Scared & Confused

Fiona29

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Hiya eveyone, I was recently diagnosed on the 1st March with type 2.... I'm really confused as what to do as I don't get to see the nurse until Thursday, and don't know what to eat or drink till then.
I'm over weight and it's really frightened me as I knew something had to give at some point as my stress levels were out of control
I would truly appreciate any advice. Thanks Fi xx
 

Goonergal

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Hi @Fiona29 and welcome to the forum.

You’ve come to the right place for information and advice.

As a start, I’m tagging @daisy1 who will provide some useful advice. Have a good read and ask as many questions as you like.

Personally I’ve had a lot of success - weight loss and control of blood sugars - by adopting a low carb diet. One of the best tools for managing this has been the purchase of a blood glucose testing meter so that I can see how various foods impact my blood sugars.
 
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jayney27

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Hi and welcome, you will find lots of advice and support here, in the meantime please try not to panic, you will find your way. It won’t take long for lots of helpful people here to start giving you the support you need, in the meantime I have added my journey so far for you to read and hopefully take some comfort from.

I was diagnosed completely out of the blue in October last year. My first HbA1c was 95 (10.8) 2nd test result 87 (10.1) booked to see the diabetes nurse end of November and she did a finger prick test for me reading 76 (9.1) advised to eat well balanced diet, do some exercise and no need to test!

After the shock and some tears I did my own research and found this forum and the Diet Doctor website. Needless to say what I read made some sense and I decided to ignore the NHS advice and swapped to low carb diet in the new year.

Had my first check up 6th February, HbA1c now 45 (6.3) pre diabetic range, I test my blood myself and am averaging 37 (5.5) I’ve now lost just over 3 stone, my cholesterol was good at time of diagnosis 4.1 and has come down a little bit to 4, blood pressure was good and again has come down to lower than the recommended maximum level. Exercise wise I started with 20 minutes swimming 4 times a week until new year, then I introduced 15 minute HiiT sessions for a change and now I have just returned to 30 minute swims, 5 minute HiiT sessions and a daily walk during lunch breaks of 15 to 20 minutes (weather permitting). I am hoping that when I go for my second check up my HbA1c will reflect the averages I get now, I would love to see it around 32 to 34, still have some weight to loose but have a holiday booked for May that is acting as an additional motivation.

Good luck and I wish you success.
 

Fiona29

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Wow thank you so much for all your advice & journeys, thanks @janey27 for sharing your story with me and well done you, you've done fantastic x
 
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Rachox

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Hi Fiona and welcome!
I'm now nearly ten months from being diagnosed type 2. Once I was over the initial shock, I saw it as the proverbial kick up the bum to get healthier. I was started on Metformin tablets and tolerate them well now after a bit of stomach upset in the early days. I wasn't advised to eat low carb by my GP or Diabetes education course, but stumbled on this forum by chance and took up a low carb life style with self monitoring.
This has worked for me, to date I've lost over 5 stone (still more to go) and got my HbA1c (blood test for 2-3 month average blood sugar) down to a non diabetic level, all due to the fantastic support and advise I got here. Read around the Forum and ask any questions you may have.
 
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shelley262

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Hi @Fiona29 welcome to the forum I’m sure you’ll find with help, advice and support here you’ll get on top of this. I’m sure that I like many here developed diabetes for a range of reasons. Like you in addition to being overweight I was also suffering from a long period of stress. There is no doubt that stress and the often associated poor sleep patterns put up blood sugars too! I’ve found that equally important to finding the right way of eating to help you control your blood sugars it would also be good to look at ways of working on managing your stress levels too. I find using a mindfulness app called Headspace helpful as is taking time out for me. I also do Pilates which I find calming.
Remember too that you’ll need to break this into small bits and work on one thing at a time and meanwhile read as much as you can the more knowledge you have to make your choices as to how to improve your lifestyle the better. Ask for advice here at any time someone here will be able to give you advice and support. Big hug heading your way - stress can make you feel very anxious and overwhelmed but it won’t always be like that
 
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jayney27

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Wow thank you so much for all your advice & journeys, thanks @janey27 for sharing your story with me and well done you, you've done fantastic x
Hi Fiona29

Thank you, I’m sure you will have a similar story to share one day, it’s not easy but if you set your mind to it you will do it.

All the very best, if I can help in any way please don’t hesitate to ask. X
 
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Bluetit1802

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Hi @Fiona29 and welcome to the forum,

There is some great advice above, and all I can add at this point is that I strongly advise you to do two things:

Firstly buy yourself a blood glucose meter and test strips. This will be your best friend and will guide you in your food choices alongside a food diary. Without a meter you are really working blind, and if/when you buy one, we will help you how to use it to your best advantage.

Secondly, ask your surgery for a print out of your blood test results. You need to see these in black and white so you can analyse them for yourself. Doctors and nurses are renowned for filtering out information - it happens all the time. It isn't just your glucose numbers you need, it is also cholesterol and lipids (HDL/LDL/triglycerides and your liver and kidney functions. You need to know where you are, and can compare them with future results (you will be having a lot of tests from now on) to see if you are improving or otherwise.

Remember, diet is the key to control, and that means reducing carbohydrate and not just sugar.
 
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Fiona29

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Thank you @Bluetit1082 I'm going to get a monitor first thing, I'm not even sure what to do, but with everyone's advice on here tonight I'm sure I'll get there. I can't thank ppl enough, I'm overwhelmed
 

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Thank you @Bluetit1082 I'm going to get a monitor first thing, I'm not even sure what to do, but with everyone's advice on here tonight I'm sure I'll get there. I can't thank ppl enough, I'm overwhelmed

It will all fall into place, and this forum is the best place to be.
The most popular meters for self funding T2's are the Codefree and the Tee2 because the strips are much cheaper than other meters, and you need a lot of strips. You can't buy them in pharmacies.

Try here for the Codefree meter
http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/blood-glucose-monitor/

and here for the extra strips
http://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/sd-codefree-test-strips-to-be-used-only-with-the-sd-monitor/

There are discount codes if you buy in bulk.
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833

The Tee2 is here and the meter is free.
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/

Don’t forget to check the box that you have diabetes so you can buy VAT free. (for either meter)
 

cocobee.2017

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That's because we care about you Fiona! especially when someone is brave to reach out as you have. I am still learning myself but I got the fat secret app to count my carbs + I try to not go over 60gm a day. It also counts calories. It's an experiment for now so if I don't lose weight, I will then reduce carbs to 40gm. I also wanted to let u know that it CAN be controlled. My mother was a fine example. She was diagnosed at age 40 and lived to 83. People asked her what her secret to good health is + also the fact she looked younger.
 
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Fiona29

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Lol aww bless her
Thanks @cocobee.2017 it's just very confusing atm you know! I've no idea of what to have for meals or anything..... I've got pins & needles in the tips of my fingers and some blury vision at night. I'm sure it will all click into place. Thanks for caring take care
Fi x
 

cocobee.2017

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Was confusing for me too at 1st. Thats why I log my meals into fat secret (not a very nice name I know but it's a good app), it counts my carbs for me + I try not to go over my own personal limit. I also eat to my meter. Just start off simple, perhaps veg omelette for breakfast + add cheese if u wish and maybe a handful of nuts if ur still hungry. Chicken salad or soup for lunch with half an avocado to fill u up, healthy fats are filling. Then hv a normal dinner. I try to stick to 3 meals a day + may reduce to 2 meals later. I find the more I reduce carbs, the less hungry I feel. I don't want to bamboozle you with TMI but please do come back to us if you need more suggestions
 
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@Fiona29

Hello Fiona and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

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