Can shock cause diabetes?

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I was reading this thread, yeah its 3 weeks old thinking the latest update will be he's seen a doctor and he's T1 now on insulin and under control and we're both LCHF'ing everything is great, brought us closer together etc etc .

I don't care, and neither should you care how you get him to a doctor, drag him by the short and curlies! but get him to a doctor - A&E now.

 

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Thank you, TorqPenderloin for your interesting take on this. Yes, I need to try to find out why he is being so stubborn over this issue, but he has always been this way (his family are the same!) However, I tested him at 7.45am (today) and his BS was down to 14.4, which is still high, but has reduced from the previous reading of 30.4 which was last evening. He admitted he was shocked by the much higher reading, and aims to reduce his sugar and carb intake. I telephoned my surgery earlier, and explained the problem...he will have to present himself there complete with ID etc., and will need to see the nurse just for a general health check...where we go from there is another matter, but at least it's a start.

Thank you all once again for your help and support...will keep you updated.

 

[Cathn61may]

I was born in a state of shock and was in Special care in 1961. I was very ill then diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes in 1967. I also have a friend who was anorexic she was diagnosed at 21 and another who was in a car accident she was diagnosed at 20. Shock or trauma created Type 1 for us.

 

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@choklit buttons

You really need to press home to him how important it is he gets himself to a&e - they will diagnose, provide insulin and teach him what he needs to do. We are all here to support but this is NOT something anyone can ignore - he will become seriously ill.

I know he doesn't want to go, and I know I am repeating what others have already said, but if he doesn't go, I would suggest calling your out of hours doctors service. Either they will tell you and hopefully him (if you can at least get him to talk to them on the phone) exactly what we've all said - seek treatment immediately. Or, they might take pity and send an on call GP out. Sounds like he is either not educated about the difference between type 1 and 2, or he is being wilfully ignorant.

This community is great and provides lots of support for all sorts of things -including what to do at each different stage of acceptance and of insulin therapy (though the condition doesn't change, there can be a honeymoon period in the first year).

Finally, I was diagnosed a week after learning of the suicide of a good friends father, I was 22. I firmly believe my diabetes was induced by shock as no one in my family on either side has diabetes and there is no history of it.

I hope you can cajole him into seeking medical intervention.

 

[Jon Lee]

If he won't go to the doctor suggest he writes his will. This may get through the seriousness of his situation. I was taken to A&E with a BS of over 30, I didn't realise how serious it was at the time, until I was taken from triage put into a cubicle with a needle in my hand. With the numbers in the room I was expecting to have to wait 2 - 3 hours for treatment, not a few minutes.

 

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Oh dear! Some sad stories there, but thank you for sharing. His BS at 5pm tonight was 15.4, so has increased from this morning, but not by much. Still too high though. He now has an eye infection...had this for a couple of days, saying there is something in his eye...stuck closed in the mornings. He went to the chemist on his way home, and was given chloramphenicol for conjunctivitis...I think it is a side effect of the high blood readings though. **sigh**

 

[BrianHall]

Have you not got any family members that can help? What about your children (if any)?

 

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His family are all as stubborn as he is! Our kids (aged 41 & 44) have repeatedly asked, told and begged him to go to the GP, to no avail. However, it appears he is somewhat willing to go and register with my GP, where they will give him a health check, so we'll see what happens next week.

 

[JennyNash]

I have recently been diagnosed with type 1 beginning of Feb after a few months of feeling tired etc my blood sugars wer 20+ in the gp surgery.. When I got to a&e my ketones were checked and I was 6.9 (stupidly high) I was lucky my blood didn't go acidic but I still spent 5 days in hospital and nearly 24hours on a drip! I dread to think what could of happened if I left it any longer, please get your husband seen too a lot quicker than next week! I think a trip to a&e is a must! Good luck to him

 

[RoseofSharon]

I'm gonna add my voice here - please get him checked!

A&E as already said is the best solution forth right now (or your out of hours doctor). Please I have seen so many people on the vascular and renal wards regretting that they either didn't get it checked dealt with early or didn't even know they had the disease. The complications that come from this disease are so not pleasant, please just do what it takes.

