Inspiration Needed - Type 2 - How did you manage to reverse your Diabetes?

[Ziggyzog]

Type in google diabetes and apple cider vinegar. It’ll bring up a lot of resources on it. It just doesn’t allow me to put a link up here to that.

 

[Brunneria]

Hi @laurag2905

I think it is only fair to tell you that being over weight, having PCOS and type 2 together makes it MUCH harder to lose weight than for people with only one or two of those three things.

So the first thing I would suggest is that you accept that this will be longer, slower and harder for you than for other people.
That isn't intended to depress you. When I learned this (I am in the same boat as you), it was actually a HUGE relief to me. I mean, when everyone around you goes on diets, loses weight, celebrates and promotes their 'wonder method' as The Answer, then it gets very dispiriting when the same thing doesn't work for you, doesn't it? Enough to make you reach for a cream cake.

But when my endocrinologist explained to me that he was delighted and impressed that I wasn't gaining, and that every pound lost was a major achievement, it was such a relief! It kind of gave me permission to accept that what I was doing was OK.

So first off, give yourself some slack. You CAN still lose weight, and you can still benefit from getting control of your eating, being consistent, and so on. But it will probably take longer than for other people. There won't be any quick cures, but there could well be a gentle, steady progress.

Firstly, have a read around the internet on how PCOS benefits from low carbing and slightly higher protein in the diet. There is plenty of info out there. Several studies have show how PCOS responds better to LCarb than LCalorie.

Then, have a look at your cravings. If cravings regularly sabotage your low carbing, and happen every few weeks, then are they triggered by stress? emotions? tiredness? monthly hormones?

In my case it is all of them, with the stress/anger or tiredness causing sudden sharp MUST EAT NOW events, and the monthly hormones causing several days of milder I FANCY CHIPS AND HOT CHOCOLATE with the occasional HANGRY RAGE.

I find that understanding the process helps me to combat them, and I now have a much better handle on spotting and combatting. Besides, low carb hot choc is delicious.

Hope that helps!

 

[paulins]

I was diagnosed type 2 January 27 th 2014. My GP told me about an interesting article he had just read by an endocrinologist in Newcastle- professor Taylor- and his research. I went home, downloaded all the papers, read them and emailed GP to see if there was any medical reason I could not embark on the diet. None, so I began on January 28th. By the end of July I had lost more than 6 stones, bought a second hand treadmill, learned to run which I did 6 out if 7 days, and went from a size 20 to. Size 10. HbA1c went from 7.8 to 4.7.
More than four years later .. I am off the diabetes register, weigh the same as I did when I stopped dieting, run 6k for 6 out of 7 days, and my last HbA1c was 4.8. (My gp insists I have it done annually).
I am now fitter and healthier than I was in my 20s and 30s - but I am very careful as I want to stay reversed. All diets had also failed for me in the past. I have learned to cook lovely low carb meals, low carb sugar free desserts for treats, and have wine at the weekends. It can be done and it is worth it.
Hope this helps!

 

[ErylV]

Hi all

I'm new to the forums. I was diagnosed with Diabetes Type 2, 3 years ago I'm now 45 and although I've managed to get my levels down to HBA1c reading of 60, this is mainly through medication (4 x Metformin, 1 x Gliclazide, 1 x Candesartan, 1 x Avrostatin).

I really don't like taking medication and now find myself taking more than my parents! (My Dad is 82 and is on 5 tablets a day!)

I've struggled with my weight, currently 16 stone 7lbs and I've been trying to lose weight for the past 10 years using various options, slimming world, shakes, keto, exercise, low carb, counselling, hypnotherapy etc. etc. My problem is the weight loss is so slow, that I find 6 weeks down the line I've lost 3lb and then I end up having one bad day and the 3lbs are back! Its just very demotivating, because it takes me so long to lose it and I find low carb/keto works best for me but I can't seem to maintain it as I end up be it a week, 3 or 6 weeks down the line having major carb cravings and the weight quickly goes back on. Don't get me wrong, when I say carb cravings, I'm not eating as badly as I use to, no where near, but I could for example on a 'carb carving day', have 6 slices of brown toast, over the course of the day, 2 packets of crisps and a portion of shepherds pie. Which in the overall scheme of my history of eating, doesn't feel that bad, but still that kind of eating now ends with me quickly putting weight back on. I feel like I would need to eat like a mouse for the rest of my life to change things forever .

