:)
 

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Thanks at the minute I am checking my bloods every two hours, trying to get a handle on what things I can and cannot eat. Had a bowl of cornflakes at the weekend and they rocketed my bloods so had to go out for a walk to bring them down

Cornflakes can put my blood sugar up quickly too. I tend to choose other cereals if I can, or just have a small bowl or mix them with bran cereal or similar.

Do you count carbs?

And welcome :) It sounds like you've got off to a great start :cool:
 

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@monty1878

Hello Monty and welcome to the forum:) It sounds like you are doing really well already. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find this useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

monty1878

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Cornflakes can put my blood sugar up quickly too. I tend to choose other cereals if I can, or just have a small bowl or mix them with bran cereal or similar.

Do you count carbs?

And welcome :) It sounds like you've got off to a great start :cool:
No I havent counted carbs yet, not really sure how to do it. I've just been reading the labels and if it has a high carb count avoided eating it. I'm struggling with breakfast and supper though, I don't really want to eat wholemeal toast email every time
 

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No I havent counted carbs yet, not really sure how to do it. I've just been reading the labels and if it has a high carb count avoided eating it. I'm struggling with breakfast and supper though, I don't really want to eat wholemeal toast email every time

Carb counting allows you to 'match' your insulin to your food, and makes it easier to keep your blood sugar in normal range.you could speak to your team about it. It used to be taught on diagnosis (basic carb counting isn't hard) but isn't any more.

You could keep records of your meals and your insulin doses and discuss those results with your team. That would give you an idea of whether your insulin dose is appropriate for your favourite meals.

There are online carb counting courses like:

http://www.bdec-e-learning.com

Eventually you should learn your insulin to carb ratio(s) with the help of your team. This will allow you to be more flexible about what you eat. Basically, you count the carbs in your meal, apply your ratio, and that tells you how much insulin you should need for that meal. Everyone's ratios are different.

Dont be afraid to question your team and to push for the advice you need. If you haven't already seen a dietician you could ask to see one.
 
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Matthew-G-Bell

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Hi everyone, was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes last Wednesday, spent two days in hospital due to it. Have got my bloods down to between 5-7 since I've been out and reduced my insulin on nurse advice. Is this a normal?

My eyes have felt a bit funny over the last two days as well, I'm hoping this is linked to the changes my body is coping with over the last 7 days.

It's been a big shock to the system and trying to stay postive has been difficult especially around my two kids.
5-7 in a mere few days? You must be a wizard! Glad to hear!

The eyes feeling funny happened to me too at first, stopped after a few days. It is likely to due with the body getting used to changes. I had insomnia for several weeks after being diagnosed, but then it eventually went away.

Keep up the good work, and welcome to the forum!
 

monty1878

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Checking my blood tonight 2hrs after evening meal they had dropped to 3.8 - had chicken and rice for tea. Is the drop caused by to much insulin and not enough carbs?
 

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Hi everyone, was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes last Wednesday, spent two days in hospital due to it. Have got my bloods down to between 5-7 since I've been out and reduced my insulin on nurse advice. Is this a normal?

My eyes have felt a bit funny over the last two days as well, I'm hoping this is linked to the changes my body is coping with over the last 7 days.

It's been a big shock to the system and trying to stay postive has been difficult especially around my two kids.
 

Lizzyads

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My son was recently diagnosed type one he's 14 he struggled with his eyes for a few weeks, his nurse said this was normal with the changes... Few weeks later all fine back to normal! Hope this helps
 
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