Doctors..if I swear..will I be banned from this forum..

Finsky

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As I have aged I have lost almost two inches from my height. Happens to some of us.
Oh yes, I do expect that happening to me too...but since I'm still on my 40's and I was last measured 6 months ago, there is hardly going to be any drastic changes...head is still on...just....;)
Him questioning my height was down to him not believing his BMI calculation results..(another story of my life)...but he trusted the numbers rather than questioning the accuracy of the BMI...(I won't start that rant....biting my fingers....no more typing....)

BTW...I like your avatar...Pippi longstocking character is one of my favourite...spent many happy hours reading her stories..
 

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Use that anger and frustration at not being listened to or being treated like a child to keep going on days when it is tough. Whenever I pass my GP surgery on a walk I mentally give a victory sign because I know I have proved both the doctor I last saw and the DN wrong.
 
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Use that anger and frustration at not being listened to or being treated like a child to keep going on days when it is tough. Whenever I pass my GP surgery on a walk I mentally give a victory sign because I know I have proved both the doctor I last saw and the DN wrong.
Now...are you being truly honest...'victory sign' or do you possibly turn your hand other way round.... ;)
 
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Oh yes, I do expect that happening to me too...but since I'm still on my 40's and I was last measured 6 months ago, there is hardly going to be any drastic changes...head is still on...just....;)
Him questioning my height was down to him not believing his BMI calculation results..(another story of my life)...but he trusted the numbers rather than questioning the accuracy of the BMI...(I won't start that rant....biting my fingers....no more typing....)

BTW...I like your avatar...Pippi longstocking character is one of my favourite...spent many happy hours reading her stories..
Hi @Finsky. I understand your anger with doc. I am sure, as phoenix55 mentioned, you can use that to stay motivated to keep ahead of the game and show them you are able to prove them wrong. I do that all of the time. My avatar sort of sums up my aporoach to life's challenges. Sure you can get ahead of them. Any praise for your efforts won't be forthcoming from the surgery, but you can get that here.
Cheers, Pippi. :D
 

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Hi @Finsky. I understand your anger with doc. I am sure, as phoenix55 mentioned, you can use that to stay motivated to keep ahead of the game and show them you are able to prove them wrong. I do that all of the time. My avatar sort of sums up my aporoach to life's challenges. Sure you can get ahead of them. Any praise for your efforts won't be forthcoming from the surgery, but you can get that here.
Cheers, Pippi. :D
Thank you...yes...I am very much like 'Pippi' too...but every now and then my inner Victor Meldrew will take over...and this forum seem to be like calming balm for those moments.. Those grumpy moments must be sign of getting some new 'growth rings' into my tree, maturing less gracefully..
 
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Here's a little tip I use when I see my doctor or nurse and all of a sudden they listen and don't give you any bs.put your phone on record put it on the desk so they can see it and tell them it's recording what's being explained to you as you can't remember everything and you don't want to forget anything.also in future appointments they can't say I never said that because you can play it back and say yes you did works a treat.
Interesting idea if a bit confrontational. Maybe just ask if you could record the conversation. The way my memory works I'd probably leave my phone in the car or worse still forget how to make it record. LOL
 

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I've been to see 'dear' doctor today in hospital..diabetic review...'banging my head on wall'...
I really don't know if I should laugh, cry or scream with frustration. Did go through all the usual 'blah blah'...then to discussed the blood test results...'blah blah'. And when I mentioned that only way to keep my blood sugar levels in check (as my medication on its own is not up to it) I have started to do fasting..14:10 seem to agree with me and also lowering my carb intake.
WELL...he wasn't impressed..."WHY DO YOU DO THAT!" His eyes glazed over when I tried to explain.. obviously it wasn't interesting enough. And his response was "I do not blame you for your high reading, but we as medical profession are to blame for not giving you right medication". He didn't get it that the whole point is taking LESS medication...'banging my head on the wall again'....he did managed to mention that he is not in business making profit by prescribing medicines, that NHS cannot afford it..(hmm...)
Anyhow...in the end I did agree to change to some new medication...didn't agree to statins, AGAIN...didn't agree stopping my eating regime which has improved things a lot.
In positive note, he was a doctor who wasn't shy saying things bluntly..so I could answer back to him with same manner and neither of us did take offence of each other..and he didn't seem to be in hurry neither!! But other than that I feel like I did waste nice sunny day..
Time will tell what effect these new to me medicines have.
BTW...sorry about ranting....I just had to get this off from my chest and already feel better about it...shame that so often I have to talk about doctors in such a negative manner...there must be some good ones out there...somewhere...
Yes lets hope there are !!
 

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I was diagnosed over 13 years ago and have never seen a specialist at all. My practice deal with me in house, So be glad you get to see a specialist! The diabetic nurse is very good at comments about dieting which make you wonder why you bothered. I've been criticised for losing weight too fast and for losing weight too slowly. Never a good, keep it up!
 
