Donnadoobie
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- Type of diabetes
- Prediabetes
- Treatment type
- Diet only
hi , what r u eating ? Please share your diet.I invented my own diet, then got some help from here. I seem to be cured. All test say I am not diabetic any more
I'm not sure though, but HbA1cis 36
My understanding, from reading articles when 5:2 was first publicised, is that before attempting 5:2 Michael Mosley had a few high fasting results that his GP was keeping an eye on and then had a fasting result of 7.0 or 7.1, I can't remember which, and his GP was about to put him into medication. 5:2 brought his levels down and the HIT even more so.
I have been 5:2ing off and on for about 4 years and when on it, it works, my problem is that I stopped when my Mum died and sugar shot up, tipping into diabetic levels with an Hba1c of 49. With 5:2 alone this did drop to 46 in 3 weeks but it did get to the point where this was not enough and low carbing reduced it to 43 in October.
I have nothing to lose by giving this a go. I am on day 17 and going well. Fasting levels this week are lower than last week (5.5, 5.6, 5.6) and hopefully will be lower next week. Also my 7 day averages were 6.2 week 1, 6.1 week 2 and so far this week 5.9. I have lost 5.25 lbs giving me a total loss of 36.25lbs since starting 5:2 12 months ago.
If it doesn't work, then I know I have given it my best shot.
But try being really lean (and with a bmi of 19, 21 - that is really lean!) on 90% carbs - wo ho! Impossible, I would say.
After I did the Newcastle Diet with real food for two months I had to carry a cushion around so I could sit on hard chairs comfortably - and I had a bmi at that point of 22. And I cannot imagine getting even leaner and then sustaining that indefinitely! I couldn't, and I didn't. And I did not become non-diabetic, but in the prediabetic range. The same range I am in now low-carbing - but with a bmi of 24 (ish). And look - no cushion! Yay!
Telling folk to lose a lot of weight and get really lean, and then STAY really lean for the rest of their lives is easier said than done! If I was like Samantha in 'Bewitched' I would wiggle my nose and be skinny and non-diabetic - now that I would like! But going hungry to stay lean for.... ever! That is no nose wiggle....
I am a "thin" T2 and my BMI is 17.4. I lost one and three quarter stones when I cut out carbs after diagnosis, going from 8 and 3/4 stones to 7 stone. I have never been fat in my adult life, tubby in my pre and early teens but never since then. I can keep my glucose normalish by not eating any carbs (or virtually none) but if I eat any carbs it goes up. I had a liver and pancreas scan (just routine hospital one) and was told I don't have a fatty liver or pancreas and (virtually) no fat at all on my abdomen so not sure if I will be able to reverse my diabetes but I am sick of not being able to eat so many things. I am reading Dr Masleys book in the Daily Mail, might buy the book, to see if there is anything that might help me. I really don't have any weight to lose; well, maybe a very little, or I will be losing muscle and not fat!
hi , what r u eating ? Please share your diet.
Trust me, the current NHS isn't fit for purpose, in my view, but nor is making absolute statements about cure/reversal/remission. I think it would be useful for patients to understand the treatment options available to them, thereby allowing them informed choice.
A couple of months ago, I was speaking to a Consultant Endocrinologist, specialising in Diabetes and asked him if he had ever considered running an almost mirror programme to Professor Taylor's, thus offering willing participants the option to explore how far they could retrace their steps to diagnosis. His response was that people wouldn't want to do that. Lovely man, but I still wanted to throttle him.
hi , what r u eating ? Please share your diet.
How long had you been a diabetic before you started the Newcastle DIet?
I really agree with your statement. I run the local Fibromyalgia Group with around 80 members, the vast majority of very overweight and suffer with terrible symptoms. However, only a tiny minority are prepared to do anything to help themselves let alone change the way the eat which I am positive will lead them to an early death.The massive majority of T2s do not have the interest or conscious control (as opposed to managing control, based purely on NHS advice and meds). We, here, are the oddities.
Does not seem to be a problem. Things are working OKI'm a newbie to the forum. I wondered if those folks following the Michael Moseley 8 week diabetes reversal diet had encountered any problems with lack of fibre etc? I want to try the diet but I'm loathe to cut out all bread and cereals as I derive much of my fibre from bran and wholemeal bread. I don't want to end up with constipation etc.
I would love to hear all about it if you go @AloeSvea Im sure you would give him a run for his money.