Scared and Confused as to how and what to do regarding type 2 Diabetes

Kitty1959

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Hi i am new to this and hope am doing this right i have just been diagnosed as being type 2 diabetic and on metformin 1000 x 2 in the morning sr and am taking Atorvastatin 40mg at night i was told not to get a glucose meter as i would become obsessed and if i needed one she would tell me when to get one i have been referred to a group called Desmond to learn about the condition and am still waiting to hear from them i have had the eye screening just last week and will have repeat bloods in may and now they say i have a lazy thyroid i also have other medical conditions like Asthma Severe arthritis Secondary polycythemia and have to have a pint of blood taken every 4 to 8 weeks and take a lot of different medication confused at what i am to do thanks
 

DevonVee

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Type of diabetes
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Diet only
Hi
I was only diagnosed before xmas but I got a meter after metformin of both types made me violently ill.
The NHS will not give type 2 meters because it is too expensive. You do need one if you want to get control of your blood sugar. It will help you work out which carbs you can tolerate .
Yes it can be a bit obsessive to begin with but once you know what upsets you you don't need to test all the time.
The course you will go on will tell you to eat carbs. Bad idea. Many on this forum treat t2 as carb intolerance. Your levels will improve if you get rid of refined carbs. If you want to get control you will need to look at everything you eat for a while.
It can be done. I have lost 10lbs in 2 months which has been impossible for the last 25 years.
My Hba1c has gone down from 53to47. Read lots of the threads and you will get lots of help. Ask questions. People are really helpful.
 

Brunneria

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Hi and Welcome Kitty.

Don't worry, the diagnosis is always a shock. We get bombarded with info, and then sent off to wait for the next appointment. It can feel a bit like hanging in limbo.

Take your time. Deep breaths. It can feel overwhelming, but if you just keep reading the forum and letting the info absorb in its own time, you will get to grips with it before you know it. :)

@daisy1 will be along soon and post some nice clear info for you.

Oh, and you get to choose whether to test or not. If you want to, you can buy your own meter and test strips. If you would prefer not to, then no one will make you. I chose to buy a meter, and tested my blood glucose a lot for the first few months. Never got obsessive. But I did find it a great learning experience, and it helped me to learn what different foods were doing to my blood glucose, and it enabled me to get control of my blood glucose, and then my diabetes.

If you decide to get one, we can give you advice on the cheaper brands, but it is always your choice. :)
 

Celticboy

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi
I was only diagnosed before xmas but I got a meter after metformin of both types made me violently ill.
The NHS will not give type 2 meters because it is too expensive. You do need one if you want to get control of your blood sugar. It will help you work out which carbs you can tolerate .
Yes it can be a bit obsessive to begin with but once you know what upsets you you don't need to test all the time.
The course you will go on will tell you to eat carbs. Bad idea. Many on this forum treat t2 as carb intolerance. Your levels will improve if you get rid of refined carbs. If you want to get control you will need to look at everything you eat for a while.
It can be done. I have lost 10lbs in 2 months which has been impossible for the last 25 years.
My Hba1c has gone down from 53to47. Read lots of the threads and you will get lots of help. Ask questions. People are really helpful.
I know how you feel.just been diagnosed myself and it's all so very confusing and scary .
You hang in there and you will get the better of it .
Good luck
 

Vaper

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Type 1
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Insulin
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Not being in control
Hi I'm type1 but was treated as type 2 for nearly a year you should ask for a gad blood test this will confirm your type. I was told all the same things as you, not needed, will become obsessive. I was told eat what you like but portion Control. 1 third meat etc... 1 third carbs potato/ chips etc and 1 third veg. You have to watch the snacking but you can reward yourself with the occasional treat. Also told 3 meals a day, I used to skip breakfast but since being diagnosed I never skip meals now. It takes time to adjust and at first you will feel deprived but it gets easier. For me I never eat after 8pm as I don't like to inject less than 3 hrs before bed. Keep asking questions this group is fantastic at supporting people.
 
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Hiitsme

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Hi and welcome @Kitty1959
When Daisy posts take time to go through it and ask any questions and people will try and help.
I found a meter the most helpful aid to getting control. I was given a meter and told to test and it was testing before a meal and 2 hours after that showed me what my body could cope with and what was better avoided. As the strips can be expensive it's a good idea to check their prices before buying. The cheapest strips that people on here have found are the SD codefree or the Tee2. If you are interested people will post details.
 
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Art Of Flowers

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I reversed my Type 2
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It is wise to get yourself a blood glucose meter so you can see which foods spike your blood sugars. When I was diagnosed last November I had a blood glucose level of 13.1 and HbA1C of 99. I started by cutting out foods with lots of sugar such as breakfast cereals and orange juice. By the time I saw the diabetes nurse a few weeks later my blood glucose had dropped to 9.8.

I cut of carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, rice, pasta and my fasting blood glucose has dropped steadily until now usually around 6-7. I found the video by Sarah Hallberg very informative about which types of food we need to eat. I suggest you take a look.
 

