Hba1c

jocksgarage

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Hi All.

Sorry im new to this so please forgive me if I miss anything out.

I have been a diabetic now for 10 years .. type (2) im a 44 year old male always been pretty healthy but came down with the condition regardless.

I have had my Hba1c result today and it stands at 124 ?? I presume this is high as the doctor actually phoned me to say it was a bit on the high side but I feel he was just over reacting ? not too sure with all the health and safty guidelines they work to ?


Can anyone shed any light onto what the doctor is getting at please ?

I have also chosen to refuse medication for this condition as It does not work for me.. the insulin causes bloating and makes me a tad moody-the tablets dont work so I have given up on these too.

Im just looking for an answer to the Hba1c question please,

I already have retinopathy and periferal neuropathy.
 
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andcol

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yes and welcome and 124 for an HbA1c is very high! You must be having lots of other symptoms alongside this.

Anything below 42 is normal and having a score of 48 is a diagnoses of diabetes.
 

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Hi All.

Sorry im new to this so please forgive me if I miss anything out.

I have been a diabetic now for 10 years .. type (2) im a 44 year old male always been pretty healthy but came down with the condition regardless.

I have had my Hba1c result today and it stands at 124 ?? I presume this is high as the doctor actually phoned me to say it was a bit on the high side but I feel he was just over reacting ? not too sure with all the health and safty guidelines they work to ?


Can anyone shed any light onto what the doctor is getting at please ?

I have also chosen to refuse medication for this condition as It does not work for me.. the insulin causes bloating and makes me a tad moody-the tablets dont work so I have given up on these too.

Im just looking for an answer to the Hba1c question please,

I already have retinopathy and periferal neuropathy.

Hi @jocksgarage ,

124 is high for an a1c number. Please have a look at this page for further information.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-hba1c.html
 
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My last Hba1c was at 117. I also had keytones of 4.6 I was on the verge of DKA. So yes you are really high!!! Why would you refuse treatment? It is highly likely your going to end up in hospital with very serious complications.
 

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@jocksgarage - Hello and Welcome to the Forum. I will tag @daisy1 who will provide you with some basic information. A lot of forum members follow the LCHF diet and they have good results in helping to lose weight and lowering HBA1C.
 

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@jocksgarage

Hello and welcome to the forum :) If you follow a lowcarb/high fat diet your levels will go down. Here is the information we give to new members which should help you. Ask more questions if you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

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If had an HbA1c that high, chose to refuse medication, and was already experiencing diabetic complications (which are the result of prolongued high blood glucose), then I would have to expect those complications to get much worse.

Have you considered the long term effects of your choices?

There are many T2s here on the forum who make changes to our diets (cutting the carbs back) and our lifestyle (exercise helps, but it doesn't mean we have to run marathons!).

Personally, with an HbA1c that high I would accept treatment, and I would look to my diet and lifestyle as well.
 
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jocksgarage

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Hi @jocksgarage ,

124 is high for an a1c number. Please have a look at this page for further information.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-hba1c.html
hi, thanks for the reply that does explain a fair ammoun
If had an HbA1c that high, chose to refuse medication, and was already experiencing diabetic complications (which are the result of prolongued high blood glucose), then I would have to expect those complications to get much worse.

Have you considered the long term effects of your choices?

There are many T2s here on the forum who make changes to our diets (cutting the carbs back) and our lifestyle (exercise helps, but it doesn't mean we have to run marathons!).

Personally, with an HbA1c that high I would accept treatment, and I would look to my diet and lifestyle as well.

Hi Thanks for the reply.

I live in wales and the medical knowledge at my doctors surgery is diabolical to say the least.
I have been pushed from pillar to post with medication and I have no access to a specialist due to being told many years ago by a so called specialist that I did not have diabetes ?
This may sound far fetched but it is 100% accurate I assure you.
I have simply given up on my treatment which has had a severe effect on my family.
My wife is worried and so is my son who obviously does not want to visit his dad again in hospital while he is on a sliding scale pump.
I suppose what im asking for is some kind of guiding light from this forum maybe some inspiration to sort it out, But alas I do feel it has gone on for too long as im feeling well at the moment or at least what I think is well then it seems the only option is to continue as I am ?
My diet and lifestyle are fine I have been told I am very insulin resistant (what ever that means I simply dont know) ?
 

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Then chill, sit back, and read as much of this forum as you can. Just follow your nose and read in short bursts. Google strange phrases, and abbreviations, ask questions, mull things over.

I promise you that it is NEVER too late to start improving your control of your diabetes. Seriously.

Don't rush into anything - madcap diets, ranting at your doc, frantic exercise regimes... Just read and have a think.
But do set yourself small and manageable targets.

Personally, one of the reasons i haunt this place so much is that seeing so many other people all in the same boat, all thinking and helping and discussing, is very inspiring. My diabetic control has improved tremendously since i got here - all thanks to the information and support given by other posters.

You also have a few options re your doc.
You can ask for a referral to the nearest endocrinology clinic (i was at the Cardiff one when i lived in Wales). Had to travel 80 miles each way for an appt, mind you, but it was definitely worth going!
If you don't want to speak to your doc about it, you can always write to the surgery, requesting a referral.
If it is now firmly on your records that you are diabetic, then they wont be able to dismiss you like last time.

Please do stick around the forum.
And well done for posting.
The first few posts are always the hardest.
 
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