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Type in google diabetes and apple cider vinegar. It’ll bring up a lot of resources on it. It just doesn’t allow me to put a link up here to that.
Hi all
I'm new to the forums. I was diagnosed with Diabetes Type 2, 3 years ago I'm now 45 and although I've managed to get my levels down to HBA1c reading of 60, this is mainly through medication (4 x Metformin, 1 x Gliclazide, 1 x Candesartan, 1 x Avrostatin).
I really don't like taking medication and now find myself taking more than my parents! (My Dad is 82 and is on 5 tablets a day!)
I've struggled with my weight, currently 16 stone 7lbs and I've been trying to lose weight for the past 10 years using various options, slimming world, shakes, keto, exercise, low carb, counselling, hypnotherapy etc. etc. My problem is the weight loss is so slow, that I find 6 weeks down the line I've lost 3lb and then I end up having one bad day and the 3lbs are back! Its just very demotivating, because it takes me so long to lose it and I find low carb/keto works best for me but I can't seem to maintain it as I end up be it a week, 3 or 6 weeks down the line having major carb cravings and the weight quickly goes back on. Don't get me wrong, when I say carb cravings, I'm not eating as badly as I use to, no where near, but I could for example on a 'carb carving day', have 6 slices of brown toast, over the course of the day, 2 packets of crisps and a portion of shepherds pie. Which in the overall scheme of my history of eating, doesn't feel that bad, but still that kind of eating now ends with me quickly putting weight back on. I feel like I would need to eat like a mouse for the rest of my life to change things forever .
Its frustrating, because I understand that the science of it all 'is easy'. Its all to to do with how many calories you burn and how many you eat! Its not rocket science, but some how my head doesn't see it that way.
I've been reading up about this 800 calorie diet which states it can reverse things within 8-12 weeks and I'm wondering if I could get myself through that and if it really would reverse things or would I just go back again?
Has anyone here managed to reverse their diabetes? How did they reverse it and How much weight did you have to lose to achieve it? and have you manage to keep it off for any length of time?
I could do with some real inspiration
Take care
Laura
Hi all
I'm new to the forums. I was diagnosed with Diabetes Type 2, 3 years ago I'm now 45 and although I've managed to get my levels down to HBA1c reading of 60, this is mainly through medication (4 x Metformin, 1 x Gliclazide, 1 x Candesartan, 1 x Avrostatin).
I really don't like taking medication and now find myself taking more than my parents! (My Dad is 82 and is on 5 tablets a day!)
I've struggled with my weight, currently 16 stone 7lbs and I've been trying to lose weight for the past 10 years using various options, slimming world, shakes, keto, exercise, low carb, counselling, hypnotherapy etc. etc. My problem is the weight loss is so slow, that I find 6 weeks down the line I've lost 3lb and then I end up having one bad day and the 3lbs are back! Its just very demotivating, because it takes me so long to lose it and I find low carb/keto works best for me but I can't seem to maintain it as I end up be it a week, 3 or 6 weeks down the line having major carb cravings and the weight quickly goes back on. Don't get me wrong, when I say carb cravings, I'm not eating as badly as I use to, no where near, but I could for example on a 'carb carving day', have 6 slices of brown toast, over the course of the day, 2 packets of crisps and a portion of shepherds pie. Which in the overall scheme of my history of eating, doesn't feel that bad, but still that kind of eating now ends with me quickly putting weight back on. I feel like I would need to eat like a mouse for the rest of my life to change things forever .
Its frustrating, because I understand that the science of it all 'is easy'. Its all to to do with how many calories you burn and how many you eat! Its not rocket science, but some how my head doesn't see it that way.
I've been reading up about this 800 calorie diet which states it can reverse things within 8-12 weeks and I'm wondering if I could get myself through that and if it really would reverse things or would I just go back again?
Has anyone here managed to reverse their diabetes? How did they reverse it and How much weight did you have to lose to achieve it? and have you manage to keep it off for any length of time?
I could do with some real inspiration
Take care
Laura
Hi all
I'm new to the forums. I was diagnosed with Diabetes Type 2, 3 years ago I'm now 45 and although I've managed to get my levels down to HBA1c reading of 60, this is mainly through medication (4 x Metformin, 1 x Gliclazide, 1 x Candesartan, 1 x Avrostatin).
I really don't like taking medication and now find myself taking more than my parents! (My Dad is 82 and is on 5 tablets a day!)
