Mody 3

mlmac

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14
Type of diabetes
MODY
Treatment type
Insulin
INSULIN FREE

In the beginning

Imagine being 18 years old, just married, in my second year of nurse training when I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. My brother had been diagnosed a few years earlier so there was no question in any one’s mind regarding my diagnosis - thus began my love-hate relationship with having 4 insulin injections a day.

Now, it is 40 years on, or in type 1 terms, 58,400 injections later and my world was about to change.

For the past ten years I routinely trotted along to my diabetic specialist to hear the results of my HbA1c and how all the organs of my body were doing and ask the obligatory question “what new treatments are being developed?” – “nothing much, just a lot of fuss about glycaemic index”. The death of this specialist meant that I had to find someone else – along came Dr J.

Interview that changed my life

My first appointment was like a job interview; sit on the other side of his huge desk and answer a myriad of questions – “tell me all about yourself, your family, what diseases did they have, what do you know about your disease” on and on. I was pretty practiced after all these years so it just rolled out, not too hard.

I started to move around in my chair to leave when Dr J said, “I would really like to explore more about your family, can we do that?” – An hour later. I was able to identify that my grandfather, father, mother, three brothers and myself were all diagnosed with either type 1 or type 2 diabetes. “How interesting” he said, “have you ever heard of Maturity-Onset Diabetes of the Young – MODY?”

MODY is a gene mutation condition that causes failure of insulin secretion as opposed to the autoimmune destruction of beta cells associated with traditional type 1 diabetes. MODY is caused by a change in a single gene. So far 6 genes have been identified:

· HNF1A

· Glucokinase

· HNF1B (including Renal Cysts and Diabetes (RCAD))

· HNF4A

· IPF1

· NEUROD1


MODY can resemble ordinary type 1 diabetes, and one of the incentives for diagnosing it is that insulin may be discontinued or deferred in favour of oral sulfonylureas. Some people treated with insulin for years due to a presumption of type 1 diabetes have been able to switch to pills and discontinue injections.

I was intrigued and happy to think that maybe this routine thing – type 1 – which I had normalised into my day-to-day routine might not be as it seems– was I a MODY?

First I had some blood tests to see if it was worthwhile having the more specialised DNA tests (something that you soon learn costs a lot as it is not covered by Medicare). Yes, was the answer, so like a game of Monopoly I took more steps forward to have the Genetic testing done – a month later Dr J rang me in the evening to say “You have MODY 3 (also known as HNF1A-MODY) rather than type 1 “Have a look at the internet, particularly the research out of England and I will see you in my Office to discuss what this means for you.”

I discovered MODY affects 1-2% of people with diabetes, although it often goes unrecognised. The 3 main features of MODY are:

· Diabetes often develops before the age of 25

· Diabetes runs in families from one generation to the next

· Diabetes may be treated by diet or tablets and does not always need insulin treatment

MODY runs in families because of a change in a single gene which is passed on by affected parents to their children. We call this Autosomal Dominant Inheritance. All children of an affected parent with MODY have a 50% chance of inheriting the affected gene and developing MODY themselves.

Treatment that changed my life

When I arrived to see Dr J, I was more concerned about what this diagnosis meant to my 22 year old daughter, rather than anything related to myself due to the high risk of passing on the gene mutation. Reframed by Dr J “there is a 50% chance that she will not get MODY’.

MODY is not usually treated with insulin injections as there is still insulin being produced, unlike type 1 diabetics which is an autoimmune disease. I thought this was as remote as I had been having injections for such a long time, I would have no hope in hell of stopping the injections!

Again, Dr J took me by surprise, and asked if I would like to try stopping insulin and try Glycazide tablets. He emphasized it was probably pretty short odds that I would be able to stay off the insulin but “he was willing to try if I was” (I thought, what did he mean if I want to – you have to be joking? Do you understand 40 years of regimented life dictated by injection and food, injection, food?) I jumped at the opportunity, thinking that even if it was only for one or two days until my blood sugars escalated into outer orbit it was worth it – I am now 28 insulin free days later or the equivalent of 112 insulin injections, and I am showing good blood sugar levels to indicate that this will continue.

New learning

The first few days I felt like I was mesmerized by my glucometer – measuring 4 times a day and wanting to check in-between to see if my glucose levels were rising. I was a bit lost as I had rituals for taking my insulin in my work and home life these were gone – I no longer have to make excuses to dash off to privately inject. I do not have to be conscious of taking my insulin kit with me everywhere, as those 4 daily injections always need to be considered. My refrigerator has space – when you get two different types of insulin pens and a new prescription you know how much space they take up in the fridge, suddenly I have a whole shelf available.

It is scary at times as I feel like I am learning about diabetes all over again, previously I could balance carbs, exercise and insulin levels tightly but, on this new regime this is a totally different approach – takes time. Hypos where I would feel a familiar set of symptoms that usually started with heart racing and sweating are elusive and yet the glucometer tells me I am low, something has changed for my internal alert system.

Hypoglycaemia is my fear now as I learn to titrate the dose of tablets as MODY 3’s are more sensitive to sulphonylurea medicines and only need the slightest increases to have dramatic blood sugar lowering effects. I no longer fear ketoacidosis that I had been so fearful of as a type 1 diabetic as I am producing insulin this is not possible.

Lessons

1. What I had known as type 1 and type 2 no longer captures all diabetics.

2. Having a treatment review outside of your normal long term treatment team can open doors

3. Insulin injections may not always be a life sentence
 

phoenix

Expert
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Type of diabetes
Type 1
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Pump
Lovely to hear your personal story.
As you know you aren't alone, there are a number of people who were diagnosed as T1 when young but actually have MODY.

I think this is a good place to add that anyone who was diagnosed with T1 in the first 6 months of life should have genetic testing.
if you were/your child was diagnosed with diabetes before you/they were 6 months old, ask your diabetes team for a test for neonatal diabetes. Your team can take a blood sample and send it to the Peninsula Medical School based at the Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital for analysis. The test is free. Go to www.diabetesgenes.org. This site will also tell your doctor how to take your blood and send it to the team at Exeter
http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to...es/Other-types-of-diabetes/Neonatal-diabetes/
 

terriebari

Newbie
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Type of diabetes
Other
Treatment type
Insulin
hi from the USA,
I have a very similar story. I am 48 and was diagnosed at age 16 in 1981. back then, if you were young and failed the glucose tolerance test, you were a type 1. I never had any symptoms as a kid. the high bs was found in a random blood test.
I was put on insulin immediately. I had tons of problems that the drs. told me were all in my head. eventually I found des. that would try different oral medications. some worked, some didn't, and I always felt like I was just a guinea pig. a few years back, I decided I had had it with pills that only kind of worked and went back to insulin.

I received my Official MODY 3 diagnosis three days ago. in a way, it's a relief. in another sense, it's really not. I don't think anything will really change for me and I. am really worried about my heart. I've been lucky this far in that the only complication I have is high blood pressure, well controlled with medication. I have lost both of my heavy smoker parents to heart disease, though so it's on my mind a lot.

it's helpful to know that there are others like me out there, and I look forward to reading more in the forums.

Take care, All
Terrie
 

mlmac

Member
Messages
14
Type of diabetes
MODY
Treatment type
Insulin
hi from the USA,
I have a very similar story. I am 48 and was diagnosed at age 16 in 1981. back then, if you were young and failed the glucose tolerance test, you were a type 1. I never had any symptoms as a kid. the high bs was found in a random blood test.
I was put on insulin immediately. I had tons of problems that the drs. told me were all in my head. eventually I found des. that would try different oral medications. some worked, some didn't, and I always felt like I was just a guinea pig. a few years back, I decided I had had it with pills that only kind of worked and went back to insulin.

I received my Official MODY 3 diagnosis three days ago. in a way, it's a relief. in another sense, it's really not. I don't think anything will really change for me and I. am really worried about my heart. I've been lucky this far in that the only complication I have is high blood pressure, well controlled with medication. I have lost both of my heavy smoker parents to heart disease, though so it's on my mind a lot.

it's helpful to know that there are others like me out there, and I look forward to reading more in the forums.

Take care, All
Terrie
Wow that is such a good story as I was thinking I was alone! I am still insulin injection free, almost 2 months so I am just excited about that rather than thinking about the future.
I try to divorce from my mind what is diabetic related and what might just be a family inheritance issue - not sure if that applies to your concerns re heart disease. Just imagine they were not at all aware of food, diet, medication etc. You are so much ahead of where they were at! good luck ML
 

mlmac

Member
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14
Type of diabetes
MODY
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi,
Very interesting hearing your experience, Good Luck, I hope things continue to go well.
I am a type 2 and would dread having to inject 4 times a day :)
thanks for the encouragement I am now 2 months insulin free - WOW!!!! ML
 
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mlmac

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Treatment type
Insulin
Hi all it is now 4 & 1/2 months insulin free or 540 injections later since I was diagnosed with mody 3 and taken off my 40 years of insulin 4 times a day regime! It has taken some time for my head to move from a 3 hourly bsl check to feeling that it is ok to drop the testing and only do it on a daily basis at the times when I know it might be rising. I have moved to a slow release Diamicron enhanced by Januvia. this is keeping my blood sugars in control. I have also discovered if I do a regular exercise regime i.e., 5 kms on a cycle each night I can keep the overnight bsl in control as they kept rising and I would be in shock in the morning to find I was sitting at 13 + now they are in the 7 's. Keep hanging in there. ML
 
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mlmac

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Insulin
Hi I am now 1 year and 1 month insulin free since I reported last year that I had been diagnosed Mody 3 after 40 years of insulin type 1 treatment. WOW I feel great taking tabs and not having 4 injections daily. I know that is probably where I will go back to but it is a fantastic relief. Last HBA1C 6.9 and going down as the previous was 7.4 (six months ago). Have had a couple of changes of combination therapy glycozide 60mg MR x 2 daily plus dapagliflozin 10mg daily. Keep spreading the word that people need to challenge their diagnosis and maybe spend the money on genetic testing! ML
 
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mlmac

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Type of diabetes
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Insulin
Please be encouraged it is almost 2 years since I stopped injecting 4 times a day - yeah to MODY 3 - ML
 

mlmac

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Type of diabetes
MODY
Treatment type
Insulin
Hello again
I am reporting in, that I am now 3 yrs, 6 mths insulin injection free! Still maintaining on tabs regime. I lost around 12kg over the time as I no longer have to feed the insulin injections which are unforgiving when you get a hypo! I am starting to see some hi bsl in the morning so hope it can still be controlled with a change in meds - I understand that Mody's probably end up on Insulin but it is such a buzz after 40 years of injecting - not too. Every day I am so appreciative of the new diagnosis as I now feel I have a much firmer grip on my diagnosis MODY 3 - sadly there are a lot of diabetic educators and General Practitioners who have no idea. Love to hear from others, how they are going?
ML
 

desidiabulum

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Hi mlmac -- good to hear things are going well with you. I was diagnosed MODY April 2010 but they have still not sorted out the precise gene. I was told when diagnosed that I would be on insulin within months -- nearly 8 years on and I'm still just on the sulfonylureas. On my last review at the diabetes clinic I saw a junior consultant rather than the usual doctor and he was amazingly well-informed on MODY -- but that was a first for me.
 
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mlmac

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Type of diabetes
MODY
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Insulin
Hey great to hear from you. I am in Australia so maybe it is just taking time to get here! How are your HbA1c's going after all this time - love to know.
cheers
 

desidiabulum

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Hey great to hear from you. I am in Australia so maybe it is just taking time to get here! How are your HbA1c's going after all this time - love to know.
cheers
My hba1cs mostly cluster around 42 (so 6.0 on your calculation) but last one crept up to 46 (6.4) -- wish they were lower but life keeps getting in the way.
Where are you in Australia?
 

mlmac

Member
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Type of diabetes
MODY
Treatment type
Insulin
My most recent result was 7.1 so I am feeling a bit down! Best I ever did was 6.5 so it is fantastic to hear about your results :) In Western Australia.
 

desidiabulum

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Don't feel down -- see it as a challenge! When is your next hba1c due? It would be good if you could aim for that 6.5 again -- do you have some room to tweak diet and exercise a bit?