Its frustrating, because I understand that the science of it all 'is easy'. Its all to to do with how many calories you burn and how many you eat! Its not rocket science, but some how my head doesn't see it that way.

I've been reading up about this 800 calorie diet which states it can reverse things within 8-12 weeks and I'm wondering if I could get myself through that and if it really would reverse things or would I just go back again?

Has anyone here managed to reverse their diabetes? How did they reverse it and How much weight did you have to lose to achieve it? and have you manage to keep it off for any length of time?

I could do with some real inspiration

Take care

Laura

Good Evening Laura

I’m a 59 year old company director and diagnosed with Type 2 in 2009. Having a family history with Diabetes, I immediately cut sugar from my diet and over six years lost about four stone in weight (20.5 stone at diagnosis!) However, this did nothing to sort out my HBA1c levels and they escalated to over 90 by mid 2015. I also felt awful and demoralised. Big crisis in November 2015 leading to appointments with the NHS Diabetes Specialist and (thankfully) an NHS dietician. Lightbulb moment when I discovered the true nature of carbohydrates and understood what was causing my high blood sugar levels. I started doing some research and came across the concept of LCHF. I started talking to some experts here in Wales and was soon sufficiently convinced to give it a go in a modest way. The effect on my HBA1c was immediate and I became more and more convinced that this was the way forward. Two years later my HBA1c is down to 39 and my weight continues to decline slowly but I’m now sufficiently energised to go back to full time work. I also need to say that I started a daily exercise regime in 2016, walking mainly initially, and then joined a gym following a referral from my GP. I have come to understand that regular exercise ( to the point of a good sweat) is an integral part of the fight against Diabetes and encourage everyone cpoing with this disease to build it into their lifestyle. Amongst other benefits, the exercise provides a natural high that is motivational and helps combat the inevitable blues that come with the condition.

But I do know that it can be very hard sometimes. I have made it my business to learn about diabetes in depth and have a reasonably informed view of the damage that it does. Understanding the consequences of having prolonged high blood sugar levels is frightening and provides all the motivation to focus on and continue with The LCHF lifestyle. For me its not about weight loss, which is a very welcome side effect, but about the avoidence of the inevitable complications that failure to control this silent killer disease will cause.

Look at it positively- avoiding carbohydrates and doing moderate exercise will completely change your life and your prospects and will more than likely do away with the need for most of those pills. But please remember to keep your doctor in the loop as any change in your diet whilst taking medication can also cause serious adverse effects.

Good luck to you!

Eryl

 

[Norman590]

Hi all

I'm new to the forums. I was diagnosed with Diabetes Type 2, 3 years ago I'm now 45 and although I've managed to get my levels down to HBA1c reading of 60, this is mainly through medication (4 x Metformin, 1 x Gliclazide, 1 x Candesartan, 1 x Avrostatin).

I really don't like taking medication and now find myself taking more than my parents! (My Dad is 82 and is on 5 tablets a day!)

I've struggled with my weight, currently 16 stone 7lbs and I've been trying to lose weight for the past 10 years using various options, slimming world, shakes, keto, exercise, low carb, counselling, hypnotherapy etc. etc. My problem is the weight loss is so slow, that I find 6 weeks down the line I've lost 3lb and then I end up having one bad day and the 3lbs are back! Its just very demotivating, because it takes me so long to lose it and I find low carb/keto works best for me but I can't seem to maintain it as I end up be it a week, 3 or 6 weeks down the line having major carb cravings and the weight quickly goes back on. Don't get me wrong, when I say carb cravings, I'm not eating as badly as I use to, no where near, but I could for example on a 'carb carving day', have 6 slices of brown toast, over the course of the day, 2 packets of crisps and a portion of shepherds pie. Which in the overall scheme of my history of eating, doesn't feel that bad, but still that kind of eating now ends with me quickly putting weight back on. I feel like I would need to eat like a mouse for the rest of my life to change things forever .

Its frustrating, because I understand that the science of it all 'is easy'. Its all to to do with how many calories you burn and how many you eat! Its not rocket science, but some how my head doesn't see it that way.

