Hi everyone - Type 2

Seyiauetta

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Type 2
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Tablets (oral)
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Cigarette Smoke. People who need to be reminded a gazillion times that I'm still Deaf even though I have a voice!
Sorry for not being around much but I'm 'Trying' to spend time looking up Type 2 as my Dr's surgery has been pretty useless. Got the tablets, they're ok, Confused as hell about everything else but I'm gradually having to try and find out myself. Have asked to be referred to a dietician to help me manage the condition but they don't seem keen, saying I'm to just eat normally the tablets will do their job! Needless to say I've heard nothing as a result. I can't apparently attend the 'Dereck' course because I'm Deaf and will 'miss so much' it seems and 'not get all the information'. They were going to refer me for a one to one instead. haven't heard anything about that either in spite of me emailing and asking what, if anything is happening. very fed up with it all already :(
 
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Type of diabetes
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Diet only
My experience of the dietitian I saw was not inspiring and when she offered another appointment I said there was no need. Quite frankly the advice you get on this site is worth a great deal more.

Are you profoundly deaf or can you use an aid since there is a free low carb course on this site with a talking presenter and they haven't got round to sub titles yet. There is a low carb forum and you could look at the recipes on Diet Doctor. I am glad the tablets are OK since I have heard of many people having adverse side effects of one thing or another. I never refused a tablet and tried them all to see what worked and what didn't before I stopped taking any.
 
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LivingLoud

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Type 2
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Diet only
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Things I should
I second that. Desmond (BTW, not Derek, unless he's Desmond better looking younger brother) is useless. Well at least i thought it was useless. The low carb advice on this site has been far more useful
 
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Sorry to correct you but the courses in Kent are run by the Paula Carr charity and are called DEREK. They are held at the William Harvey Hospital.

Because I had spent some time experimenting on myself and had joined this site I didn't find the DEREK course as useful as I might. They pushed the party line a lot and when I asked them about carbohydrates and processed foods they cleared their collective throat and didn't answer.
 
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Seyiauetta

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
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Cigarette Smoke. People who need to be reminded a gazillion times that I'm still Deaf even though I have a voice!
Sorry to correct you but the courses in Kent are run by the Paula Carr charity and are called DEREK. They are held at the William Harvey Hospital.

Because I had spent some time experimenting on myself and had joined this site I didn't find the DEREK course as useful as I might. They pushed the party line a lot and when I asked them about carbohydrates and processed foods they cleared their collective throat and didn't answer.
 

Seyiauetta

Active Member
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42
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Cigarette Smoke. People who need to be reminded a gazillion times that I'm still Deaf even though I have a voice!
I was told it was run by Paula Carr charity too but that I can't be included because I'm Deaf! It seems I'm forever having to make allowances for the 'hearing' such as lip reading them and they do nothing to make allowances for the Deaf. :(
 
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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I was told it was run by Paula Carr charity too but that I can't be included because I'm Deaf! It seems I'm forever having to make allowances for the 'hearing' such as lip reading them and they do nothing to make allowances for the Deaf. :(
So it seems. They could write the lectures down as a script surely. It would be a keeper for the hearing as well.
 

Energize

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
I was told it was run by Paula Carr charity too but that I can't be included because I'm Deaf! It seems I'm forever having to make allowances for the 'hearing' such as lip reading them and they do nothing to make allowances for the Deaf. :(
Well, I think that it is disgusting that, being deaf, they consider it's not for you and then do nothing to provide an appropriate option. What about 'Equality Act ' etc. It sounds like they are in breach of this. Worthy of a complaint, in my opinion.

However, having said that, most advice (but possibly excluding DERICK) is to tell you to continue eating starchy foods, like bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, pastry, fruit, etc, also that Type 2's don't need to test! Well, all bad advice, in a large proportion, if not all, of members here.

Have you had the post from daisy1 regarding very good information re diabetes? If not, please mention this and someone will tag her for you. It's possible you've already seen it, even if on another's post.

As already mentioned, you'll find much better information on this forum than anywhere else so lots of reading, I'm afraid..

All the best and welcome to the forum :)
 
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daisyduck

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
When I went on a DESMOND course, there was a deaf lady who had a hearing friend with her, who signed everything she was unable to lip read. The instructors were very helpful and did speak while looking at her.
I must agree that the advice was rather rubbish though and gave me no idea about how many carbs I should be eating.
 
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SWUSA_

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Type 2
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Insulin
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Parsnips, turnips, swedes-the vegetable not the people.
Sorry for not being around much but I'm 'Trying' to spend time looking up Type 2 as my Dr's surgery has been pretty useless. Got the tablets, they're ok, Confused as hell about everything else but I'm gradually having to try and find out myself. Have asked to be referred to a dietician to help me manage the condition but they don't seem keen, saying I'm to just eat normally the tablets will do their job! Needless to say I've heard nothing as a result. I can't apparently attend the 'Dereck' course because I'm Deaf and will 'miss so much' it seems and 'not get all the information'. They were going to refer me for a one to one instead. haven't heard anything about that either in spite of me emailing and asking what, if anything is happening. very fed up with it all already :(
I am tagging @daisy1 for you. She will send basic information. Here in the USA information must be supplied in an appropriate format for people with impaired hearing and deafness. If you find something online you would like from here I could send a transcript-my mother is hearing impaired and qualifies for translation. We use American sign language here, do you?
 
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daisy1

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@Seyiauetta

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.