Prediabetes and loads of unanswered questions

Royally

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Hi.
Long post alert!
Well I have had a very stressful weekend to say the least. I was told on Friday that my a1c (I think that was the test) came back as a 42. I had had a viral infection that they ended up thinking was glandular fever and they added the test as my joints had swelled up. Anyway I have to wait until 4 April to see our diabetes nurse and don't even know where to begin. I was given a leaflet by the doctor and told to read it. I am someone who likes to know exactly what to do, which didn't answer my questions.
I have been recording what I eat so that I have a record. I know I did snack too much on sweets and chocolates so that is one thing that I have cut out and also tried to make sure I am excercising more so walking at least 30 minutes briskly a day although I am very active anywhere my cardio excercising is low. I have increased my fluid intake as I know this is also helpful. This in turn makes me need the toilet more....if that is even possible. I tried to go and pick up a glucose tester at the pharmacy today and tescos and nothing. They don't stock them any more. So now what? Hence the stress.
 

Resurgam

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First of all welcome, and second, don't worry - your Hba1c is quite modest, mine at diagnosis was a rip roaring 91.
After 6 months eating low carb it was 41, which is the very top end of normal, so you could very well be back to that already if you have cut out sweets and done some exercise for good measure.
I find that I feel great on a low carb way of eating with lots more energy and interest - I am just going to go to band practice, so must dash, but I am sure others will soon give you the info on a low cost meter and strips - it is the strips which you need to be low cast, as that is ongoing.
 

Royally

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First of all welcome, and second, don't worry - your Hba1c is quite modest, mine at diagnosis was a rip roaring 91.
After 6 months eating low carb it was 41, which is the very top end of normal, so you could very well be back to that already if you have cut out sweets and done some exercise for good measure.
I find that I feel great on a low carb way of eating with lots more energy and interest - I am just going to go to band practice, so must dash, but I am sure others will soon give you the info on a low cost meter and strips - it is the strips which you need to be low cast, as that is ongoing.
Hi.
Thanks for the info. I guess I am looking forward to the energy side. I get so tired at the end of the day most recently and thought it was down to the glandular fever. Tests came back negative for that so not sure now. Do have the other symptoms so completely baffeled and could of course be down to the diabetes....
 

urbanracer

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Not being able to eat as many chocolate digestives as I used to.
Hi and welcome to the forums @Royally

As @Resurgam has suggested, the biggest cost of checking your blood glucose is the ongoing purchase of test strips. Most people find that the SD Codefree is the cheapest on the market in the UK.

https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring-system-mmoll-or-mgdl/

I think @Bluetit1802 has a discount code for the strips.

If you don't like the look of it then there are plenty others to choose from,

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood_glucose_monitor_guide.html

If you cannot find one in-store then take a look on Amazon.

I'll also ask @daisy1 to stop by and give you some new members info.

Good luck,
 
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Rachox

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Welcome to the Forum.
Here’s the codes for discount for strips for the SD Code Free from Home Health:
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833
You can order the monitor with a limited numbers of strips and lancets (10 of each) with a two or three day delivery from Amazon or I think you can pay extra for next day via Home Health.
 
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daisy1

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@Royally

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

peter-c

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First of all welcome, and second, don't worry - your Hba1c is quite modest, mine at diagnosis was a rip roaring 91.
After 6 months eating low carb it was 41, which is the very top end of normal, so you could very well be back to that already if you have cut out sweets and done some exercise for good measure.
I find that I feel great on a low carb way of eating with lots more energy and interest - I am just going to go to band practice, so must dash, but I am sure others will soon give you the info on a low cost meter and strips - it is the strips which you need to be low cast, as that is ongoing.

Hi, Im new to the forum. I was diagnosed with diabetes 2 years ago, but managed to get the Hba1c level down to pre-diabetic levels. Then it went up again last year. I was getting fasting glucose levels of 8.7 and 9.0. A friend told me about the Fast Diet (Michael Mosley) which involves eating 600 calories two days a week and then what you like the rest of time. I am/ was a skinny on the outside type, with fat round the tummy and deposits of fat... In October I weighed 13 stone with fasting glucose of 9.0. By January I'd lost a stone and weighed 11 st 10 lb. My fasting BG had come down to 6.5, even 6.2. I then stated getting a bit over confident that I'd licked the diabetes. I started eating more carbs, had a glass or two of wine... The fasting BGs went up to 8.6, I put on 4-5 lbs. So now I'm back on the Fast Diet. BG going down and I've lost the 4 lbs again...
 

Royally

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
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Thank you all. I am still a little worried as I have now looked into symptoms and have had the blurry vision on and off since before Christmas and blood tests including fasting were ok. I started taking vitamin b and it seemed to help. I have been tired but put that down to having and active child and job. Lastly since my viral infection I have been going to the toiket loads, I am drinking loads more but still worried. Got a blood glucose system but realised it didn't come with a control solution so now waiting for that. Should I go in to the gp again? Can your diabetes get worse that quickly? I have been good although carbs are reading of an average of 100+g. No bad ones though.
 

Bluetit1802

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Got a blood glucose system but realised it didn't come with a control solution so now waiting for that.

You don't need the control solution. I have been testing 4 years and only used it twice - both times when I thought my meter was throwing up errors. It wasn't. You can start testing straight away.
 

Royally

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Prediabetes
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You don't need the control solution. I have been testing 4 years and only used it twice - both times when I thought my meter was throwing up errors. It wasn't. You can start testing straight away.
Hi
I just did a test. 30 min after meal it was 5.7mmol/l. Is that good or bad?
 

Alison Campbell

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Hi and a belated welcome to the forum.
It really helps to test at 2 hours and list what you have eaten to give the reading proper context that most people can respond to.

There is no target for what your readings should be at 30 minutes as apart from pure glucose most foods will not peak that quickly.
 

Bluetit1802

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@Royally The idea is to test immediately before you eat and again 2 hours after first bite, then look at the rise from before to after. This should be under 2mmol/l and hopefully less. More than 2mmol/l and the carbs in that meal need reducing, either by reducing portion size or eliminating. Keeping a detailed food diary and recording your levels alongside is the best way to see patterns and discover which your particular danger foods are.