I've struggled with my weight, currently 16 stone 7lbs and I've been trying to lose weight for the past 10 years using various options, slimming world, shakes, keto, exercise, low carb, counselling, hypnotherapy etc. etc. My problem is the weight loss is so slow, that I find 6 weeks down the line I've lost 3lb and then I end up having one bad day and the 3lbs are back! Its just very demotivating, because it takes me so long to lose it and I find low carb/keto works best for me but I can't seem to maintain it as I end up be it a week, 3 or 6 weeks down the line having major carb cravings and the weight quickly goes back on. Don't get me wrong, when I say carb cravings, I'm not eating as badly as I use to, no where near, but I could for example on a 'carb carving day', have 6 slices of brown toast, over the course of the day, 2 packets of crisps and a portion of shepherds pie. Which in the overall scheme of my history of eating, doesn't feel that bad, but still that kind of eating now ends with me quickly putting weight back on. I feel like I would need to eat like a mouse for the rest of my life to change things forever .
Its frustrating, because I understand that the science of it all 'is easy'. Its all to to do with how many calories you burn and how many you eat! Its not rocket science, but some how my head doesn't see it that way.
I've been reading up about this 800 calorie diet which states it can reverse things within 8-12 weeks and I'm wondering if I could get myself through that and if it really would reverse things or would I just go back again?
Has anyone here managed to reverse their diabetes? How did they reverse it and How much weight did you have to lose to achieve it? and have you manage to keep it off for any length of time?
I could do with some real inspiration
Take care
Laura
Sounds like you are in that "half pregnant" phase where you are eating too many carbs to get into fat burning mode and not enough fat to trigger satiety. I can only recommend trying to lower your carb intake and up the fats and protein to make up. Maybe start a food diary to see what you are really eating and try to reduce from there.I feel a bit like your terrible twin - 16 1/2 stone, tried everything for weight loss, lose a couple of pounds and gain it again...only I don't think I have PCOS. And I wish I was still 45! I tried the 8 week and just couldn't hack it, my problem is I nibble. I eat a good (moderate carb, moderate fat) diet with good portion control, then snack snack snack. So my HbAc1 is staying firmly on 6.3 since the first one nearly two years ago, and my weight is staying firmly on 16 1/2 stone. Now I have been diagnosed with a fatty liver, and my feet are more "fuzzy" than ever.
I've been reading this forum for the last two years, too, and the impression I get is that turning your health around is easy
I have a nasty feeling you are right. I do have two nice little hardback notebooks full of scribbles of "what i have eaten today" but there are an awful lot of pages with a whole days good eating then a thick line through and "nibbles" written across the carb total. Must. Try . Harder.Sounds like you are in that "half pregnant" phase where you are eating too many carbs to get into fat burning mode and not enough fat to trigger satiety. I can only recommend trying to lower your carb intake and up the fats and protein to make up. Maybe start a food diary to see what you are really eating and try to reduce from there.
Hi @Fleegle - when you say if you have a day slip up you back back to day one, how do you think this stops/damages the progress?Hi @laurag2905
Good luck with the ND. It isn't so easy but it is important to plan it well - get friends family and work on board (no point planning a party in the middle of it) and try not to cheat. Personally I think if you have one day slip up - you go back to day one... But I am pretty hard on myself when I set a goal. And once it is finished, consider it the beginning of the journey not an end.
Hi all
I'm new to the forums. I was diagnosed with Diabetes Type 2, 3 years ago I'm now 45 and although I've managed to get my levels down to HBA1c reading of 60, this is mainly through medication (4 x Metformin, 1 x Gliclazide, 1 x Candesartan, 1 x Avrostatin).
I really don't like taking medication and now find myself taking more than my parents! (My Dad is 82 and is on 5 tablets a day!)
I've struggled with my weight, currently 16 stone 7lbs and I've been trying to lose weight for the past 10 years using various options, slimming world, shakes, keto, exercise, low carb, counselling, hypnotherapy etc. etc. My problem is the weight loss is so slow, that I find 6 weeks down the line I've lost 3lb and then I end up having one bad day and the 3lbs are back! Its just very demotivating, because it takes me so long to lose it and I find low carb/keto works best for me but I can't seem to maintain it as I end up be it a week, 3 or 6 weeks down the line having major carb cravings and the weight quickly goes back on. Don't get me wrong, when I say carb cravings, I'm not eating as badly as I use to, no where near, but I could for example on a 'carb carving day', have 6 slices of brown toast, over the course of the day, 2 packets of crisps and a portion of shepherds pie. Which in the overall scheme of my history of eating, doesn't feel that bad, but still that kind of eating now ends with me quickly putting weight back on. I feel like I would need to eat like a mouse for the rest of my life to change things forever .
