Possible Hypos?

ghost_whistler

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Sorry to have to go through all this again.

Today when I ate breakfast I felt ever so slightly woozy afterwards. I checked my BS and it was between 5 and 6. I further checked a couple of times and it dipped an entire point. I know that's not hypo, but it had me worried. Sometimes it's like my metabolism has some issue digesting the food I eat, even low carb (breakfast was a cooked pork slice, an avocado with some linseeds, and some kale.

Also, just recently this evening, I got pretty strong hunger pangs and felt I had to eat something. My BS was 5.1. I do get hunger pangs, even on low carb, from time to time. I put it down to stomach acid and it usually disapppears, but this was pretty strong and I felt almost a little breathless.

It's going to be ages before i see an endocrinologist. They only sent the letter off last week. If i go to the GP, and i probably will later this week, they are not going to be keto sympathetic and I would hate to have to abandon all this as it seemed to be working,

Are these kinds of symptom normal for this? I've been doing this 4 weeks, this thursday.
 

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I feel like this most of the time when i eat normally, I count the carbs eat and adjust sometimes as soon as I've eaten I feel like I've had too much insulin and I'm going low. It's strange for sure. My best guess is if it's sugary foods or foods with a high glycemic index it's going to effect BG fast and hard. So you will feel horrible. Try and eat just the right amount of carbs for your BG. If you are at 5.0 eat two pieces of Warburtons small wholemeal toast at 9g of carbs each with a low glycemic index no insulin needed nice toast in belly. Check 2-4 hours later for more food lol
 
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But that's the thing. I'm eating low carb food. No bread, sugars or anything like that.

I guess my metabolism must just be f(*&&*d
 

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Nothing you have said above is jumping out as being alarming or a **** metabolism...
 

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Stupid question but are you having any carbs? Because if you are counting the carbs and correcting for the ones that sugar you will feel awful and will be dropping faster than expected.
 

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I appreciate you may feel a bit off, but there is nothing wrong with any of those levels. They are normal.

What have you eaten today, and at what point did you feel hungry?
 

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As I said before, that's not a hypo. When you don't have diabetes, your blood sugar moves up and down without you knowing because you don't test, of course.

Everyone feels hungry - nothing to be concerned about there. As for the 'woozy' feeling, what exactly did it feel like? If I was you, I'd return to your doctor and mention this feeling and ask him/her to rule out obvious causes like blood pressure or an adrenal surge, etc
 

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Stupid question but are you having any carbs? Because if you are counting the carbs and correcting for the ones that sugar you will feel awful and will be dropping faster than expected.
I eat 12g carbs, give or take, from veg and fruit (avocado).

All of them produce some measure of sugar, that's what carbs are. No matter how small.
 

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Just as a side note last year I was on the lean in fifteen diet. I had advacado bacon and egg and I didn't feel 100% afterwards. I remember as I was taking my son swimming on holiday and I had to get out of the pool and test. I was around 6 and confused.
 

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If you have been running on high BG's for a long while.. these new lower (normal) ones can feel odd. By all means see your GP but I think these are fairly normal reactions to your body adjusting to the lower carbs and lower BG levels.
I get quite grumpy if I'm hungry ;) so I will eat , mealtime or not

Just seen your last post pop up.. 12 carbs is very low, why are you going so low in your first attempt ?
 

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As I said before, that's not a hypo. When you don't have diabetes, your blood sugar moves up and down without you knowing because you don't test, of course.

Everyone feels hungry - nothing to be concerned about there. As for the 'woozy' feeling, what exactly did it feel like? If I was you, I'd return to your doctor and mention this feeling and ask him/her to rule out obvious causes like blood pressure or an adrenal surge, etc
It's hard to explain and I don't want to overstate it. It's just that, right after eating, it's like a hypo only much much lighter. I don't feel faint or anything like that, but i feel a bit 'delicate'. A little while later and it's fine, apart from the odd hunger pang which i still can't fully eradicate. Most people on LCHF say they barely feel hungry or even eat 3 meals a day.

