Alcohol in Moderation

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Good advice for us tipplers :) Also congrats on the low carb diet - so much better then a low fat. Finally, excellent to see a reference to a gerund!!!
What gerund ?
 

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What gerund ?

buying standard bottles (750ml) then decanting

I think.
I had to go and look it up and now I have a headache.
 

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I drink occasionally, because I'd rather drink wine than fruit juice. Wine, since it is fermented, is great for gut health and digestion, and dry wine is low in carbs. Red wine is full of antioxydants, which can be beneficial when consumed in moderation.

I used to drink tons of fruit juice and judge wine drinkers. I know better now.
 

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I drink occasionally, because I'd rather drink wine than fruit juice. Wine, since it is fermented, is great for gut health and digestion, and dry wine is low in carbs. Red wine is full of antioxydants, which can be beneficial when consumed in moderation.

I used to drink tons of fruit juice and judge wine drinkers. I know better now.

Same as me, and for the same reasons.
 
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I'm a wine drinker, red only, so virtually carb-free. After diagnosis I gave it up almost completely because of the calories and I wanted to lose weight, not because of my blood sugars. Once the weight had all gone I used it to help increase my calories in order to stop losing weight and maintain. That was 3 years ago. My weight has maintained, my blood sugars have normalised.
Red wine is on the list of stuff to eat/drink to keep the heart healthy, so I keep drinking it daily, but in moderation most of the time!
Yes, we are all different, but you 'n' me sound quite alike when it comes to red wine deal - blood sugars stable, don't drink after couple lunch-time ones, although weekends can be a bottle sometimes
 
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Trying to find low carb meals when eating out.
Eased back into wine and spirits yesterday.
So far so good; BG a little lower and weight a little lower.
Now for a week of trend analysis before proving that beer is bad for you.:(
 

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buying standard bottles (750ml) then decanting.

Just back from the Thanksgiving holiday and honestly can't remember which gerund was missing, but I think you spotted the right one (it probably originally said "buy" when it should have been "buying"). On another thread, someone rightly suggested that when we edit a post later, we should say why ... so I did!:D
 
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Best to give it up. Why take the risk...For a moment I thought that non alcoholic wines would be a good substitute. However, it turns out even with them there's a couple of issues:

1) good alcohol free wines start off with alcohol - and then it's extracted later - however leaving trace amounts
2) it's still got the same sugar content, or higher...
 
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I actually miss the odd bottle of wine now and again and sad to say i liked the bubbly sort and white wine. Trust me. But red gives me a massive headache so can't have it. This week however i threw caution to the wind and we had white wine but the dry verity. Haven't checked the bloods after as i didn't want to know.:facepalm:
 

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I was a social drinker originally (no binge drinking, I liked the occasional glass of dry white wine, champagne, beer or a good Scotch whiskey). I gave up all alcohol a few years ago because I have GERD (gastroesophageal reflux disease).

A single glass of wine would mean 2 days of pain and no sleep. My GI told me that alcohol relaxes the stomach valve (which doesn't work properly for me) and allows the stomach acid to flow upwards (he says the first recommendation he makes to people with GERD is to stop drinking alcohol.) I stopped immediately. I do miss the taste but I don't miss the horrible heartburn, pain and inflammation.
 
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Some interesting ideas, there, I'll toss in a couple of things that have occurred to me. The first thing to say is that Mrs h-c and I have never drunk during the week: having to get up at the crack of dawn just isn't any fun if you're feeling bleary and befuddled from the night before, particularly if you've got to go to work, so we've always restricted our drinking to the weekend. I have calculated that, in doing this, I probably average about 10 - 12 units per week. I can see the DN raising a sceptical eyebrow when I say this to her at my reviews, but I'm pretty sure it's an accurate estimate and in doing this we never got into the habit of pouring a drink every evening, which makes it much easier to be restrained.

I like a glass of scotch, accompanied by a bit of water (for a single malt) or diet dry ginger (for the cheap supermarket blend that I normally drink). I used to just slosh some into a glass, so had little or no idea of the amount of alcohol that was imbibing. I now keep a 25 ml shot glass to hand, which holds roughly a pub measure; about 1 unit of alcohol. At first I thought the drink that resulted was a bit insipid but I've got used to it now, and it probably goes to show how much alcohol I was drinking before I started measuring it.

Having said all that, I love both Scotch and red wine, so I can't see myself ever giving up alcohol completely. What I have had to do is to give up dessert wines - which I used to love - and fortified wines like port and sherry, because of the high sugar content. I was never a great beer drinker, but I will occasionally have a bottle of Mexican lager, particularly if we're having a BBQ in the summer, which I know is not good from a carb point of view, but sometimes you've got to indulge a bit, haven't you?
But cramming 10 to 12 units into the weekend ;ain't heathy. Your livers will be working overtime and risk damage that way, to say nothing of other organs like the brain !!
 

