errrrrr New Prediabetic and vegan.

jan681

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hi i was told bout this forum by an fb frenid fund out i was prediabtic just today and its come as hell of a shock i relayy dont kneo were to begin im vegan i dint smok or drink im am over weight and i know my biogical father as it ive been told to go ona strict diet do carbs etc i exerise every day as i ahve 3 dogs and spend most of my time out doors when im nor running round in doors were do i begin do i get a blood montor thingy sorry for waffling but im at a loss here thanks
 

Freema

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welcome here jan681 :)

I´ll tag @daisy1 so you get the basic information given in this forum


yes it is a gigantic chock to have to understand that you are prediabetic...
you are vegan.... some other persons in here are too I believe...
it is very different from the foods many diabetics type 2 eats with lots of meat eggs and cream and cheese and bacon...


but you being overweight then maybe you can benefit from changing to much more fatty types of foods ... like coconut-flesh , nuts all kinds and olives and avocadoes and try to stay away from all kinds of sugars , syrups and fruits

and as treats change to berries instead of fruits...

all veggies over ground are mostly lower in carbs and with legumes and fats like olive oil and coconut oil and algea-oil which contain very important things for your brain...would be a good choice... hopefully you do take a supplement of vitamin b12 being a vegan...

you´ll have to read a lot , here is a link to the vegetarian debates in this forum.. maybe you can use some of what is written here : http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/vegetarian-diet-forum.71/

it takes some month to get it all right but being only prediabetic maybe you can change diet and lifestyle so that it doesn´t progress, good luck
 

Salvia

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
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Diet only
Hi @jan681 and welcome to the forum. I think I can understand where your head is at right now - I was in the same place myself about 6 months ago. Don't worry, you'll settle down fairly soon and things will become much clearer. If you have a read through the info that daisy1 will provide you'll get a good start on learning about diabetes, and there are some great links to other info which you should follow up as well. Also, have a look at the Home pages on this site; (click the tab at the top of each page) there's a section for Prediabetes there, which will also give lots of info.

To answer your question: I think it will be very useful for you to get a blood glucose monitor so that you can check your levels before and after food. You will then find out what foods cause your glucose levels to rise and you can adjust what you eat to reduce the rise as much as possible. A lot of people here use the SD Codefree monitor as it has the cheapest testing strips; (it is the strips that can become quite expensive; the monitors themselves are fairly cheap), you'll probably need a lot of strips in the early days until you get to learn what foods are good for you and which ones are not so good. If you're in the UK, remember to order the version that shows mmol/L as that is the measure used here.

If any questions, please feel free to ask, there's usually someone around who will be glad to help out. Good luck :)
 

daisy1

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Cruelty towards animals.
@jan681

Hello Jan and welcome to the forum :) Here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help. This information includes advice on carbs and a link to the Low Carb Program if you want to try it.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

jan681

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hi thanks all for the advice like i said sorry for waffling was looking at loads of great info in here as prediebtic do i get refeurd to a dibtic clincic i know im seeing a nuse next week bout my diet
 
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Avocado Sevenfold

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hi thanks all for the advice like i said sorry for waffling was looking at loads of great info in here as prediebtic do i get refeurd to a dibtic clincic i know im seeing a nuse next week bout my diet
Hi Jan :) I do not know about a clinic for prediabetic people as I skipped the pre and went straight to type 2. I see the nurse at my GP surgery. Perhaps someone else could help you with what to expect and how often you will be seen.

Please take this diagnosis as a great opportunity to try to dodge type 2. My dietician advised me to "fill up on plenty of carbs at every meal" but this is the worst advice for anyone let alone diabetics o_O If you get told something similar, I strongly advise you to come back here for help. I am a vegan and have good control of my diabetes so far so it is possible to eat well without eating high carbs. All the best.
 
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jan681

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Hi Jan :) I do not know about a clinic for prediabetic people as I skipped the pre and went straight to type 2. I see the nurse at my GP surgery. Perhaps someone else could help you with what to expect and how often you will be seen.

Please take this diagnosis as a great opportunity to try to dodge type 2. My dietician advised me to "fill up on plenty of carbs at every meal" but this is the worst advice for anyone let alone diabetics o_O If you get told something similar, I strongly advise you to come back here for help. I am a vegan and have good control of my diabetes so far so it is possible to eat well without eating high carbs. All the best.
thanks i will im gonna ivest in a mterer as welln ill see what the nuse says when i see her on the 17th
 
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