Being stubborn has its places but health is not one of them!

Pull up the pictures on Google of the complications, ask him directly does he want this complication or that complication (replace this or that with the worst complications you can think of) whatever will make him sit up and think. Google maggot therapy and tell him straight that's where he's heading. Please, please, please put your stubborn head on and be dramatic! Likelihood is that he's seen your condition and is thinking because you are controlling it and living the life you are that the condition's complications are overrated. So many people have lost limbs and lives due to this condition it worries me that he's not getting it looked into! (I can't help getting tearful when I remember anguish in some families when one family member has had to have their foot/leg amputated the statement always being the same 'they didn't know they had diabetes'.

Yes the eye infection does sound as though it MIGHT be a complication (he'll be lucky if that's the only one) however unless he is checked out you cannot say for certain.

 

[taowen]

I've met a few patients who have had a traumatic event and have then been diagnosed with diabetes. I have heard this from other health care professionals too. Although any litriture research draws a blank although it does seem to be anecdotal.

Also I have heard or MI causing diabetes.

As type 1 is autoimmune then diagnosis following on from an infection would add up. I personally had sepsis and developed ?type 2 currently controlled by sitagliptin.

As others have mentioned a BM that high needs treating. He's at risk of DKA or HONK.

 

[Westie58]

Hi everyone.....my husband had a bad fall a month ago, and blacked out...ambulance called as it was feared he had broken his back...fortunately he hadn't..just cracked ribs. He had a thorough examination by the paramedics, and all was normal (ECG, oxygen levels, BP) However his blood sugar was 8.5, which I thought was slightly high, given he had had nothing to eat for several hours. He has recovered from his injuries, but about a week ago developed a raging thirst, tiredness and general feeling of being unwell. I suggested I did his BS (I am type 2) but he refused. However, today I insisted on doing it and got a reading of 20.5. Just wondering if this could be connected to his accident? He is refusing to visit the GP, saying he will try and control it himself.....I just don't know what to do. Any advice would be welcome. Thank you.

Very interesting I developed Type 2 a while after a sustained traumatic family situation following my fathers passing.
No indication before apart from weight loss which at first my doc thought was down to this who knows? Could just have been a coincidence?

 

[griffaurora]

When I was diagnosed around 25 years ago, the specialist I saw said: "Now you have a choice to make. The first is whether to change your lifestyle and get a grip on your diabetes. If you decide not to make the changes, then there's another choice that you'll need to make in around six months: do you want to be buried or cremated?" It certainly focused my mind at the time. It might work for your husband.

 

[Daphne917]

In 2007 i lost my father in February, an uncle in March, my mother in April, sister in law in July and my husband had an aortic anerysym (aortic root and valve replacement+pacemaker) operation in September - the following year both me and my younger brother were diagnosed as having T2 diabetes which we put down to genetics as we are the third generation to develop it however this thread has now got me thinking!!

 

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So sorry to hear of your losses, Daphne917. That was an awful year for you.

My husband finally saw the Nurse at our surgery tonight....bloods taken, BP quite high, ketones present. He is to see the GP on Thursday of this week.

I'd like to thank everyone yet again for your support and kindness during this time with that stubborn so and so, but we finally have a diagnosis....although it was evident what it would be. I think he is relieved that his first visit is over and done with....and it wasn't as bad as he thought it would be. I just hope he doesn't have to take insulin...not sure how he would cope with that, but I suppose everyone who is on it said the same.

Thanks again.

 

[JohnEGreen]

@choklit buttons Thank goodness he has seen sense and should now get the help and medical care he is so in need of.

I hope both you and he will now have an easier time of it and wish you both well and all the best for the future John

 

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Thank you John.

 

[Snootybutnice]

Talking of shock (from earlier comments), I had my SAH just a few short months after having my brother die before me - and now I have Type 2 diabetes - I really don't think people truly understand whether shocks impact us or not but I happen to think my SAH wouldn't have happened had I not been through the trauma of my brother and that this in turn cause changes in my body which made me more prone to T2.

 

[Snootybutnice]

@chocklit buttons - hope things are still going OK for you and your husband x