Its frustrating, because I understand that the science of it all 'is easy'. Its all to to do with how many calories you burn and how many you eat! Its not rocket science, but some how my head doesn't see it that way.
I've been reading up about this 800 calorie diet which states it can reverse things within 8-12 weeks and I'm wondering if I could get myself through that and if it really would reverse things or would I just go back again?
Has anyone here managed to reverse their diabetes? How did they reverse it and How much weight did you have to lose to achieve it? and have you manage to keep it off for any length of time?
I could do with some real inspiration
Take care
Laura
I was diagnosed type 2 January 27 th 2014. My GP told me about an interesting article he had just read by an endocrinologist in Newcastle- professor Taylor- and his research. I went home, downloaded all the papers, read them and emailed GP to see if there was any medical reason I could not embark on the diet. None, so I began on January 28th. By the end of July I had lost more than 6 stones, bought a second hand treadmill, learned to run which I did 6 out if 7 days, and went from a size 20 to. Size 10. HbA1c went from 7.8 to 4.7.
More than four years later .. I am off the diabetes register, weigh the same as I did when I stopped dieting, run 6k for 6 out of 7 days, and my last HbA1c was 4.8. (My gp insists I have it done annually).
I am now fitter and healthier than I was in my 20s and 30s - but I am very careful as I want to stay reversed. All diets had also failed for me in the past. I have learned to cook lovely low carb meals, low carb sugar free desserts for treats, and have wine at the weekends. It can be done and it is worth it.
Hope this helps!
Well it is a good question and one that will generate lots of debate so....Hi @Fleegle - when you say if you have a day slip up you back back to day one, how do you think this stops/damages the progress?
Thanks @Fleegle - all very interesting. I had done around 8 weeks at 1000 calories, there was a certain point for a week when I'd lost 22 pounds where my fbg suddenly normalised - went to bed on 4.9, woke to 5.1 - I was excited but since then calorie intake has been slightly increased and although I've lost another 4 pounds now, my morning fasting sugars are back up to high 5s - mid 6s - from which I conclude there is much more work for me to do - I will look at all the ND info on what is allowed and what not when doing it with real food - you have literally given me much food for thought!!Well it is a good question and one that will generate lots of debate so....
First of all you have to suspend your disbelief of the science which I have to do because I have not got access to all the clinical and research data and instead respond to the published theory. And the theory is that the ND is about removing the fat from the liver first and then working through to the pancreas. The liver isn't so hard, takes a week or two which is why people see good results really rapidly. The liver is able to absorb more - stops the big peeks.
The pancreas is much harder and takes about 8 weeks.
Now - if you go and eat a load of calories, and ones that interfere with the theory you need to start that process again. In my opinion.
That is the evidence of the first two trials at least. I recall watching an excellent video where Prof T said "... this is hard, 8 weeks is a long time, you cannot just nip to the pub - have a packet of crisps you have to stick to it...". Don't forget, and it still exists today - on the ND site there is a list of banned foods which include all dairy, meat - and much much more.
Since then - various side shows about "overall weight lost etc" but even in very recent published results - and in a personal email the team sent me (when I asked if I could borrow there pancreas scanner!) they impress the need to stick to it.
It is just my opinion and advice, if you are going to do it - do it properly - prepare yourself well and if you break it I would say it might be better to pause, regroup then go again. Lastly - if you do not follow it for 8 weeks - how do you know what the results are?
I've been reading up about this 800 calorie diet which states it can reverse things within 8-12 weeks and I'm wondering if I could get myself through that and if it really would reverse things or would I just go back again?
Unfortunately - blueberries are the highest carb of the things called berry and are double the carbs of - for instance - strawberries - so really best avoided.Do not eat, rice pasta, things made with flour, below the ground vegetables and fruit. The only fruit I have is a small handful of blueberries in some natural Greek yoghurt every evening. Blueberries are low carb.
Good luck
I am so goig to try the vinegar! thanx for the video