10.6 reading an hour after dinner

cherrydarling_

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Hi I'm not sure if I'm in the right place (tourist!) Long story short...Had gestational diabetes 2 years ago. Had routine blood test Friday, got phone call this afternoon to say blood test shows 'probably diabetes' (docs words) go up straight away with urine sample. Did that but she wanted me to wait (she had patient with her) while she tested but had to come home for daughter coming in from school. Still waiting (since 3pm) to hear back from doc. Decided to test blood sugar levels and got a 10.6 one hour after eating. Questions are: can doc be right with just blood test result? And does 10.6 indicate diabetes? Thanks for reading
 
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sally and james

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As far as I know, T2 diabetes is usually diagnosed with a blood test, an HbA1c, which is a sort of average of blood sugars over the past three months. A second test is done if the first is borderline. I'm surprised to hear that your Doc wants a urine test, but perhaps someone will correct me on this or there is a particular reason for it.
None of us here can diagnose diabetes, but 10.6 after a meal is raised. You don't say what you ate. I would be inclined to agree with your Doc and say, "probably diabetes", but not definite at this stage. You are, however, at risk, so I will tag @daisy1 for newcomer's information, which should begin to answer some of the many questions you are likely to have.
Sally
 

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I would suggest u to try check ur BG 2 hrs after meal instead of 1 hour. Thats the correct postmeal reading. I can be at 10 an hour after meal but back to 5 2 hours post meal. X
 
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I would suggest u to try check ur BG 2 hrs after meal instead of 1 hour. Thats the correct postmeal reading. I can be at 10 an hour after meal but back to 5 2 hours post meal. X

Just curious, why is the 2 hours post meal seen as the standard?
 

cherrydarling_

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@sally and james for dinner I ate a small roast chicken dinner with 2 small roast potatoes lots of veg and some chicken. I'm still waiting to hear from my doctor.
@miszu I tested again just now (two hours+ after eating) and it's now 11.8 I'm not sure what to make of it all
 

cherrydarling_

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@Alison Campbell it's so frustrating! I'm thinking she's keeping me waiting because I didn' wait at the surgery for her to test it! Checked and all strips still in date. And I'm becoming obsessed I think(even though I've no idea if they're good/bad!) just checked levels again and I had 9.8. Guess I'll have to wait til morning now
 

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The correct way to test a meal is to test just as you are starting your meal, to get a baseline, then test 1 hour afterwards, this will be your peak, then test again at 2 hours, where you should be back to your starting number. You want only a 2 point rise at 1 hour. So if you start at 6.4, at one hour you would like to be 6.6 or lower, then back to 6.4 at 2 hours.

If you spike more than 2 points, so say from 6.4 to 8.3 at 1 hour, then you know something in your meal doesn't agree with you, so you will have to work out what that is and not eat it again.
 
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@cherrydarling_

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here, in case you should need it, is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 259,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of them are free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
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cherrydarling_

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I honestly don' know what to think. Doc calls yesterday with 'probably have diabetes, bring sample up urgently'. Phoned this morning for results/advice and there's nothing in my notes. No 'everything's fine', no 'you need to come in to discuss. ..' nothing. I'm left in limbo til someone calls me after 430, at my request!
 

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I honestly don' know what to think. Doc calls yesterday with 'probably have diabetes, bring sample up urgently'. Phoned this morning for results/advice and there's nothing in my notes. No 'everything's fine', no 'you need to come in to discuss. ..' nothing. I'm left in limbo til someone calls me after 430, at my request!
 

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I honestly don' know what to think. Doc calls yesterday with 'probably have diabetes, bring sample up urgently'. Phoned this morning for results/advice and there's nothing in my notes. No 'everything's fine', no 'you need to come in to discuss. ..' nothing. I'm left in limbo til someone calls me after 430, at my request!

Have you heard anything yet?
If not, why not make an appointment and ask for the test results, and a proper discussion of why they have tested/not called you in?

