Help! I'm New To All This!

girl afraid

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I've been monitoring my glucose levels for a few weeks now. My fasting result averages at 6.3mmol/L. I've noticed that if I drop to around 5.5mmol/L I will get symptoms that I've always attributed to low blood sugar (mainly trembling). Is that normal?

I've also had higher than usual results for the past two days. Yesterday I had a fasting result of 8mmol/L! Today I took a post prandial reading of 8.1mmol/L two hours after a meal (baked potato and baked beans) and an hour walk. Two hours later it's dropped to 5.2mmol/L and I'm shaking.

Any advice? I feel utterly clueless.
 
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luceeloo

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Hi,

Our bodies are strange things. If blood sugar has been running consistently higher than normal for a while, then when it drops, the effect can feel like a hypo. It's called a false hypo, and they feel as real as any hypo. The key is to test, and if you can sit it out without treating it, your body will eventually get used to the more normal blood glucose levels. It's difficult, but I found that eating something very low carb, like an egg or some cheese, would help me get through the false hypos.

A meal like Jacket Potato and Beans is quite high in carbohydrates, so a higher blood glucose reading would be expected, as the carbs are converted to glucose. If you tried eating something a bit lower in carbs and then tested as a comparison, you may see the effect.
A lot of this disease is about trial and error. Eat, test, review. If something spikes your blood glucose levels, avoid it or eat less of it next time. Eventually you'll get an idea of what you can and can't eat.
 
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ParkeyBaykis

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The shakes can be down to your body not being used to having lower blood sugar, I think they're called false hypos. My understanding is that you'll only have hypos if you're taking insulin. I'm new at this too but my advice would be to have a snack if you feel shaky. Hope this helps
 
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himtoo

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why can't everyone get on........
Hi @girl afraid


welcome to the forum.:)

I think your question has been answered very well by @luceeloo and i hope you are starting to get to grips with life being D.

I am completely intrigued by your avatar thyroidrebel.com
I was diagnosed hypothyroid a couple of months ago and have not really got any knowledge .

I started this thread that you might be able to add some useful info to http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/thyroid-and-type-1diabetes.106537/

Thanks !!!!
 

chalup

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You might want to test at 1 hour to catch the actual spike. 2 hours is the point where you should be back to where you started. I will tag @daisy1 to send you some very good information that is given to newcomers. I highly recommend reading it thoroughly and follow all the links, it is very good stuff Welcome to the forum.
 
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You might want to test at 1 hour to catch the actual spike. 2 hours is the point where you should be back to where you started. I will tag @daisy1 to send you some very good information that is given to newcomers. I highly recommend reading it thoroughly and follow all the links, it is very good stuff Welcome to the forum.

I was always told that BG should be under 7 before eating and under 8.5 2 hours after eating. Obviously different foods cause highs at different times. I've never been told I should be back to where I started at the 2 hour mark.

Confused now
 
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chalup

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Those would be the upper limits put out by various diabetes organizations. If one followed that then newbies with high sugar would feel they could not eat anything at all. A normal response is to be back at baseline around 2 hours. For diabetics baseline is often higher than normal but foods that keep you elevated over 7.8 for hours on end are a very bad idea and levels over 7.8 for extended periods have been shown to contribute to complications.
 

hornplayer

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Well, I must be failing very badly then because my reading after 2 hours has never been lower than my pre dinner reading.

.... And now I really do feel as though I should just stop eating completely.
 

chalup

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@hornplayer Well that was certainly not my intent. I don't want to discourage or make anyone feel bad and you have my sincerest apologies if I have done that. We are all different and diabetics are not normal in their metabolism. I am often not at or below at 2 hours either but it is something to shoot for and sometimes I am and then I am happy with my choices. Having blood sugars well over 8 for hours at a time is not ideal. It happens from time to time though. No one is perfect, especially me.
 

NoCrbs4Me

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The less carbs you have in a meal the better your chance of a successful 2 hour reading.
 

daisy1

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@girl afraid

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we send to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask more questions when you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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bainster54

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I was on metformin which caused diehrea and a lot of bleed doctor has changed me to gliclazide but i cant get my bloods down if i get them below 10 i feel exuasted. Any advise please
 

chalup

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I was on metformin which caused diehrea and a lot of bleed doctor has changed me to gliclazide but i cant get my bloods down if i get them below 10 i feel exuasted. Any advise please
Please read the post directly above yours, the one by daisy1 and follow all the links as well. This is very important information and will answer your question. In your future posts please ask any questions you have and someone will be happy to answer you but it will be much more likely to get answers if you start a new thread. Welcome to the forum bainster54
 
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