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This is a paragraph from the postscript of Malcolm Kendrick's book, The Great Cholesterol Con.

If you don’t drink alcohol, start. If you do drink, drink regularly – don’t binge drink – and make sure you enjoy
what you drink. Drink with friends, drink sociably; don’t drink to get drunk.

Kendrick, Malcom. The Great Cholesterol Con: The Truth About What Really Causes Heart Disease and How to Avoid It (p. 266). John Blake Publishing. Kindle Edition.

His book is interesting, some of it I understand, but for some reason the paragraph above stood out.
The anti-oxidants in wine which are supposed to so god for us (and are used to explain the "French paradox) can be sourced from grape juices etc.
 

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I actually miss the odd bottle of wine now and again and sad to say i liked the bubbly sort and white wine. Trust me. But red gives me a massive headache so can't have it. This week however i threw caution to the wind and we had white wine but the dry verity. Haven't checked the bloods after as i didn't want to know.:facepalm:
And no doubt a good Tassie white !?
 

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I was a social drinker originally (no binge drinking, I liked the occasional glass of dry white wine, champagne, beer or a good Scotch whiskey). I gave up all alcohol a few years ago because I have GERD (gastroesophageal reflux disease).

A single glass of wine would mean 2 days of pain and no sleep. My GI told me that alcohol relaxes the stomach valve (which doesn't work properly for me) and allows the stomach acid to flow upwards (he says the first recommendation he makes to people with GERD is to stop drinking alcohol.) I stopped immediately. I do miss the taste but I don't miss the horrible heartburn, pain and inflammation.
I do not suppose GERD and gerund were confused earlier ?
 

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Please consider this all those who indulge. Yeasts are the bugs that work on the grape sugars etc to produce alcohol. Why to they do this ? For kicks ?
No, the alcohol is a toxin which they can tolerate but which keeps competing bugs away - Toxin defends their territory.
In us human beings ? The toxin, alcohol has some interesting effects which we like, just as in bird and animal species. (ever seen birds feed on rotting fruit and appear less adept at flying afterward)?
Alcohol as a toxin affects virtually every part of us humans, some parts like liver and brain more that others. Search me how one can determine safe limits but the official line is limits of 4 units for men per day and 2 for the ladies. And nil in pregnancy. And cramming 7 x 4 or 2 units into a weekend is cheating !!!
In Australia we 'lay claim' to a sad statistic. A high proportion of juvenile offenders in remand and prison suffer from foetal-alcohol syndrome, a condition caused by their mothers imbibing excessive alcohol during pregnancy.
You can get the anti-oxidants of wine in grape juice. I agree how one deals with the carbs is an issue. ? Tablets ? other innovations. Spirits are used to kill bugs, think methylated spirits. Do you think about such liquor scorching your gut as you drink it?
I just ask people to think about it. Moderate your toxic intake and remember that alcohol stops the liver being able to release stored glucose in the situation of a hypo.
 
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I do not suppose GERD and gerund were confused earlier ?
Not by me :) (I'm a retired librarian who has also worked as a teacher). For those who asked - a gerund is a verb (action word) that' ends in ing and is used as a noun. Some examples - Exercising is good for my blood sugar. (Exercising is the gerund.) I love shopping for shoes. (shopping is the gerund. love is the verb.) She's tired of driving the car. (driving is the gerund.)

 
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Not by me :) (I'm a retired librarian who has also worked as a teacher). For those who asked - a gerund is a verb (action word) that' ends in ing and is used as a noun. Some examples - Exercising is good for my blood sugar. (Exercising is the gerund.) I love shopping for shoes. (shopping is the gerund. love is the verb.) She's tired of driving the car. (driving is the gerund.)

So is GERDing the action verb for reflux ???) And could it be called an acronymic gerund? (apologies to the English language )!!!
 

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I have the odd gin and slimline but have recently discovered Seedlip. It is carb free, sugar free, calorie free etc. Mixed with lime tonic it tasted like one of those specialist gins. Unfortunately it is around the same price but I don’t feel I’m missing out now.
 

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<snip> or a good Scotch whiskey). <snip>

Mr. Picky raises his ugly head.

You can drink a good Irish or American whiskey, but anything labelled as a Scotch Whiskey is a fake
It is Scotch Whisky without the "e". :cool:
Sunglasses for the hangover.:rolleyes: