Liver Dump!!!!

[She22]

Took my blood on waking 6.9 got ready for work and took blood before breakfast 7.6!!!!!! What a difference!

 

[maria111979]

Quite strange. Where did the extra glucose come from?

 

[dancer]

That's nothing, mine can rise by 4

 

[Jaylee]

Took my blood on waking 6.9 got ready for work and took blood before breakfast 7.6!!!!!! What a difference!

Looks consistent to me. Allowing for a slight discrepancy with the actual meter.

 

[maria111979]

whats the exact reason for rise without any new food intake?

 

[Jaylee]

whats the exact reason for rise without any new food intake?

There isn't that much between 6.9 & 7.6mmol. It could just be the meter's interpretation of the BS reading..? Discrepancies don't just happen across seperate meters on a single sample. The same unit can vary a little too..
In this case the usual morning routine before work.. Which may have involed a hot beverage (or two.) with milk during the session?

Just an idea!?

 

[maria111979]

meters are said to be 95% accurate and the above difference is too big to be within the error limits of meter.

 

[Jaylee]

.... There's still the idea about the milk in the tea/coffee.

 

[maria111979]

understood

 

[tim2000s]

Meters have an allowable margin of error of 15%. Your two readings taken separately that are less than 15% apart are therefore not considered to be significantly different.

In addition, simply the act of getting up and moving around on an empty stomach usually causes glucagon to be released to cause the liver to create glucose to provide fuel.

Both of these are possible, but 6.9 to 7.6 is not significantly different enough to put down to anything other than being within the expected deviation of the reader.

There is also the basic tenet that two samples of blood are very unlikely to have the same glucose content (blood isn't homogenous after all) so it is likely to be natural variation.

 

[Robbity]

Quite strange. Where did the extra glucose come from?

From your liver giving you a helping hand to get you started in the morning energy wise.

I get a slight rise in the morning if I don't eat fairly quickly after waking. If I don't eat and do even lightish exercise of any sort then I can get a much larger dump.

Robbity

 

[maria111979]

Meters have an allowable margin of error of 15%. Your two readings taken separately that are less than 15% apart are therefore not considered to be significantly different.

In addition, simply the act of getting up and moving around on an empty stomach usually causes glucagon to be released to cause the liver to create glucose to provide fuel.

Both of these are possible, but 6.9 to 7.6 is not significantly different enough to put down to anything other than being within the expected deviation of the reader.

There is also the basic tenet that two samples of blood are very unlikely to have the same glucose content (blood isn't homogenous after all) so it is likely to be natural variation.

Thanks very well explained.

 

[fallongerie]

What is a liver dump? Sorry but slow of the mark here lol

 

[DavidGrahamJones]

What is a liver dump? Sorry but slow of the mark here lol

Dawn Phenomenon (Liver Dump) Dawn phenomenon occurs in the morning. Dawn phenomenon is the term given to an increase in blood sugar in the morning caused by the body's release of certain hormones. It is a relatively common phenomenon amongst diabetics.

More at: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/blood-glucose/dawn-phenomenon.html

 

[fallongerie]

Thank you x

 

[Alison Campbell]

Is the liver dumping glucose one of the reasons why a type 1 needs a background insulin?

 

[Bluetit1802]

Is the liver dumping glucose one of the reasons why a type 1 needs a background insulin?

We all have background (basal) insulin. The pancreas drip feeds insulin all day, 24/7, in small amounts as well as in big spurts when we eat. T1s don't have this luxury so need to inject basal to compensate.