Kitty1959

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi and welcome @Kitty1959
When Daisy posts take time to go through it and ask any questions and people will try and help.
I found a meter the most helpful aid to getting control. I was given a meter and told to test and it was testing before a meal and 2 hours after that showed me what my body could cope with and what was better avoided. As the strips can be expensive it's a good idea to check their prices before buying. The cheapest strips that people on here have found are the SD codefree or the Tee2. If you are interested people will post details.
Hi and thank you yes i would like to know what sort of glucose meter and strips to get if you have the time it seems to me its ok for doctors to say dont worry but that is easy said then done am already following slimming world and dont even like sweet things so dont really understand how i have diabetes and i am reading all the forums and slowly learning more only thing makes me wonder is 10 yrs ago i had gallblader removed and had life threatening pancreatitis and colio cystitis could that have been the start of all my problems
 

AndBreathe

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@Kitty1959 - Do you know what your blood score was that led to your diabetes diagnosis? It would either be expressed as a number, like 62, for example, or as a percentage 7.1%, again, for example.

Is your polycythaemia a knock-on from your asthma? The fact that you have polycythaemia can lead to blood results needing careful interpretation, due to your unusually higher levels of red blood cells. I'm assuming that's why you have blood drawn off every few weeks?
 

Hiitsme

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The SD codefree
http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/blood-glucose-monitor/
You need to tick box to day you are diabetic as then you don't pay VAT
Comes with 10 strips and 10 lancets so would need to buy more.
There are discount codes to you buy strips in bulk
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833

Tee2
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
The meter is free and so is the cable and CD - you would only need to but extra strips and lancets. It comes with 10 of each so you would need to order more to begin with. Reports on this site seem to suggest people are happy with it.

Once I got my diabetes under control I was no longer given strips on prescription so I bought the SD codefree. I think the Tee2 is fairly new and I have now got one and it seems to read about the same as the SD codefree. I think the Tee2 might be a good starting point as meter and extras are free - only need to order extra strips and lancets, both reasonably priced. You again need to say you're diabetic as then you don't pay VAT/

I wanted to keep monitoring as I want to keep control though I don't test as much now.

I would think that having pancreatitis is likely to have caused problems. Sorry I don't have any experience of this but others on the forum have.
 

Resurgam

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If you notice that you are becoming absent minded or forgetful, stop taking the statin. I persevered for several weeks too long and have lost a lot of memories and the ability to concentrate, learning new things is not as bad as it was, but still so slow compared to what I could do before.
I had lots of side effects with both the Metformin and the Atorvastatin, and stopped taking both, but my low carb diet has put all my blood tests into the just about normal range - so it was all a waste of time and anguish.
 

Liam1955

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Hello @Celticboy and Welcome to the Forum :). @daisy1 will provide you with some basic information for New Members.
 
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daisy1

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@Kitty1959

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why :)
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Kitty1959

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Type of diabetes
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@Kitty1959 - Do you know what your blood score was that led to your diabetes diagnosis? It would either be expressed as a number, like 62, for example, or as a percentage 7.1%, again, for example.

Is your polycythaemia a knock-on from your asthma? The fact that you have polycythaemia can lead to blood results needing careful interpretation, due to your unusually higher levels of red blood cells. I'm assuming that's why you have blood drawn off every few weeks?
about 2yrs ago i was told i was borderline diabetic and that was all i was told nothing more then i started having really bad head in the mornings and ear problems so had some tests done ie blood tests and was asked to see doctor and was told i am type 2 diabetic and because i had so many symtoms she was not going to wait the normal 3 months but starting me on medication there and then and am not sure but i think she said it was over 50 at the time but i was in shock and asked no questions and had no clue what to ask or say to be honest and yes i have 2 many red blood cells sorry if am rabbiting on
 

Liam1955

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Hello @Kitty1959 - I was officially diagnosed in the year 2000 with Type 2 Diabetes. 2 years previous (1998) I was told then that I was "Borderline". It was only when I attended a 1 day Diabetes "get together" organised by a Specialist Diabetes Nurse at my local Hospital, I was told by him: "You either have Diabetes or you don't, there is no such thing as 'Borderline'!! Had I known then what I know now - I might have got it under control and never become Type 2? :)
 

Kitty1959

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hello @Kitty1959 - I was officially diagnosed in the year 2000 with Type 2 Diabetes. 2 years previous (1998) I was told then that I was "Borderline". It was only when I attended a 1 day Diabetes "get together" organised by a Specialist Diabetes Nurse at my local Hospital, I was told by him: "You either have Diabetes or you don't, there is no such thing as 'Borderline'!! Had I known then what I know now - I might have got it under control and never become Type 2? :)
Hi @Liam1955 same here if i had been made aware at the time how dangerous it was to ignore then maybe today would have been different story
 
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Maggie/Magpie

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Hi and welcome to the forum.
Keep posting and asking any questions you want, were all here to help and support you, your not on your own.
 
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Liam1955

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Hello @Kitty1959 - I see from you first post that you are on Metformin. Most people take to Metformin, It may cause some people to suffer with an upset stomach and/or diarrhoea, especially if taken on an empty stomach. The good news is that these symptoms usually go away after a few weeks. But, always take the Metformin with food or just after and drink plenty of water.
Have a good read of the information posted above from daisy1 and don't be afraid to ask questions. Everyone is friendly on here.
Having Blood Glucose Meter is vital in controlling your Diabetes and I see that @Hiitsme (in another posting above) has given you all the relevant information on the most popular meters.