So upset right now :(

MissMac

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Hi,
I literally found out less than 24hrs ago that I have suspected diabetes...well they say very probable considering my fasting glucose was stupidily high. I also suffer from depression, anxiety and a bit of PTSD....and to make it even worse..I'm a freaking nurse!
SO....basically...I've not stopped crying today, I feel scared..no scrap that terrified, angry, upset, tainted..I could throw so many words at this right now and bore you.
Is this even NORMAL? I mean it's all rather dramatic from a diagnosis of something that thousands have :(
Thank you for your time...I'm just reeling and really not myself at the minute
J xxx
 

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Getting diagnosed can be terrifying so your reaction is perfectly normal & this is a great site to talk, gather information & gain support. Talk openly to your gp or consultant if you are referred, explain your emotions, concerns & fears. I have found my gp & consultant/diabetic nurses amazingly supportive & understanding. Also the upside of being diagnosed in your case is that once your sugars are stable this will help with your mental health stability, so although it is terrifying it is much better to know than end up with physical complications & higher levels of depression & anxiety. Taking all this into account your anxiety & emotions at this point in time is completely understandable. Sending hug
 
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Bluetit1802

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Hi and welcome,

Yes, all that is normal. We have all been in your shoes, but I promise you these feelings won't last long. You have taken the trouble to find this website and wonderful forum, and that is the best step you could have taken during your first 24 hours. Here we are all diabetics of one sort or another with a wealth of experience between us. Have a good read round the main website and the threads on the forum - all the information you need is out there, but please also ask any questions you like. I will tag @daisy1 who has an excellent post for all newcomers.

Take note of the role of carbohydrates. This is very important because all carbs convert to glucose once inside the system and therefore need to be eaten sparsely and with care. It isn't just sugar. You will also need a glucose meter and plenty of test strips. Using this before and after meals alongside a food diary will teach you which foods are OK for you, and which aren't.

Take your time, some deep breaths, do some reading, ask questions, and keep posting. Good luck. :)
 
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MissMac

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Thank you so much for your replies. I don't have an appointment with the GP until Tuesday and to be honest would not have known the diagnosis unless I had pushed to be told what my bloods were; I only did it because I was told that they would not be back for at least a week and then got a call from the surgery telling me I needed to make an appointment...I couldn't handle not knowing over the weekend but have to admit to wishing I hadn't now!!
I know my diet has not been great and yes this will be the catalyst to change it further but the emotional drop out is not something I expected as my mental health has been wonderful since my breakdown last year, I think that has taken me rather aghast to say the very least.
I'm not really mentally ready to delve too far into things at the moment, all I keep seeing is horror stories and "warnings" and I just cannot seem to break out of that cycle...it's SO stupid! I'm an adult but my "inner child" is rebelling something awful and creating quite a conflict for the normal sensible me who would tackle this head on!!!
Please don't get me wrong I am not a "woe is me" kinda woman am just struggling more than I ever thought I would...like I say, if I'd not pushed for the results I would be none the wiser right now :(
 

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@MissMac

Hello MissMac and welcome to the forum :) You will feel better about having diabetes in a short time and you have done the right thing to join this forum. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. It gives a lot of information on carbs and you could also try the Low Carb Program (link below). Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Hi @MissMac,

Hold on in there and you will come out the other side. You are having a normal reaction to an abnormal situation and some of us grieve for life before diabetes. Once you get the hang of being able to manage it then you will be able to cope much better.
This article, aimed a Type1s but equally relevant to Type2s will hopefully put things into perspective for you.
http://diabetes1.org/News/Relating_the_Five_Stages_of_Grief_to_Diabetes
Remember that you are facing a marathon as opposed to a sprint, so take your time ask relevant questions and you will soon be in charge of the situation.
 
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Shelleymomma

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Hi,
I literally found out less than 24hrs ago that I have suspected diabetes...well they say very probable considering my fasting glucose was stupidily high. I also suffer from depression, anxiety and a bit of PTSD....and to make it even worse..I'm a freaking nurse!
SO....basically...I've not stopped crying today, I feel scared..no scrap that terrified, angry, upset, tainted..I could throw so many words at this right now and bore you.
Is this even NORMAL? I mean it's all rather dramatic from a diagnosis of something that thousands have :(
Thank you for your time...I'm just reeling and really not myself at the minute
J xxx

A normal reaction, sets you into a spin but you will start to settle and get to grips with things....I'm a newbie myself but feel better knowing I'm taking some control back by testing. Take care!.
 
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Phil-86

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Miss Mac

I was exactly the same last November. My partner is a nurse so we luckily had an idea what was up with me at the time; but the emotion I can emphasise with you.

It does get easier, and luckily you're in the right profession to get a higher level of support in my opinion.

I won't lie, I have days where I hide away and shy from everything and everyone, but they're rare and there's more positives than anything. I've gone head first into a fantastic diet and eating plan that is healthy for me as opposed to my previous junk food regime (I work on the road 4 days a week), teamed with this I've been well looked after due to a series of needle phobia, anxiety, stress (work and diabetes combined) , which has helped me two fold in clamping down on diabetes.

I'm now handling 5 a day and love the fact that there's so much going on in the world to help diabetics comparable to previous eras in the nursing of it.

You have to remember, you're not alone. There's people with and without diabetes supporting you and it does in fact get easier, by far. Anyone that told me that last November during my breakdown would have been ejected from the room politely, but it is true. Talk about it, it helps.

Hope you're OK

Phil x

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MissMac

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@Phil-86 Thank you so much for your reply. I'm not long out of bed so not very "with it" just now but checked in here anyway because the feelings of being very much "on ya own" are hard to deal with...though I know I'm not really (dealing or on my own!). After last night the partner and I are at a stalemate it seems and hardly talking!
As for help with being a nurse...I used to be in A&E but took a more regular job in an office (doesn't help in some respects 'cause it's far more sedentry) but least I have regular hours which is a massive thing for me!
I cannot thank any of you enough for being so supportive xxxx
 
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Clivethedrive

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@Phil-86 Thank you so much for your reply. I'm not long out of bed so not very "with it" just now but checked in here anyway because the feelings of being very much "on ya own" are hard to deal with...though I know I'm not really (dealing or on my own!). After last night the partner and I are at a stalemate it seems and hardly talking!
As for help with being a nurse...I used to be in A&E but took a more regular job in an office (doesn't help in some respects 'cause it's far more sedentry) but least I have regular hours which is a massive thing for me!
I cannot thank any of you enough for being so supportive xxxx

Hello miss macgold star for being here and putting your thoughts into this forum,1 st remember,diabetes is a disease of the nerves and can play havoc with any part of us...from neuropathy of the feet and hands to the eyes and kidneys,so please ,have a look at jenny rhuls Diet 101 or the Great Dr Richard Bernstein's Diabetes solution edition4, these and the great posters here will help you overcome this illness,keep posting


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Phil-86

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Oh I know the stand offs all too well. We're over them now but what helped with my partner and I was she read into diabetes a lot and the NHS actually sent her on a diabetes course that was scheduled just after my me being diagnosed, so that went down well too. She realised DKA, which is how I got diagnosed, was so serious that she took a step back from the duelling during the 'I don't want to use needles' arguments, and actually listened to me and understood me. Almost a year on it is so much better and we've had another child since. The only way is up @MissMac x

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AndBreathe

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@Phil-86 Thank you so much for your reply. I'm not long out of bed so not very "with it" just now but checked in here anyway because the feelings of being very much "on ya own" are hard to deal with...though I know I'm not really (dealing or on my own!). After last night the partner and I are at a stalemate it seems and hardly talking!
As for help with being a nurse...I used to be in A&E but took a more regular job in an office (doesn't help in some respects 'cause it's far more sedentry) but least I have regular hours which is a massive thing for me!
I cannot thank any of you enough for being so supportive xxxx

You OH may also have had a real shock hearing of your diagnosis. I often say that diabetes isn't a solo sport. It impacts those around us. Do try to keep talking to him. I know how much the ongoing support (and sometimes challenge) of my OH has meant to me.
 
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@MissMac
Bless you and your feelings, I am but a few short steps ahead of you here, (feel free to read my posts) and too still struggle getting my head around this most days.
I however have smashed this head on, lost the weight, changed the diet and doing loads more exercise - all the ingredients you need, and less than 3 months on my hba1c is not far off 'normal' , as are all of my other 'vital statistics. I hate the label I now have and struggle that it is for life - but it was the kick in the nuts I probably needed.
The advice in here is useful as is the support. Take on board ALL the advice and guidance provided (not just in here) but other sites a d HCPs and then do what is right for YOU.

Good luck. X
 
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AndBreathe

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@Heretic1 .....blonde moment...how do I read your previous posts? x

If you go to Heretic's profile (you do this by right clicking his user name to the left of the posting box), then there are tabs there for "Recent Activity" and "Posting". If you click on either of those, you can go back through). That's the easiest way I know of.

You'll get the hang of it.
 
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If you go to Heretic's profile (you do this by right clicking his user name to the left of the posting box), then there are tabs there for "Recent Activity" and "Posting". If you click on either of those, you can go back through). That's the easiest way I know of.

You'll get the hang of it.
Or under his profile pic where it says messages, click on the number of messages and it takes you straight to his posts.
 

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First 2 days when I got diagnosed, I was so busy protecting everybody. My parents for feeling bad about it being genetically related, my fiancé from being blamed by my relatives for bringing me to live in a "3rd world country" etc. I only had time at night by myself on the hospital bed to think about it and cry. But two days later I started focusing on how to get it right and haven't been having any depression after.


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Typicaltwo

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Hi MissMac

There's a programme on TV this evening called 'Fixing Dad'. It tells of how two sons help reverse their 62 year old father's T2 diabetes and complications using diet and execise. BBC2 10.pm, I recommend watching it.

Reversing T2 to normal levels is possible for most sufferers using a number of methods. The most common being adopting the Low-Carb, High-Fat lifestyle. Unfortunately, the bulk of the medical profession are still adhering to the Government's flawed Eatwell Guide for it's dietary recommendations to diabetics. I've had to go against my surgery's advice to reverse my T2, you may have to do the same - depending on how enlightened your GP practice is.

Over consumption of sugar (in all its forms), is being linked with a large number of health issues apart from diabesity, including: dementia, cancers, inflammatory problems and depression. So it's imperative that we all learn to cut back on our sugar and carb intake to improve our overall health control.

Good luck.
 
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