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Hi everyone.
I'm new here, A few salient facts.
Was diagnosed 18 August 2016 HBaC1 92 or 10.3% ( = ave glucose 14.3/% ) This appointment was triggered by a following a fasting glucose reading of 18.4.
I have buried my head in the sand on this for a long time, so the diagnosis wasn't a surprise.
I have had 2 bouts of cellulitis 2005 and 2013, and a detached retina 2014. My last blood sugar prior to diagnosis was in May 2014 at 8.0 non fasting which I was told was "Normal".
In my own opinion I've probably been un-diagnosed diabetic since at least 2005 and most probably at least prediabetic when my high blood pressure was diagnosed 20 years ago. My blood pressure meds have kept me around 120-130 over 80/90 range over the years. I'm not really into sweet things, - but faithfully tried to be "low fat" for years so avoided most animal fats and nuts and probably did untold damage as a result.
Having read up on it first before my bloods appointment I refused any medication and instead embarked on a LCF diet. So far down from 114 kg to 104 kg ( I started dieting 1 August, but low fat until 18 August - then Low Carb after). I did lose 30 kilo aged about 30 using low fat method but put it all back. I'm now 58 yrs old and female.
My fasting morning glucose has come down from that initial 18.4 to around 8- 9 now. Since the day I started LCF the highest reading I have ever seen was 14.1 post prandial. for a few days it hovered around a narrow range of 7.5 to 10. Morning readings around 9.
I guess I was getting a bit complacement that this was all working, enough to include 10g of flour in a recipe on 2 consecutive days ( all measured - my total calories on each day being circa 1000, made up 20% carbs, 60-70% fat balance protein) . The result was two days of morning 7 range 7-9, became 2 days of opening 9 range 9-11. I am clearly very carbohydrate intolerant.
I've been in ketosis for a couple of weeks now and not really feeling any hunger. That in turn leads me to think maybe fasting would be useful because I don't really think about food at all at the moment and clearly avoiding carbs altogether seems like it might be beneficial to me.
Sorry for the length - but I wanted to get the actual facts down.
- re Fasting
Day 1 fast - opening bloods 8.9 - carried on fasting 11.6 panicked a bit went for a walk ( 30 mins) improved to 9.9 - so had a tiny meal ( 200 cals ) back up again to 11 - before dropping to a new low of 6.5 in the evening and then gradually rising until bed 10.5 ( total calories about 400 )
.Day 2 fast - opening bloods 8.1 - which then continued to go up as the fast continued at hourly intervals 10.1, 11.1, 12.6 .
This time I decided to go for a walk ( circa 2 miles and a swim 1 hour) and after it dropped to 7.8 and is now gradually going up again. ( walkies soon! ) (total calories around 200 10g almond plus 2 oxo cubes in hot water for the salt. )
So - Currently it seems the act of fasting causes a steadily rising blood sugar until I interrupt it with exercise.
Yesterday 8.9-11.6 before exercise
Today 8.1- 12.6 before exercise .
I'm trying to figure out if this means my blood sugar would just carry on going up infinitum without the exercise . Clearly Fasting cannot be giving me glucose to make my blood sugar increase, so it must be being released through the ketosis .
Does anyone have any experience on what I should expect to happen if I continue this fast, and for that matter at what point it should be imperative to take exercise if that is the way to bring my blood sugars down . The guys reporting on fasting in general have lower readings than me, so its hard to see a comparison.
Thanks a lot for any responses.
I'm new here, A few salient facts.
Was diagnosed 18 August 2016 HBaC1 92 or 10.3% ( = ave glucose 14.3/% ) This appointment was triggered by a following a fasting glucose reading of 18.4.
I have buried my head in the sand on this for a long time, so the diagnosis wasn't a surprise.
I have had 2 bouts of cellulitis 2005 and 2013, and a detached retina 2014. My last blood sugar prior to diagnosis was in May 2014 at 8.0 non fasting which I was told was "Normal".
In my own opinion I've probably been un-diagnosed diabetic since at least 2005 and most probably at least prediabetic when my high blood pressure was diagnosed 20 years ago. My blood pressure meds have kept me around 120-130 over 80/90 range over the years. I'm not really into sweet things, - but faithfully tried to be "low fat" for years so avoided most animal fats and nuts and probably did untold damage as a result.
Having read up on it first before my bloods appointment I refused any medication and instead embarked on a LCF diet. So far down from 114 kg to 104 kg ( I started dieting 1 August, but low fat until 18 August - then Low Carb after). I did lose 30 kilo aged about 30 using low fat method but put it all back. I'm now 58 yrs old and female.
My fasting morning glucose has come down from that initial 18.4 to around 8- 9 now. Since the day I started LCF the highest reading I have ever seen was 14.1 post prandial. for a few days it hovered around a narrow range of 7.5 to 10. Morning readings around 9.
I guess I was getting a bit complacement that this was all working, enough to include 10g of flour in a recipe on 2 consecutive days ( all measured - my total calories on each day being circa 1000, made up 20% carbs, 60-70% fat balance protein) . The result was two days of morning 7 range 7-9, became 2 days of opening 9 range 9-11. I am clearly very carbohydrate intolerant.
I've been in ketosis for a couple of weeks now and not really feeling any hunger. That in turn leads me to think maybe fasting would be useful because I don't really think about food at all at the moment and clearly avoiding carbs altogether seems like it might be beneficial to me.
Sorry for the length - but I wanted to get the actual facts down.
- re Fasting
Day 1 fast - opening bloods 8.9 - carried on fasting 11.6 panicked a bit went for a walk ( 30 mins) improved to 9.9 - so had a tiny meal ( 200 cals ) back up again to 11 - before dropping to a new low of 6.5 in the evening and then gradually rising until bed 10.5 ( total calories about 400 )
.Day 2 fast - opening bloods 8.1 - which then continued to go up as the fast continued at hourly intervals 10.1, 11.1, 12.6 .
This time I decided to go for a walk ( circa 2 miles and a swim 1 hour) and after it dropped to 7.8 and is now gradually going up again. ( walkies soon! ) (total calories around 200 10g almond plus 2 oxo cubes in hot water for the salt. )
So - Currently it seems the act of fasting causes a steadily rising blood sugar until I interrupt it with exercise.
Yesterday 8.9-11.6 before exercise
Today 8.1- 12.6 before exercise .
I'm trying to figure out if this means my blood sugar would just carry on going up infinitum without the exercise . Clearly Fasting cannot be giving me glucose to make my blood sugar increase, so it must be being released through the ketosis .
Does anyone have any experience on what I should expect to happen if I continue this fast, and for that matter at what point it should be imperative to take exercise if that is the way to bring my blood sugars down . The guys reporting on fasting in general have lower readings than me, so its hard to see a comparison.
Thanks a lot for any responses.