New Diabetes 2 admitted with sugar/glucose readings off the scale

rafcosford

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Hi folks. Good to find such a vast support network.
I'm Perth-based Australia.admitted 6 days ago with sugar/glucose readings off the scale and in last few days insulin readings have been between 12 and 15, ocaasionally a 9 depending on time after meals. I'm feeling a little lost since I was discharged today and my first reading was close to 18. I'm probably missing something fairly rudimentary, maybe testing too soon after meal. In hospital everything's at hand, water, tea, meals you know the rest, but I'll give myself another reading soon and post again. Good luck to all.
David
 
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walnut_face

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welcome @rafcosford (is that where you served?) I will tag @daisy1 who will post some very useful info. Please read, and feel free to answer any questions you may have. There is no such thing as a stupid question, only a stupid answer. Pleased that you have a meter and are using it. Test before a meal, and again 2 hours after 1st bite. You are looking for a rise of no more than 2mmol. Any more than that and there is something on the plate that you body doesnt like. There are quite a few folk on here from your corner of the globe @Indy51 and @Tipetoo spring to mind
 
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Diakat

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Welcome to the forum.

I suppose the question is what are you eating and are you on any medication?
 

Bluetit1802

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Hi and welcome,

It would help us all if you could add somewhere which diabetes meds you are on (either on your profile page or better still in your signature). That way people can offer better advice. It is especially important if you are on insulin or Gliclazide)

Meanwhile, have a good read round everywhere on the forum and see how others are coping with their diabetes. Do ask questions, and use your meter frequently.
 
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Phoenix55

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Hi And welcome @rafcosford , your readings still seem to be a bit high. You may find if you keep a food diary that you are not only reacting to sugars and carbohydrates but also too grains. The only way you will find out is by keeping a record of everything that you eat and drink with testing 2 hours after eating. It is drag initially but you soon get into a routine and the feeling of being back in control of your own health is worth it.
 

Liam1955

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@rafcosford - Hello David :) and Welcome to the Forum.
 

Chook

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Welcome to the forum David. :) :)
 

daisy1

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@rafcosford

Hello David and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why :)
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Johnjoe13

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Welcome to the forum. You will find a lot of information here very useful indeed, especially around carbohydrates. Most people assume that when they get diagnosed with this disease it's all about the obvious foods that have lots of sugar in and by avoiding these you be fine, not so. Carbs are just as bad as they are turned into sugar in your system, so read about all the stuff you probably don't know is bad for you like Potatoes, Pasta and Bread. Porridge and stuff like that, all this type of stuff will increase your blood glucose so you really need to look at your diet. The good new is all this information and more it right here
 

daisyduck

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Welcome David. You'll find out all you need to know from the lovely people on here, who live and cope with diabetes daily. There is some great advice.. I've learned far more on here than I ever did from my doctor.
Any questions, just ask :)
 

rafcosford

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Insulin
welcome @rafcosford (is that where you served?) I will tag @daisy1 who will post some very useful info. Please read, and feel free to answer any questions you may have. There is no such thing as a stupid question, only a stupid answer. Pleased that you have a meter and are using it. Test before a meal, and again 2 hours after 1st bite. You are looking for a rise of no more than 2mmol. Any more than that and there is something on the plate that you body doesnt like. There are quite a few folk on here from your corner of the globe @Indy51 and @Tipetoo spring to mind

Thanks very much for the info. I guess its early days after being discharged from acute ward (yes I was that bad) its a bit unnerving when you have to DIY. I got my glider and single prop flying licence from Cosford many years ago. Fantastic times, and didn't live too far away either. All the best, David
 

SueNSW

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Hi David - @rafcosford - from across the Nullarbor (and more) - Newcastle NSW

It's such an 'interesting' condition - I was diagnosed (Type 2) in November and was told my readings - mid to high 20's were pretty high - but had absolutely no symptoms and in the words of my GP was "reasonably lean". Wonder how high yours were to be off the scale??

Good luck with it all
Sue
 

AlexF

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Diet only
I would recommend the 2 keto dudes podcast to anyone looking for info on how to manage their diabetes with a low carb diet.