New and confused

Russgee

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Type of diabetes
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Hi, I have been diagnosed in the last month, with a score? If 62, I am not quite sure if this is high or low. I have gone on a low carb diet which is reducing my weight( added benefit of extra energy and i have stopped snoring). I have refused pills for the first three months as I want to try diet and exercise, was i being foolish, do the drugs work? And lastly, until I think of another question, should i get a monitor and be checking my sugar levels? Hopefully soon to be less confused.
 
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Guzzler

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Yes, get a monitor! It will teach you about your blood glucose levels, how to lower them and which are your trigger foods. I shall tag @daisy1 who will swing by and provide loads of info for newbies.

Lowering your carb intake is key. Good work so far and great news on your weight loss.
 

emmacheasty

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Trying lifestyle modifications as a first step is a very sensible approach and a 3 month window is a sensible timeframe. If you are losing weight you are likely to see improvement to you longterm glucose ( HbA1c) and your body's resistance to the insulin you are producing which is a significant contributing factor in Type2 diabetes.
If long term blood sugar doesnt improve enough then you can consider starting oral medications....which do work ;) I wouldnt advise buying a glucose monitor for 2 reasons. 1 they are expensive and free at a diabetes specialist centre. 2 ( most importantly) if your sugar is a bit high... there is nothing you can do about it!..... not being on insulin injections ( a good thing)...there is nothing to adjust...so taking sugars = unpleasant finger pricks and no real use. Your doctor will be looking at your overall level when deciding if oral medication is suitable.

Hope this is helpful!
 

Russgee

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Trying lifestyle modifications as a first step is a very sensible approach and a 3 month window is a sensible timeframe. If you are losing weight you are likely to see improvement to you longterm glucose ( HbA1c) and your body's resistance to the insulin you are producing which is a significant contributing factor in Type2 diabetes.
If long term blood sugar doesnt improve enough then you can consider starting oral medications....which do work ;) I wouldnt advise buying a glucose monitor for 2 reasons. 1 they are expensive and free at a diabetes specialist centre. 2 ( most importantly) if your sugar is a bit high... there is nothing you can do about it!..... not being on insulin injections ( a good thing)...there is nothing to adjust...so taking sugars = unpleasant finger pricks and no real use. Your doctor will be looking at your overall level when deciding if oral medication is suitable.

Hope this is helpful!
Thank you!!
 

chalup

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Actually if your blood sugar is high as a type 2 on no medication there is a lot you can do about it. If you are testing you can see what individual foods do to your blood sugar and adjust your diet as needed. @Guzzler has tagged daisy for the newcomer info and this is the best place to start. A blood sugar meter is essential for good control and your fingers will be fine. They are not free to type 2's in the UK for the most part but I am sure someone will be along to give info on the most cost effective ones as I am not in the UK. It sounds like you are off to a great start.
 

Russgee

Member
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8
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Yes, get a monitor! It will teach you about your blood glucose levels, how to lower them and which are your trigger foods. I shall tag @daisy1 who will swing by and provide loads of info for newbies.

Lowering your carb intake is key. Good work so far and great news on your weight loss.
Thank You, Very Helpful
 

Resurgam

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As you are type two you will not get a meter unless you buy it yourself - if you are in the UK.
It is possible to get one fairly cheaply mail order, but the main expense is the strips - though once you get to know what sort of things you can eat then it is not necessary to test all the time.
The low carb diet seems to be a powerful tool in reversing diabetes, and can result in normal blood tests - though the stopping snoring is not an effect I have seen before, but it is a good one I'm sure and must be well appreciated by all within hearing.
Your Hba1c is not a drastic one, so you could well see significant change by your first retest. It is, however, your blood glucose which is being measured - weightloss is usually a result of controlled BG, but weightloss doesn't guarantee improvement.
 

daisy1

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@Russgee

Hello Russgee and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.



BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 258,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Rachox

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Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
If you do decide to get a meter the SD Code Free is £12ish plus the strips are some of the cheaper ones. I started with the starter kit from Amazon to get it quickly on Prime:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0...d+codefree&dpPl=1&dpID=51iTbplucgL&ref=plSrch
However you only get a few test strips and lancets. The best place for continuing supplies of strips and lancets is Homehealth:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/blood-glucose-test-strips/
Don’t forget to tick the box that says you have Diabetes then the VAT is taken off your charge.
I’ve succeeded in getting my HbA1c down to a non diabetic level and I have lost 4 stone by low carb eating and self monitoring. I’m sure you’ll manage too.

EDIT. Oopsie forgot the discount codes for the strips. You can use them multiple times:
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833
 

Kentoldlady1

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Messages
733
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Trying lifestyle modifications as a first step is a very sensible approach and a 3 month window is a sensible timeframe. If you are losing weight you are likely to see improvement to you longterm glucose ( HbA1c) and your body's resistance to the insulin you are producing which is a significant contributing factor in Type2 diabetes.
If long term blood sugar doesnt improve enough then you can consider starting oral medications....which do work ;) I wouldnt advise buying a glucose monitor for 2 reasons. 1 they are expensive and free at a diabetes specialist centre. 2 ( most importantly) if your sugar is a bit high... there is nothing you can do about it!..... not being on insulin injections ( a good thing)...there is nothing to adjust...so taking sugars = unpleasant finger pricks and no real use. Your doctor will be looking at your overall level when deciding if oral medication is suitable.

Hope this is helpful!


Sadly, most t2ds are not given monitors and we have no way of knowing if are lifestyle changes are helping or not. At my surgery the hbalc is done once every 6 months if the last check was low enough (I don't mean at non diabetic levels, just what nice consider low enough) . Once you have been t2d for a while and seem to be coping the checks drop to once a year. So we can trundle on thinking we are doing fine and not find out for 11 months that we are making a big mistake. Not all surgeries are the same, so it is worth asking for a monitor. The machines are not too pricey, but the strips can be, so do ask.

Also, there is a great deal we can do about a high bgl. One important thing will be to stop eating whatever gave yo the high bgl in the first place. Spikes in bgl may be damaging (there are a few threads about this) so you can have an ok hbalc but still have diabetic problems.

I have found my meter invaluable. I don't test anywhere near as much as I used to, but I would not be without it.

My advice? Get a meter, adjust your diet and have a look at family history. That last bit was really just for curiosity!! Once I was dx I had a good look at both sides of my family. Not a single t2d in my dads extended family and it was hard to find one in m mums family that DID'T have it. Fascinating.
 

bulkbiker

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Messages
19,575
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
I wouldnt advise buying a glucose monitor for 2 reasons. 1 they are expensive and free at a diabetes specialist centre. 2 ( most importantly) if your sugar is a bit high... there is nothing you can do about it!..... not being on insulin injections ( a good thing)...there is nothing to adjust...so taking sugars = unpleasant finger pricks and no real use. Your doctor will be looking at your overall level when deciding if oral medication is suitable.

Hope this is helpful!

Hi @Russgee
I would disagree 100% with this advice.
As others have said there are a lot of things you can do if your blood sugar is high if you are Type 2. The first and most important thing is to look at what you have eaten and learn from it so you don't go high again.
Walking is also useful for reducing blood glucose.
A whole heap of us have reduced our blood glucose levels by "eating to our meter" i.e. checking the blood sugar levels before we eat and 2 hours after we eat to identify which foods cause blood sugars to spike.
Like @Rachox above I would recommend the SD Codefree meter to use as a monitor as the test strips are the cheapest (and in the early days you will use a lot!).

I would suggest also that rather than relying solely on your doctor you learn as much as you can about Type 2 and take control of your own health. You are the one with Type 2 not your doctor.

Great that you want to control by diet alone and it is achievable especially if your Type 2 is caught relatively early. An HbA1c of 62 is not amazingly high so I reckon by your next test by following a low carb diet you should be able to bring it down quite a lot.
 

Russgee

Member
Messages
8
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Thank you, everyone,it has been more help than I ever expected, just ordered a codefree meter sort of looking forward to trying it, I expect that will wear off quickly.
 

Grateful

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Messages
1,398
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Welcome! Well done for the progress you have made so far. This is a great place for support and information.