Good luck, and please let us know how you get on?
 
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Kristin251

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The correct way to test a meal is to test just as you are starting your meal, to get a baseline, then test 1 hour afterwards, this will be your peak, then test again at 2 hours, where you should be back to your starting number. You want only a 2 point rise at 1 hour. So if you start at 6.4, at one hour you would like to be 6.6 or lower, then back to 6.4 at 2 hours.

If you spike more than 2 points, so say from 6.4 to 8.3 at 1 hour, then you know something in your meal doesn't agree with you, so you will have to work out what that is and not eat it again.
My peak is, and always has been at or after two hours. That’s from vlc high fat and moderate protein.
 

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I peak after two hours as well, but most non-diabetic people would not peak above 7-8 at all, probably less (though not many studies have been done). Definitely chase this up with your doctor, and if you haven't already request an HbA1C
 
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cherrydarling_

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Sorry for late reply heads been up my backside! Doc called me and said definitely diabetes, probably type 2 as sample showed sugar too. I now have to wait til Tuesday to see the diabetes 'specialist' (turns out it's just a different doctor!) But I am testing my levels and recording them as (if I remember rightly) they're a bit high (average 8.something on waking and 11.8 after eating) so I shall be taking those with me.
 

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Thanks for letting us know, and good luck with the appt on Tuesday.
In the meantime, try not to get too stressed :) (easier said than done, I know!)
 

cherrydarling_

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@Brunneria stressed isn't the word at the minute, I'm completely over the edge did my before meal reading and got 5.8, tested an hour later and got 12.5 then an hour later got 14.8 I've never felt so ****, I just lay on the couch and the next thing it was 3 hours later! I'm a natural worrier, and this reading has given me severe anxiety
 

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@Brunneria stressed isn't the word at the minute, I'm completely over the edge did my before meal reading and got 5.8, tested an hour later and got 12.5 then an hour later got 14.8 I've never felt so ****, I just lay on the couch and the next thing it was 3 hours later! I'm a natural worrier, and this reading has given me severe anxiety

Hi Cherry,

I'm recently diagnosed myself and I know exactly how you feel. Some important things to remember:

1) Diabetes is a marathon, not a sprint. Right now you have test results that are upsetting you, but you won't be able to change them right away. It will take a bit of time to get them down (probably less than you think) but there's no use in panicking before you know the way forward. Make sure you're eating enough but take some steps right now that will make a difference - if you eat crisps, or sweets or other junk food cut them out. It will have an appreciable impact on your numbers and you will feel a whole lot better. Save any more drastic dietary changes until you've seen your doctor and can understand diabetes a bit better.

2) Understanding diabetes is the really important thing - not just that you have high blood sugar after eating, but why you do. You've already got a meter which is fantastic, and over time you will learn what foods you can safely eat, and which ones will spike you. The people on this forum are a wealth of information and so friendly - listen to their experiences, weigh up what they say, and work out a plan that you can stick to. It won't be long before you see results! I, and many others here, have gotten down to non-diabetic numbers through diet alone (although some medications can help you along with that).

3) Management or even reversal to non-diabetic numbers is totally possible. While having diabetes is awful in a lot of ways, once you feel like you're getting a handle on it, it can become much less onerous. Personally, I have lost a ton of weight following a low carb diet, and feel better than I have in years. Would I rather not have T2D? Of course! But getting this diagnosis has spurred me into making improvements all over my life.

4) Diabetes requires a lot of self-management. Listen to your doctor, and discuss it with them - but also find out everything you can about the condition and use your own experience to tweak your treatment. You are also entitled to regular check-ups for diabetic complications, and may even be able to get supplies on the NHS (though that's not been my experience).

5) The most important thing is you're not alone. There are thousands of people here who know what you're going through. Don't be afraid to open up here and talk about it. Having diabetes can be lonely and frustrating, but there are people here who are willing to help, if you ask them to.
 
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