I've been reading up about this 800 calorie diet which states it can reverse things within 8-12 weeks and I'm wondering if I could get myself through that and if it really would reverse things or would I just go back again?

Has anyone here managed to reverse their diabetes? How did they reverse it and How much weight did you have to lose to achieve it? and have you manage to keep it off for any length of time?

I could do with some real inspiration

Take care

Laura

Hi Laura

I know it is hard but you just have to stick with it. I have always been a foodie (and then some) but last October I was diagnosed T2D and thought it was the end of the world. But since then I have lost 2 and a half stone and I am in remission although I know I have still got to lose another stone and a half.

I am following a low carb regime, limiting myself to 100g Carbs a day and 1000 calories. I still had toast for breakfast today with butter and marmite, smoked haddock chowder for lunch and this evening, a Goan Prawn Curry with Dal Makhani, Rice and Spiced Mushrooms and still managed a glass of red wine in my allowance. It's all about portion control.

I sit down in the morning and plan my day's eating with my Carbs and Cals book and always leave some room for a few nuts or a bit of dark chocolate if I want a nibble. Just keep thinking how good it will feel to feel better.

 

[deb1960]

I started the lchf diet on the 6th of January this year and have lost 2 stone but much more importantly I have stopped using insulin and my BS is usually around 5 and 6.5 . I have alway's had a weight problem and have been on and off diets for the last 37 years but even when I was losing weight I always knew that I would put it all back on again. This time I KNOW that I will never be 16 stone again. This is because I finally realised that I would die young or lose my sight or even limbs. I have 2 grandsons who I want to see grow up and be fit enough to do things with them. I was having palpitations and a fast, irregular heartbeat and the consultant was talking about ablation but I don't have any heart symptoms at all now. My hba1c a couple of weeks ago was 37 so well below the diabetes threshold and my blood pressure is 100/60. I have porridge for breakfast which keeps me going till dinner at 6pm and am trying not to eat after 7 pm so that I am fasting for about 14 hours. I love crisps and crackers but I don't buy crisps anymore as I would be too tempted. I still buy crackers as my husband enjoys cheese and crackers with a glass of red wine and few times a week. I can honestly say that eating lchf is much more filling than eating bread and potatoes although I would still like to eat them if could. Good luck, Deb

 

[Fleegle]

Hi @laurag2905
Everything in my post you will need to discuss with your DR because I was not on meds so I do not know when and if you need to consider them when considering my advice here and earlier posts.

I have read your posts and all of the other posts and there is a ton of good advice in there. Rather than repeat it all here because most of it seemed really sensible, here is a list of things I think helped me and continue to do today. I found no one thing did any magic at all - except LC which drastically bought my BG down and gave me confidence to try more things. Then everything seemed to have a cumulative effect.
- LC - a must to get the BG down rapidly. Try no carbs for a few days. Make your ego go through the roof rather than your BG.
- I tried and quite enjoyed a 5 day 600 calorie week (low carb) and plan to do 6 of these this year.
- I added apple vinegar and cinnamon to my diet.
- I did the ND. I couldn't say I enjoyed that - but 8 weeks it wasn't hard and I found most of the warning to be false.
- I have done intermittent fasts - 1 day, 2 day with zero calories.
- I did a 5 day fast - I just had one or two teas with just enough milk it wasn't black. Hard as heck!!! Am going to do it agan!
- I walk, religiously 9,000 steps and more often 10-15,000 steps since Christmas.
- Most days now I only have tea three times a day before one main evening meal.
- I low carb every day - I try not to exceed 20g but at a weekend I can on occasion consume 70g so still low carb.
- Seek advice from multiple sources. Here is good but I am a member of another site - and three face book groups which are all subtly different and give you a broad perspective.

At the start of the process I read nearly every thread I could - took notes, researched everything and most importantly I think - was open minded to everything. If some one were to post that pole dancing reduced FBG in 10000 patients in a trial in four weeks, I would probably not critique the research but give it a go instead. Providing it looked harmless be open minded.

