Diabetic - difficult to find a job??

Mr. OGU

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Hi,

I am type diabetic. I am looking for a job. but on the face to face interviews I got refused because "I look sleepy / or bored".
Should I tell them that I have diabetes??
Any ideas where to get a job??
 

Liam1955

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@Mr. OGU - Hello and Welcome to the Forum:). Personally I would tell any new employer that I have Diabetes. I will tag @daisy1 who will provide you with some basic information that all newbies receive. Have a read of it and ask any questions you may have? Someone will answer.:)
 

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Hi,

I am type diabetic. I am looking for a job. but on the face to face interviews I got refused because "I look sleepy / or bored".
Should I tell them that I have diabetes??
Any ideas where to get a job??

Do you have any ideas why you have that sleepy/bored look? Is your diabetes well controlled? I gather high numbers can make one sleepy as well as other things.

That is what needs to be addressed. They're no more likely to be sympathetic to you if you tell them you have diabetes. If they're already "not feeling the luuuurve", you're just giving them another reason to doubt your ability to do the job they have on offer.

Clearly, as a T1, it would be sensible to disclose it at some stage, so that your colleagues would not be alarmed should certain things occur during your working day, but unless you are going for jobs like HGV driver, bus driver or another of those jobs where it would really matter ( or might be impossible), I can see no benefit to disclosing it at an early stage.
 

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Hi and welcome Mr.OGU. You only have to disclose a disability when a job offer is made or so I believe to do so prior to that would only serve to possibly prejudice a prospective employer against your application an exception to this may be where the employer has stated that they are disability friendly.

Could you not discuss this with your GP or diabetic team they may have a solution for what is making you feel sleepy or looking bored something that may improve your energy or how you feel.
 
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why can't everyone get on........
hi there
welcome to the forum.

sorry to sound a bit harsh with this answer but.................I have been Diabetic for 43 years and if you had showed up for interview looking sleepy / or bored I wouldn't have given you a job either

although if you looked poorly i would have asked you if something was wrong,

priority 1 is get in control for doing interviews.

I took great pride in being diabetic and not being off work for sickness ( D or non D)
my best record on this was 8 years without a day off sick.

ok -- sorry for the bit of a rant -- what can we do here to help you get into prime shape for securing the job of your dreams ??
 
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Mr. OGU

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hi there
welcome to the forum.

sorry to sound a bit harsh with this answer but.................I have been Diabetic for 43 years and if you had showed up for interview looking sleepy / or bored I wouldn't have given you a job either

although if you looked poorly i would have asked you if something was wrong,

priority 1 is get in control for doing interviews.

I took great pride in being diabetic and not being off work for sickness ( D or non D)
my best record on this was 8 years without a day off sick.

ok -- sorry for the bit of a rant -- what can we do here to help you get into prime shape for securing the job of your dreams ??
Thank you, if i am honest my sugar level is poorly controlled and especially in stress situations. It is too low or to high but i prefer to inject less and thats makes me looking bored :(
 
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himtoo

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hi there @Mr. OGU
bless you -- cant believe you liked my post when i was giving you a hard time.

let's start at the beginning -- give us a background on yourself.

when diagnosed , what insulin regime , etc etc.

the answer may lie in your BG numbers
 
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himtoo

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i will admit to everyone now i have shed a few tears reading @Mr. OGU 's response to me
he is demonstrating the total honesty that will stand him in good stead to taking better control -- well done you sir !!
 
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Always remember the old saying, you only get one opportunity to make a first impression.

People actually make up their minds about you in a very short space of time, (less than a minute). And if it's a negative view then the rest of the interview is pretty much a waste of time.

If you're asked about medical conditions then you should disclose it.
 

IZ THE LEG END

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Thank you, if i am honest my sugar level is poorly controlled and especially in stress situations. It is too low or to high but i prefer to inject less and thats makes me looking bored :(

I was diagnosed last May, initially controlled by oral meds, I never noticed any issues until I went away in November last year when I was "loosing my rag" tired and just generally struggling to carry out my tasks.-

I work remotely around the world at short notice... I meet customers on site to provide technical assistance with their equipment when their engineers cannot progress it.

Every time I go to a new rig, I meet with some very high profile client representatives to discuss my role and things about the job they expect the best my company charge $3K a day to them for me attending their site so you can imagine how picky they can be...

I returned from my trip in November knowing my performance was bad my BG were all over the place.

I used information from this site and some great info from members on here and my medical team and have changed to a mix of insulin and oral meds.

My BG is much better it's not perfect by any means I'm still working on that but after these changes and controlling my BG better I went away for a month again over new year!!! And I felt absolutely brand new! I never lost my temper I wasn't tired, and I felt like the old me

So I agree with the above with respect to BG levels probably being at the cause of your issues...

Good luck and I hope it all comes good for you in the near future just don't give up!
 
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Mr. OGU

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hi there @Mr. OGU
bless you -- cant believe you liked my post when i was giving you a hard time.

let's start at the beginning -- give us a background on yourself.

when diagnosed , what insulin regime , etc etc.

the answer may lie in your BG numbers
Diagnosed in 2008. and started with Humolog 100 units and lantus 20 units a day (BG 9-12). was well controlled. but later in stress situations as explained it goes up to 20BG. my GP told me i should inject more and then my BG slides to 3. i tried with exercises and diets to controll it but no results.
 

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i am wondering first if you have the correct diagnosis ( or if you are not sure)
type 1's should be on a basal / bolus routine -- this has been recommended in latest NICE guidelines.

one of the first things to do to find out if your basal ( lantus )dose is correct is this -- basal testing
link here -- http://www.salforddiabetescare.co.uk/index2.php?nav_id=1007

have a look at this first
 

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why can't everyone get on........
i better add this as well -- you should have a DSN ( diabetic specialist nurse ) to help with the day to day monitoring and changes needed to assist you.

have you been referred to hospital to have an appointment with an endocrinoligist ?? ( diabetic doctor )
 

Mr. OGU

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i am wondering first if you have the correct diagnosis ( or if you are not sure)
type 1's should be on a basal / bolus routine -- this has been recommended in latest NICE guidelines.

one of the first things to do to find out if your basal ( lantus )dose is correct is this -- basal testing
link here -- http://www.salforddiabetescare.co.uk/index2.php?nav_id=1007

have a look at this first
Well Sir thank you again, this link seems to be very useful
 

Mr. OGU

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i better add this as well -- you should have a DSN ( diabetic specialist nurse ) to help with the day to day monitoring and changes needed to assist you.

have you been referred to hospital to have an appointment with an endocrinoligist ?? ( diabetic doctor )
Yes but if i am honest they are just ..... they have just 3 to 5 minutes slots to each patient and that will not help
 

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@Mr. OGU when you say you have tried diets, which diets? Personally I tried the Low Carb High fat diet which really helped. Whilst it is different for T1s I know, I think the key message is to try and get your BS under control some how. For me my work performance has improved by 100% by achieving that sort of control. What are the jobs you are applying for? Are they just jobs or are they jobs you really have a passion for. As someone who has recruited a lot of people in my life I have got to say it is the lack of passion that is a real turn-off. You have to get past that some how. Either get the meds/life/BS under control or learn to fake enthusiasm. The interview process is not an exact science or at all fair. Good luck mate.
 
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daisy1

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@Mr. OGU

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Following the advice in here should improve your diabetes control and make you feel better. If you feel better, you will look better to any prospective employers. Good luck!

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.