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Couple of months ago I started 14:10 'diet' and couple weeks later from that added low(er) carb regime on top of it. And I'm really starting show results for it. No so much weight wise, though I've lost few pounds, but that has been just added bonus...main thing was to bring blood sugars under control.
It has been REALLY show progress, but as I'm now waiting to get to see diabetic nurse for 'training' for my new meds that doctor described, I might have to say NO THANK YOU for the medicine change!
I'm taking such a pleasure for the idea that if my lower readings are going to be on going thing...I can go to clinic with BIG grin on my face and tell what I've done to improve things :D
All these years I've been preached about importance of low fat diet..good carbs.. eating plan triangles...etc etc. Almost everything has been proven wrong!
I'm looking forward for my next appointment ;)
 
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Every appointment at my endo I get my height measured, I've been five seven forever!

My dsn, has to give me my diabetic review, and I do sit there trying not to laugh, as she goes through the motions. You can sometimes even think that she gets what I am about and tries to understand my condition, she shakes her head and I smile!

And, yes, I have gone through this a few times now! Do I think she really understands not eating so called healthy food and being really healthy without them?
No, not really!
(High carbs certainly affect me badly...no-one told me to avoid at the GPs...now I am! In fact Nurse told me to eat them...now I am on no more than wholemeal pasta or sweet potatoes only 1/2 a cup at any meal, USA sized cup -so it's a small amount. The Diet sheet they hand out would make every Diabetic blood test results much worse!!!
 
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[QUOTE="LizRayner, post: 1075729, member: 261543 The Diet sheet they hand out would make every Diabetic blood test results much worse!!![/QUOTE]
Indeed! I was diagnosed 23 years ago...and very little has changed in that time regarding eating recommendations. Over the years I've seen 'health professionals' about diets and food few times, been in general diabetes course where all the same info was repeated. If I picked up some new ideas from 'net' and asked their opinion about it...every time it was turned down for not being appropriate...more and less told 'stick to what you know'.
They don't have no idea how depressing it is when you do what you are supposed and it doesn't work...it is like vicious circle that effects everything in your body and life.
 
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Dear All
I'm sorry that the majority here seem to have problems with the medications.. I am T2 25 yrs and now on insulin for 8yrs. I also take metformin and lingagliptin for control (also had gliclazide in the past) along with bezafibrate for cholesterol and ramipril 1.25 mg for blood pressure. Have used metformin from the start apart the first couple of weeks have no symptoms as being described here. I've just been for my annual check with DSN at doctors, things are going well now had used a low carb high protein diet to lose weight, (protein shakes substitutes), please be aware that high protein can cause issues with kidney function, I had a huge drop last year and for the last six months have not used, diet became a little lax so have gained some weight with the increase in blood sugars. She recommended using the Michael Mosely 8 week diet but also said that she didn't mind what diet I used (but not too high in protein) provided I lose the weight and sugars come down and stay down. The less insulin you need to use the better, it is insulin that causes weight gain and this in turn drives the higher sugar levels. Guess I'm trying to say the less medication you can use, the better you will be. I intend to go out of this world with the same amount of limbs etc that I came in with so it is now up to me, don't get too stressed with your doctors etc, not good for you!, find what works for you. If at the end of the day you come of meds and blood sugars are normal then that is good. Yes it will mean that you pay for prescriptions and any testing strips you need to keep an eye on, but if you put in the hard work (and no it isn't easy I agree), I have suffered a few diabetic burnouts and always had weight gains and higher levels when that happens. Do trial and error diets, monitor your bloods - a 3 month trial then go for a repeat blood test at your doctor, I think we all have to take on board that we know our own bodies better and as I have said to previous DSN (not this one she is brilliant) it is my illness and I have to live with it, so I tend to take charge find out as much as possible, use these forums and Good Luck!!
 
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This is tragic - so much ill health is preventable by following a diet low in carbs! The science is clear now! Carbs make you sick to STOP eating them. please. I just joined an excellent free intro course on RealMealRevolution.com - loads of info and science, recipes, carb counters, support, etc.
Worth a look (BTW in South Africa they call low carb eating LCHF or 'Banting').
I'm currently learning all I can... :)
 
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I don't go to my GP regarding my Type 1 - When i joined the surgery they refused to prescribe me a test cartridge for my accucheck machine, because they didn't know what it was and therefore I must not need it. I had to go into the surgery for a meeting with the "diabetes" nurse and show her what i needed and why. My consultant is very nice - I just had to change to a new one as the one i'd seen for the past 25 years has retired - but he seems very nice and listens and understands :)
 
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I don't go to my GP regarding my Type 1 - When i joined the surgery they refused to prescribe me a test cartridge for my accucheck machine, because they didn't know what it was and therefore I must not need it. I had to go into the surgery for a meeting with the "diabetes" nurse and show her what i needed and why. My consultant is very nice - I just had to change to a new one as the one i'd seen for the past 25 years has retired - but he seems very nice and listens and understands :)
What!?...didn't know what test cartridges are...unbelievable! I'm glad you have now 'very nice' consultant.

