Prediabetes diet advice

arnold99

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Mrs 99 has been advised by her doctor that she has pre-diabetes and has been advised to "eat like a diabetic" to reverse symptoms.
We have spent some time looking at this website but confused, we need pointing in the right direction for diet advice. We don't have time at breakfast to prepare some of the more complicated menus, so for example what cereals are good for diabetics, but seeking diet advice also for simple lunches, and more complicated evening meals where we have time to prepare.

All advice gratefully received

The 99s
 

bulkbiker

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To put it simply low/no carbohydrate meals are good for diabetics/people with diabetes (delete as applicable). This kind of means that no cereals are "good" for us. In fact I would go so far as to say that cereals are not "good" for anyone except for shareholders in the companies that produce them. You'd be better off with eggs and bacon.
A lot of us follow a low carb way of eating which has returned us to good health So we don't have bread, pasta, potatoes , rice or other starchy foods but instead feast on meat, fish, green veg, butter, cream and cheese. Fruit consumption is minimised to avoid spiking blood sugar with excess fructose although we may have berries with Greek yoghurt (full fat of course).
This is streets away from NHS advice as to what people with diabetes should eat but then again we seem to have started to reverse the chronic progressive condition that they think we have.
I'll tag @daisy1 for the intro to low carb for you.
 

PreDiet

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Boiled egg on toast with mayo , 1 or 2 small toast (Wholemeal) lettuce or veg if you can or 1 piece of fruit , it's test and survive . I had an excellent Hba1c this years test of 39 but it is ongoing . If like me you fall off the 'diet' it's down the snakes and a long step by step up the ladder.

I was told no more than 2 pieces of fruit and two chunks of Dark chocolate. Balanced meals (obvious really)

I test fasting BG on a home bought and paid for monitor but it's really up to you , it can be deceiving / confusing .
 

urbanracer

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Welcome to the forums @arnold99 ,

Some excellent advice above so good luck to the missus - hope she manages to get it under control.
 

PreDiet

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Prediabetes
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I tried Low carb high fat but found myself ill and craving , I follow the NHS advice and that produced the Hba1c of 39 (not bad).

I DON'T follow high fat because my dad had type 2 and died at the age of 59 of a great heart attack ( blocked arteries) . Wether he was following the high fat / low carb I do not know . ( Which leads me to the conclusion it's bad enough with normal fat diet , don't mess around with nature)

All the BEST ~~ Pre-Diet. :bored: <3 :headphone:
 

Boo1979

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It would be agood idea to buy yourselves a blood glucose testing meter and strips then test favourite foods and see what impact they have on blood sugars - any foods / meals that don't spike blood sugars too high are fine. If you want advice on how to use a meter and its results, just ask
The Tee2 meter ( free from spirit healthcare) and the code free (from amazon / home heath for a charge but slightly cheaper test strips) are the most cost effective in the UK
Weight loss (where needed) and avoiding foods that spike blood sugars and maintaining those changes, are the approaches that currently have the best evidence base for stopping pre diabetes progressing to full blown Type 2 diabetes
 

daisy1

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@arnold99

Hello Mr and Mrs Arnold99 and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

derry60

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I tried Low carb high fat but found myself ill and craving , I follow the NHS advice and that produced the Hba1c of 39 (not bad).

I DON'T follow high fat because my dad had type 2 and died at the age of 59 of a great heart attack ( blocked arteries) . Wether he was following the high fat / low carb I do not know . ( Which leads me to the conclusion it's bad enough with normal fat diet , don't mess around with nature)

All the BEST ~~ Pre-Diet. :bored: <3 :headphone:
I never ate high-fat foods, always diet products, diet cheese, diet yoghurts, and anything else diet. If I did have a dessert it would be diet. I put weight on and was then diagnosed as pre-diabetic a year ago.. I have been eating full-fat cheese, cream and some fat from meat, yet my numbers have come down and I have lost weight. For all the diet food I ate I had a heart attack at 47 years of age, but I did smoke back then
 

britishpub

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Type of diabetes
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my dad had type 2 and died at the age of 59 of a great heart attack ( blocked arteries) .

My Dad (who didn't have any form of Diabetes) died at 56 from a massive heart attack brought about by blocked arteries. He had started suffering from Angina a decade earlier, and despite following the prescribed low fat, high carbohydrate and high fibre diet, and having a triple bypass he still ended up in an early grave.

I am absolutely certain that the low fat diet he followed to the letter for those 10 years ultimately killed him.
 

Kailee56

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Type of diabetes
LADA
Treatment type
Diet only
Agree that cereal would not be good. Sounds like you are also looking for recipes that take little time.

For breakfast, I would recommend eggs and bacon, but made in advance as egg cups or crustless quiche. These can be microwaved from the fridge and are also good for lunch. Here’s an easy started recipe. Keep in mind you can add things like low carb veggies like spinach, broccoli, asparagus, mushrooms. What ever you like.
https://www.ketoconnect.net/recipe/bacon-egg-cups/

Easy lunches include a salad with meat or hard boiled eggs, some cheese, and low carb dressing; a protein salad like egg, chicken, ham, tuna or salmon made with mayonaise and maybe a bit of celery which you can eat on lettuce. As you look more you can make low carb wraps or rolls ahead of time to make more conventional style sandwiches.

Dietdoctor.com has a lot of recipes and information
https://www.dietdoctor.com/
I have also found a ton of low carb recipes on Pinterest

Good luck and keep in mind that the diet changes will be good for both of you, not just Mrs99.
 

arnold99

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Thanks all for pointing us in the right direction. I also take on board comments re lifestyle changes for both of us. I fully support my wife in changes we make and I am getting myself tested to see if I am at risk. Either way I am sure I can benefit from supporting and losing some weight.
 

Chrisvw70_

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Type of diabetes
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Mrs 99 has been advised by her doctor that she has pre-diabetes and has been advised to "eat like a diabetic" to reverse symptoms.
We have spent some time looking at this website but confused, we need pointing in the right direction for diet advice. We don't have time at breakfast to prepare some of the more complicated menus, so for example what cereals are good for diabetics, but seeking diet advice also for simple lunches, and more complicated evening meals where we have time to prepare.

All advice gratefully received

The 99s

Is porridge oats ok
 

cocobee.2017

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Some people manage it ok, but it spikes me terribly at 2 hours. As a prediabetic I don't want to see blood sugar over 10
It spikes me too. My old favorite though used to be porridge, cream + brown sugar yum. Gosh I better stop that. Wish I cld crave for plain chicken breast + veges instead
 

bulkbiker

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It spikes me too. My old favorite though used to be porridge, cream + brown sugar yum. Gosh I better stop that. Wish I cld crave for plain chicken breast + veges instead
Whats wrong with crispy skin chicken thighs instead...with a creamy mushroom sauce.
 
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JoKalsbeek

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Full fat greek or unsweetened coconut yoghurt with a few berries and a hand full of nuts (walnuts, brazil nuts are especially healthy), maybe add some stevia to taste... It's a quick, filling breakfast that shouldn't spike you. Fats slow down the carb uptake, so it helps prevent spikes. Eggs/bacon fry-up without the usual toast is good too, but a bit slower if you're in a hurry. For lunch I either fry veggies with walnuts or a bit of meat, or have a salad (with chicken or fish). Dinner's usually meat and above-ground veggies. No potatoes, corn, rice, pasta etc. It's a bit of an adjustment, but quite doable. A meter helps figure out that works for you and what doesn't. (Before eating, and 2 hours after the first bite, the difference shouldn't be higher than 2 points. If it is more, it's been too carby.). Good luck!
 
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