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Bluetit1802

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Hello and welcome,

Briefly, fats and protein fill you up. Carbohydrates raise blood sugar levels and make you hungry. So a diet low in carbs, normal protein, and enough fats to maintain energy levels and keep you from being hungry is the way to go. The major carbs to drastically reduce or avoid are rice, pasta, potatoes, bread, cereals and anything made with flour.

I'll tag @daisy1 as she has useful information for newcomers.

Ask questions as often as you like.
 

AM1874

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Hi @markwoody .. and welcome
Not sure about which foods you should eat .. that's different strokes for different folks. What I am sure of, though, is that you have made the best move coming here. Since joining this forum the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need .. It's still early for me but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly ..

Managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I see that @Bluetit1802 has already tagged @daisy1 for you and I would suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following websites ...
Low Carb Intro and Information
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

Hope this helps
 
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daisy1

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@markwoody

Hello Mark and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members which should help to answer your question. Ask more questions when you need to.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Allessandra

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Now that I am off the carb & sugar train (it only took half a century and one diagnosis) I find it almost difficult to eat. My appetite has certainly diminished to the point that I really need to force myself to eat. I find a plate with a few slices of meat, cheese and grapes does the trick. My partner has started making green smoothies for me (blueberries, kale, cucumber, celery) so I think I am doing OK. Low carb is most definitely the way to go or at least that is what I have found.
 

Julia99

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Following the LCHF diet for 3 months brought my FBG down from 7.1 to 6.5 and HBA1C from 42 to 39. I have found I tolerate porridge fairly well, with little change to sugar levels. I have porridge when at work 4 days a week and then eggs, bacon, mushrooms or smoked salmon and eggs the other 3 days. Lunch is usually meat and salad and a small amount of cheese. Dinner is pretty much what I had previously as we always cooked from scratch, but now minus any potatoes, rice, pasta, bread etc. So veg/salad and meat/fish
 

Pinkorchid

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You don't need to change your diet that much just stop the sugar stuff but it can be helpful to your BG levels to eat smaller portions of the starchy stuff if you really feel you need pasta, rice, bread and potatoes. Some do not eat them at all some have Burgen Linseed and soya bread or Lidl protein rolls are good. Much of everything else is fine meat, fish, vegetables, salads, eggs, dairy stuff and some fruit. Some people can eat more types of foods than others. The fat question is still debatable some say high fat is good some prefer to go lower on the saturated fats but do what you think is right for you there are no rules
 

Resurgam

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I can't help with the filling up query - you might like to consider the difference between feeling hungry or not and having your stomach stretched due to the quantity of food in it - you might need to give up on the feeling of fullness and just go with the idea of having eaten enough.
You'll get quite a few people recommending eating low carb as many - myself included - have found that it brings back normal blood glucose readings, weightloss is another option, but for many it makes us feel better, more energetic and able to cope. It does go against much of the advice given about what is healthy, but for many that is how we got here in the first place.
 

markwoody

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i would like to thank everyone that got back to me. what food can i eat with type 2 diabets becuase i don't know what foods i should be eatting.
 

Bluetit1802

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i would like to thank everyone that got back to me. what food can i eat with type 2 diabets becuase i don't know what foods i should be eatting.

These links will answer your question.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/

Eat
meat, fish, oily fish, eggs, real full fat dairy foods except milk, tomatoes, mushrooms, avocados, olive oil, real mayonnaise, cheese, salads, green veggies such as cauliflower, kale, broccoli etc., bacon, 97% meat sausages, a few nuts as a snack, berries, tea, coffee, water, red wine in moderation.

Avoid or small portions only
sugar, sugary drinks, starchy foods (potatoes, rice, pasta, bread, pastry, flour), fruit except berries, beer

Use a meter to test before eating and again 2 hours after first bite. Look at the rise from before to after and try to keep this as low as possible, certainly under 2mmol/l Over 2mmol/l and there were too many carbs in that meal. Keeping a food diary including portion sizes helps with this. This is called eating to your meter, and is an excellent way of doing things