I get the same kind of feeling if i eat egg, particularly unless it's hardboiled (though even then its not great for me). It's almost as if one is getting hungrier. A bit like when i mentioned before about eating things like porrige or buckwheat, only less intense. That's why i wanted to ditch carbs.
 

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Just as a side note last year I was on the lean in fifteen diet. I had advacado bacon and egg and I didn't feel 100% afterwards. I remember as I was taking my son swimming on holiday and I had to get out of the pool and test. I was around 6 and confused.
Sounds about right.

I know that, if i don't feel full after eating (they say you should feel sated, but to me it's synonymous), I still feel hungry and slightly off.

It must be a digestive thing. Slow metabolism or something.
 

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It's hard to explain and I don't want to overstate it. It's just that, right after eating, it's like a hypo only much much lighter. I don't feel faint or anything like that, but i feel a bit 'delicate'. A little while later and it's fine, apart from the odd hunger pang which i still can't fully eradicate. Most people on LCHF say they barely feel hungry or even eat 3 meals a day.

We're all different. I feel hungry when I eat a LCHF meal. It doesn't affect my hunger level at all. So don't worry about that too much.

What you've said above makes me wonder if it's a physical thing to do with your stomach. Nerve issues (as in nerves not just being nervous) can cause sudden sweating after eating, so maybe they can cause a feeling of being slightly woozy too. As you've said it goes away, that would fit.
 

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I know it's type 2 but some people have funny reactions to avocados
 

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I can't remember if I've already mentioned this, but there's also something called Postprandial Hypotension, where your blood pressure drops when you eat.

I really do think a visit to the doctor might help. It could be nothing to do with your endocrine system at all, so don't wait for the appointment. To my mind, you've ruled out hypos, so look to other causes so that another condition isn't missed @ghost_whistler
 

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I can't remember if I've already mentioned this, but there's also something called Postprandial Hypotension, where your blood pressure drops when you eat.

I really do think a visit to the doctor might help. It could be nothing to do with your endocrine system at all, so don't wait for the appointment. To my mind, you've ruled out hypos, so look to other causes so that another condition isn't missed @ghost_whistler
That sounds plausible, but then again what do I know. I'm not a doctor. My GP just thinks I have a very reactive metabolism. Previous tests revealed nothing, back in the day. All I can do really is see the specialist I think. Everytime my blood pressure has been tested they tell me it's fine though, and they like to test blood pressure!
 

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Due note that some meters do over read more than others and that 5.0 could easily be 3.9. Sometimes I feel dizzy after about 60 minutes from eating and I check and I'm 4s but notice by checking again I've gone up, meaning I was low and my liver has jumped in to save the day(as it should dump glucose or I would be unconscious)but still feeling the effects for a while. I normally get this when I do cardio in the hours beforehand as the carbs I've eaten are being taken up quicker to refill stores.

Personally, I've have to eat over 140g or I'm dizzy all day with very low blood glucose these days, so very low carb it's not for everyone, and best to find a balance you and body are happy with.


Sure, but I can't go second guessing the meter. I can't assume it's wonky. I've had a low reading like that before, and I didn't feel like that today.

Sorry to hear LC doesn't work for you, which of course is entirely fair enough. I'd be interested in hearing what LC experts make of that. Perhaps it really isn't for everyone. Good luck to you.
 

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That sounds plausible, but then again what do I know. I'm not a doctor. My GP just thinks I have a very reactive metabolism. Previous tests revealed nothing, back in the day. All I can do really is see the specialist I think. Everytime my blood pressure has been tested they tell me it's fine though, and they like to test blood pressure!

I would imagine that such a condition would need special testing involving eating then measuring blood pressure.

I'm not a doctor either, but what you wrote made me think of that, and as you're being plagued by these symptoms, it would do no harm to rule it out.