Our GP surgery decided to issue only certain brand test strips and needles...that would mean new machines too. But they failed tell me that. So when I fetched my 'stuff' from pharmacy....there was needles and strips that didn't go with my machine. I wish they would make more effort to inform their patients...'.. thinking of starting ranting again..'.
'They' decided that the cheaper brand going to be issued for all diabetics on our surgery. Oh well....at least there is some options...
 
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OH NO...can't help it....I must do little rant...it helps!

Because the computer system on GP's surgery says that all the boxes in system need to be ticked off...and info up to date, that means 6 monthly blood tests, weighing, measuring blood pressure ...etc etc and all the 'blah blah' talk. ...all that have to be done regardless if I have few weeks earlier been through that for hospital records!
It is bloody marvelous that they can't save time and money and share the information between themselves!!! To do that, GP has to request the results!? How difficult can it be in this day and age.....!!!:arghh:
Ok....rant over...I just had to get off from my chest....
I just got reminder through post...'please make appointment'..and I only just had my blood tests etc. done last week!!!...and same tests again week before that, but no, make time and go bleed little more.....:mad:
Now my rant is complete! :happy::angelic:
 
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Lonnie

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This is my first post to forum and I wondered if anyone else has had a letter from the GP practice which was posted in Radstock when I live in Derbyshire about my annual diabetic review, This states that because I am managing my diabetes so well I will not be booked in to see a diabetic doctor as well as the practice nurse which as been the norm for a number of years What do the GPs do with their time and what sort of increase have the practice nurses received to take over the duties of the GP ie giving out prescriptions and managing my illness?
 

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This is my first post to forum and I wondered if anyone else has had a letter from the GP practice which was posted in Radstock when I live in Derbyshire about my annual diabetic review, This states that because I am managing my diabetes so well I will not be booked in to see a diabetic doctor as well as the practice nurse which as been the norm for a number of years What do the GPs do with their time and what sort of increase have the practice nurses received to take over the duties of the GP ie giving out prescriptions and managing my illness?
Hi Lonnie. My GP practice had a similar system in place, where the Practice nurse was trained as a Diabetes Certified Nurse (DCN) and was qualified to perform the usual basic tasks such take bloods, inspect feet , urine checks etc, She was not able to change or issue scrips, but could refer any mutual decision to the GP offline, and the GP would make the changes and send the scrip to the receptionist or pharmacy. This works for most day to day mangement issues such as diet etc, and I could always then book a follow up GP appointment if necessary. Now the DCN has left the practice, i get referred to the County specialist nurse who can issue scrips and update records etc, but I now see my GP for annual appraisal as well. This allows my GP to concentrate more on my other health issues.

i am happy with this arrangement.
 
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I've never seen my GP for my diabetic checks - it's always been a 6 monthly visit to the diabetic nurse.
 

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Ok....I feel in need for little rant and letting some steam out! Nothing major has happened, but enough to get my blood pressure up..:sour:
Thing is, I went to fetch my prescription from surgery...in the paperwork there was note from GP (one that I have never even met) that one of my medications, the doze needs to be putting up!!?? And with what bases I'll ask? Never met the person, he haven't seen my blood test results, he just assumes I'm still taking that medication (which I'm happy to say that I've taken myself off from :D..don't need it anymore :D). My HbA1c for surgery's records are due now so the old results are 6 months old...hardly a accurate bases for medications changes..and those that were done 2 months ago for hospital records, well the letter to GP (which I have copy of) did even manage to refer my test results from autumn 2015.. doctor didn't even mention the one I had done prior the appointment 2 months ago :banghead: AND..I have never been under GP's 'care' in first place..always been under hospital diabetes care. How in earth does this GP think he can go and do any changes by guessing my 'needs' for higher dozes of medication.
Ohhh...they have another thing coming...I can't wait to see diabetic nurse in 3 weeks time for my new medication training and I can then put for in more nicer terms than 'stuff it!' :cool::D Even I say so myself..."I'm doing pretty well with my diet and 'numbers"! Certainly there is still more room for improvement..but I've only been practicing my new life for couple of months and already halved my medication levels and taken myself off from one lot of tablets :D I ain't gonna start upping it all again unless I absolutely have to...I rather have cream with coffee and laugh all the way down to next blood test ;):D
I'm so sorry to say that in case of some doctors..I rather go see my bucher:rolleyes:
I feel bit calmer now...:angelic: