Need to get back on track

amanda19640

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Hi everyone, not been on for a long time, had things under control with hb1c but had bloods last week and gone up to 54! Soooo dissapointed but have not really been totally lchf
Any suggestions im feeling really dowm
 

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Hi @amanda19640 Welcome back! You've come to the right place to get the advice and support you need to get back on track. I'll tag @daisy1 who will give you the blurb for newbies - just as reminders for you. You can get back in control of this!
 

amanda19640

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Ah thank you that would be great
 

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Hi everyone, not been on for a long time, had things under control with hb1c but had bloods last week and gone up to 54! Soooo dissapointed but have not really been totally lchf
Any suggestions im feeling really dowm

Did you change your diet?
What made your HBA1C go up?
 

amanda19640

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Well initially i was starting to get a few hypos doing compleatly lchf so my nurse reccommend a few carbs so i did & started 2 feel better with no rise. But during the night it hit me that i had a really heavy cold towards the end of jan (aling with the rest of the country!) Then had my blood done early feb. Would this affect my blood results i wonder?
 

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Hi everyone, not been on for a long time, had things under control with hb1c but had bloods last week and gone up to 54! Soooo dissapointed but have not really been totally lchf
Any suggestions im feeling really dowm
I'm starting afresh today. Groceries are in.
Stock up first. Remove temptationst
 

ickihun

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Well initially i was starting to get a few hypos doing compleatly lchf so my nurse reccommend a few carbs so i did & started 2 feel better with no rise. But during the night it hit me that i had a really heavy cold towards the end of jan (aling with the rest of the country!) Then had my blood done early feb. Would this affect my blood results i wonder?
No cold doesnt affect hba1c. Long periods of stress does thou.
When you had hypos could you not have reduced your hypo inducing meds instead instead of carbs?
 

amanda19640

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It wasnt reccommend as the nurse said i couldn't have hypos on metformin! When i tested manually whilst ill blood readings were high.
 

ickihun

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It wasnt reccommend as the nurse said i couldn't have hypos on metformin! When i tested manually whilst ill blood readings were high.
Thats rubbish as you can prove. You can get hypos on Metformin, it's less common and some say less vicious, but you can vouch for hypos on Metformin. Now.
 

amanda19640

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Yes i agree. My daughter had a gastric band on 4/2 and i had 2 take her to Birmingham 4 this as was very worried bout her maybe this hasnt helped, im trying 2 justify it i think
 

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As Metformin has only the slightest affect on blood glucose levels I doubt very much whether it would cause hypos. Could yours have been 'false hypos' ? Is Metformin the only treatment you are prescribed for T2?
 

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@amanda19640

Hello Amanda and welcome back. Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it a useful reminder. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

amanda19640

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As Metformin has only the slightest affect on blood glucose levels I doubt very much whether it would cause hypos. Could yours have been 'false hypos' ? Is Metformin the only treatment you are prescribed for T2?
As Metformin has only the slightest affect on blood glucose levels I doubt very much whether it would cause hypos. Could yours have been 'false hypos' ? Is Metformin the only treatment you are prescribed for T2?
Yes this is all im on for my type 2
 

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Yes this is all im on for my type 2

A false hypo happens if we run high for a while, let's say at 9. Or 10 and we see a sudden drop to 5.5 or 6 the body thinks we are running out of glucose and we feel rotten. In reality the body just isn't used to running at lower levels as it takes a little while to adjust. A true hypo is said to be below about 3 though some people feel it at 4, these are people who take insulin or one of the blood glucose lowering drugs. Metformin works inthe background to stall liver dumps, it is also a mild appetite suppressant and it can afford some protection to the organs.

It is great that you have decided to get back on the waggon, we all have wobbles sometimes. Good luck.
 

4ratbags

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@amanda19640 do you have a meter to test your BS as I know from experience that Metformin can indeed cause hypos which is why I stopped taking it. It may be a good idea to start cutting back on the carbs and if the hypos start again discuss with your nurse the possibility of reducing or stopping the Metformin for awhile to see how you go.