Type 2 I wake up to throbbing headaches at night

Mandi05

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62
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi guys! I’m so glad I found this place. It’s so helpful. I was diagnosed with Type 2 four days before Christmas, so you can imagine I’m still working on coming to terms with everything. I’m on metformin 500g twice daily. I had blood tests yesterday(after 3 weeks) so I’m waiting for the results.
For three nights now I have been waking up in the middle of the night with a pounding headache and it’s really scary. At the moment I don’t really understand much so I panic because I don’t know whether my BG are over or below. Should I grab something to eat or not? Or just down some water or what? This is definitely going to be a long and bumpy road for me Help!!!!
 

Rachox

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I reversed my Type 2
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Hi Mandi and welcome to the Forum. You’ve come to the right place,
First let me tag in @daisy1 who’ll post loads of useful links to info for you. Your sentence that jumps out at me is “I don’t know if my BG is over or below”. Most of us here advocate self testing so that we know what our blood sugars are. Many NHS staff don’t support this so you’ll probably have to fund a meter and test strips yourself but it means you’re not in the dark about your levels. As you are only on Metformin you are very unlikely to go hypo (low blood sugar), your headaches are more likely to be because you are hyper (high).
Any way ask any questions you want, there’s always someone around to help to make your road less bumpy. I got my Type 2 under control with help from this fantastic forum.
 
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Bluetit1802

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Hello and welcome aboard,

What you need is your own blood glucose meter. Then you can check what your levels are whenever you are feeling rough and be in a position to decide if you need to take action, and what action to take. Unless you know your levels no-one here can advise you what to do. You don't even know if your awful headaches are diabetes related. They could be symptoms of anything.

With a meter you can also discover which foods affect your levels and have the chance to change some of them. This is called eating to your meter, and is very beneficial in controlling this disease,.

The most popular meters for self funding T2's are the Codefree and the Tee2 because the strips are much cheaper than other meters, and you need a lot of strips. You can't buy them in pharmacies.

Try here for the Codefree meter
http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/blood-glucose-monitor/

and here for the extra strips
http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/sd-codefree-test-strips-to-be-used-only-with-the-sd-monitor/

There are discount codes if you buy in bulk.
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833

The Tee2 is here and the meter is free.
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/

Don’t forget to check the box that you have diabetes so you can buy VAT free. (for either meter)
 
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Goacher55

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Type of diabetes
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Hi guys! I’m so glad I found this place. It’s so helpful. I was diagnosed with Type 2 four days before Christmas, so you can imagine I’m still working on coming to terms with everything. I’m on metformin 500g twice daily. I had blood tests yesterday(after 3 weeks) so I’m waiting for the results.
For three nights now I have been waking up in the middle of the night with a pounding headache and it’s really scary. At the moment I don’t really understand much so I panic because I don’t know whether my BG are over or below. Should I grab something to eat or not? Or just down some water or what? This is definitely going to be a long and bumpy road for me Help!!!!

Hey I was finally diagnosed on Christmas Eve quite done years ago now but I remember the day
 

daisy1

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@Mandi05

Hello Mandi and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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Mandi05

Well-Known Member
Messages
62
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi Mandi and welcome to the Forum. You’ve come to the right place,
First let me tag in @daisy1 who’ll post loads of useful links to info for you. Your sentence that jumps out at me is “I don’t know if my BG is over or below”. Most of us here advocate self testing so that we know what our blood sugars are. Many NHS staff don’t support this so you’ll probably have to fund a meter and test strips yourself but it means you’re not in the dark about your levels. As you are only on Metformin you are very unlikely to go hypo (low blood sugar), your headaches are more likely to be because you are hyper (high).
Any way ask any questions you want, there’s always someone around to help to make your road less bumpy. I got my Type 2 under control with help from this fantastic forum.

Hi Rachox thank you. I was discouraged to test at home but I will definitely get the glucose meter. Thank you.
 

Rachox

Oracle
Retired Moderator
Messages
15,881
Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi Rachox thank you. I was discouraged to test at home but I will definitely get the glucose meter. Thank you.
Good move to get a meter. There is a free one available, the name escapes me just now!
I wouldn't necessarily obtain a free one as the ongoing expense of the test strips is actually more important. I got the SD Code Free starter pack from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Codefree-G...F8&qid=1500495764&sr=8-3&keywords=sd+codefree

I get supplies of strips and lancets direct from Home Health using the following discount codes for the strips if you buy in bulk:

5 packs 264086

10 packs 975833

https://homehealth-uk.com/my-account/

Don't forget to check the box stating you have diabetes and the VAT is deducted
 

Billy7764

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Messages
98
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Welcome to the forum, my headaches are normally from dehydration so it helps to drink plenty of water.
 

Mandi05

Well-Known Member
Messages
62
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Good move to get a meter. There is a free one available, the name escapes me just now!
I wouldn't necessarily obtain a free one as the ongoing expense of the test strips is actually more important. I got the SD Code Free starter pack from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Codefree-G...F8&qid=1500495764&sr=8-3&keywords=sd+codefree

I get supplies of strips and lancets direct from Home Health using the following discount codes for the strips if you buy in bulk:

5 packs 264086

10 packs 975833

https://homehealth-uk.com/my-account/

Don't forget to check the box stating you have diabetes and the VAT is deducted

Thanks a lot
 

Mandi05

Well-Known Member
Messages
62
Type of diabetes
Type 2
@Mandi05

Hello Mandi and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.

Thanks a lot
 

Mandi05

Well-Known Member
Messages
62
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hello and welcome aboard,

What you need is your own blood glucose meter. Then you can check what your levels are whenever you are feeling rough and be in a position to decide if you need to take action, and what action to take. Unless you know your levels no-one here can advise you what to do. You don't even know if your awful headaches are diabetes related. They could be symptoms of anything.

With a meter you can also discover which foods affect your levels and have the chance to change some of them. This is called eating to your meter, and is very beneficial in controlling this disease,.

The most popular meters for self funding T2's are the Codefree and the Tee2 because the strips are much cheaper than other meters, and you need a lot of strips. You can't buy them in pharmacies.

Try here for the Codefree meter
http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/blood-glucose-monitor/

and here for the extra strips
http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/sd-codefree-test-strips-to-be-used-only-with-the-sd-monitor/

There are discount codes if you buy in bulk.
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833

The Tee2 is here and the meter is free.
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/

Don’t forget to check the box that you have diabetes so you can buy VAT free. (for either meter)

Thanks a lot
 

Shahnaz2357

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Messages
286
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
@Mandi05
Hope you have got over your headaches. I am similarly having continuous headaches from the last three days....nothing helps a painkiller or drinking loads of water.
Am on 500mg Glucophage twice a day and was diagnosed 5 months ago but the headaches are a recent development. Wonder what can help *sigh*
 

Mandi05

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
@SZB2357

I’m sorry to hear you’re not well.
Same like you the headaches were not responding to any painkillers and my BGs were around 6-8mmols so in the end I went to the doctor’s and guess what, my blood pressure was 190/131 !!
I’m now on amlodipine and losatan potassium (blood pressure tablets) and I’m a lot better now.
This happened about 3 weeks after the diabetes diagnosis.
I would advise you to get checked because you never know what might be the cause of them headaches.
Hope you get well soon and please pay your GP a visit.
 
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Shahnaz2357

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@SZB2357

I’m sorry to hear you’re not well.
Same like you the headaches were not responding to any painkillers and my BGs were around 6-8mmols so in the end I went to the doctor’s and guess what, my blood pressure was 190/131 !!
I’m now on amlodipine and losatan potassium (blood pressure tablets) and I’m a lot better now.
This happened about 3 weeks after the diabetes diagnosis.
I would advise you to get checked because you never know what might be the cause of them headaches.
Hope you get well soon and please pay your GP a visit.

Thanks, @Mandi05, yes my headaches are not due to diabetes or blood pressure since I am also on Losartan potassium and Amlodipine from many years which maintains it at around 135/80... visited my Dr.... the headaches are a result of my neck vertebrae 5,6,7 which are inflamed..... am on more pills and neck exercises *sigh*
 
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