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Rosiegough_

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since i was told I have diabetes t2 last thurs my depression and anxiety, which previously has been under control has reared its ugly head again My sleep has been nil to a few hours if very lucky. Last night at 4am after still not getting to sleep I had a teacup of semi skimmed milk to try and help me finally get over. Is this bad? I know you can have butter and cream when cutting down on carbs
 

REM73

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since i was told I have diabetes t2 last thurs my depression and anxiety, which previously has been under control has reared its ugly head again My sleep has been nil to a few hours if very lucky. Last night at 4am after still not getting to sleep I had a teacup of semi skimmed milk to try and help me finally get over. Is this bad? I know you can have butter and cream when cutting down on carbs

Hey Rosie,
Tea is always a good idea and you should be fine, presuming no sugar added. I'm type 1 and drink 2-3 mugs every day. Also, a cuppa is a great comfort when things are tough. It's such a big thing to comprehend when you first get diagnosed, but you will get there. I'm a few months in and things are definitely improving.
There are lots of fab people on this forum and we all cheer each other's successes, there's lots of practical advice too and all from people who know exactly what you are going through.
Really hope things start to feel better soon and you get some sleep and enjoy the cuppa as you need it.
Sending you a bag of hugs, use as you need them.
x
 
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Robkww

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Hi @Rosiegough_ I couldn't agree more with @REM73 . I'm a Type 2 diagnosed in October 2016 and since taking advice from this forum and the good people on it my health has improved in so many ways since - weight, cholesterol and blood sugar to name three. On reflection, my Type 2 diagnosis was a blessing in disguise and there are lots of others on here who feel the same. Don't get down about your situation, give yourself a chance to learn a bit about the condition and the steps you can take to improve matters - have another hug!
 

Rosiegough_

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Diet only
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Evil beings. Destroying our beautiful Planet X
And a small cup of just milk?
 

Rosiegough_

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Diet only
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Hi @Rosiegough_ I couldn't agree more with @REM73 . I'm a Type 2 diagnosed in October 2016 and since taking advice from this forum and the good people on it my health has improved in so many ways since - weight, cholesterol and blood sugar to name three. On reflection, my Type 2 diagnosis was a blessing in disguise and there are lots of others on here who feel the same. Don't get down about your situation, give yourself a chance to learn a bit about the condition and the steps you can take to improve matters - have another hug!
And it's ok to have a small cup of milk?
 

Geordie_P

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I don't take milk any more, but I believe those who do say full-fat is better for diabetics than semi-skimmed. Of course you may have other reasons for semi-skimmed, but it might be worth looking into drinking the full stuff: it would fit better into a low-carb lifestyle.
 
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AM1874

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Diet only
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since i was told I have diabetes t2 last thurs my depression and anxiety, which previously has been under control has reared its ugly head again My sleep has been nil to a few hours if very lucky. Last night at 4am after still not getting to sleep I had a teacup of semi skimmed milk to try and help me finally get over. Is this bad? I know you can have butter and cream when cutting down on carbs
Hi @Rosiegough_ .. and welcome
I was in the same position as you and many others when I was diagnosed T2 in early Feb .. shocked and scared with no information and no idea what was happening to me. Since joining this forum, though, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need .. It's still early for me but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly

Managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day, seems to be working .. I have lost a stone and a half since my diagnosis and my BG levels are down from 12.5 to around 6. There is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum .. and this would include drinking full fat milk instead of semi-skimmed

You will soon be contacted by @daisy1 and I would suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the valuable information that she will be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following websites ...
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds
Low Carb 10-week Programme

When you are considering testing, try the website at: https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/ for the SD Codefree meter or: http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/ who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free. The costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. I'm testing 3-4 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I will be able to manage them
Hope this helps
 
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Kezroz

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi @Rosiegough i was diagnosed on tuesday, and i also suffer bad anxiety, and just like you i havent slept well since, i work night shifts, and was going into a 10hr shift with only a few hrs sleep each day, its difficult to settle when your heads filled with uncertainties and what the future has in store, but finding your way onto her does help, i found eating and drinking makes me calm down more, and i have settled down a little more with each passing day, you,ll be ok dont worry, as time goes on and some will power it will get easier. Take care for now.
 

daisy1

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Tablets (oral)
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@Rosiegough_

Hello Rosie and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why :)
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Robkww

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And it's ok to have a small cup of milk?

Of course it is. In time you need to get a glucose meter and understand from testing how different foodstuffs and drinks affect your blood sugar levels but these are early days and we are all in a bit of a marathon, not a sprint. Start by reading the information from @daisy1 and ask as many questions of the forum members as you like. Importantly, as the good advice from @Kezroz, please continue to eat and drink. Take each day as it comes and take the time to adjust your diet once you learn a bit more. Take good care of yourself.
 
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