Good luck with the ND. It isn't so easy but it is important to plan it well - get friends family and work on board (no point planning a party in the middle of it) and try not to cheat. Personally I think if you have one day slip up - you go back to day one... But I am pretty hard on myself when I set a goal. And once it is finished, consider it the beginning of the journey not an end.

 

[masonap]

Hi all

I'm new to the forums. I was diagnosed with Diabetes Type 2, 3 years ago I'm now 45 and although I've managed to get my levels down to HBA1c reading of 60, this is mainly through medication (4 x Metformin, 1 x Gliclazide, 1 x Candesartan, 1 x Avrostatin).

I really don't like taking medication and now find myself taking more than my parents! (My Dad is 82 and is on 5 tablets a day!)

I've struggled with my weight, currently 16 stone 7lbs and I've been trying to lose weight for the past 10 years using various options, slimming world, shakes, keto, exercise, low carb, counselling, hypnotherapy etc. etc. My problem is the weight loss is so slow, that I find 6 weeks down the line I've lost 3lb and then I end up having one bad day and the 3lbs are back! Its just very demotivating, because it takes me so long to lose it and I find low carb/keto works best for me but I can't seem to maintain it as I end up be it a week, 3 or 6 weeks down the line having major carb cravings and the weight quickly goes back on. Don't get me wrong, when I say carb cravings, I'm not eating as badly as I use to, no where near, but I could for example on a 'carb carving day', have 6 slices of brown toast, over the course of the day, 2 packets of crisps and a portion of shepherds pie. Which in the overall scheme of my history of eating, doesn't feel that bad, but still that kind of eating now ends with me quickly putting weight back on. I feel like I would need to eat like a mouse for the rest of my life to change things forever .

Its frustrating, because I understand that the science of it all 'is easy'. Its all to to do with how many calories you burn and how many you eat! Its not rocket science, but some how my head doesn't see it that way.

I've been reading up about this 800 calorie diet which states it can reverse things within 8-12 weeks and I'm wondering if I could get myself through that and if it really would reverse things or would I just go back again?

Has anyone here managed to reverse their diabetes? How did they reverse it and How much weight did you have to lose to achieve it? and have you manage to keep it off for any length of time?

I could do with some real inspiration

Take care

Laura

I'm type 2 on Insulin and tablets. I don't know about 'reversing' my diabetes, but I do know that by going low carb I've lost a tone of weight, and I've halved my meds. My blood readings are nearly always great, my HbA1c readings are also fantastic. You did not mention exercise, this is very important, I walk a lot, I use an app on my iphone to measure daily steps and I don't always (ok not very often) make the recommended 10,000 steps per day but I try and I'm sure that it has made a difference.
I wish you luck.

 

[anderson3000]

Just wanted to add a good luck wish...I have been diabetic in denial for a few years and this year am trying to tackle it...at 98mmol I’m in a bad way, only on metformin because I took myself off an additional pill due to side effects...thank s to all those who have written guidance , because I am a sugar addict, I do good stuff then fall off the wagon. ...it can also be hard watching others success when one keeps tripping up....but I do keep coming back to this forum, almost all contributors have really given positive vibes and that’s what is needed...I am looking at you for inspiration!!, good luck !!!

 

[Beagler]

I feel a bit like your terrible twin - 16 1/2 stone, tried everything for weight loss, lose a couple of pounds and gain it again...only I don't think I have PCOS. And I wish I was still 45! I tried the 8 week and just couldn't hack it, my problem is I nibble. I eat a good (moderate carb, moderate fat) diet with good portion control, then snack snack snack. So my HbAc1 is staying firmly on 6.3 since the first one nearly two years ago, and my weight is staying firmly on 16 1/2 stone. Now I have been diagnosed with a fatty liver, and my feet are more "fuzzy" than ever.
I've been reading this forum for the last two years, too, and the impression I get is that turning your health around is easy IF YOU STICK TO IT. DO the blinking 8 week, GET your weight down, LEARN to like exercise...and your health problems will gently melt away.
And I will try to take my own advice. Good luck to both of us.

 

[bulkbiker]

I feel a bit like your terrible twin - 16 1/2 stone, tried everything for weight loss, lose a couple of pounds and gain it again...only I don't think I have PCOS. And I wish I was still 45! I tried the 8 week and just couldn't hack it, my problem is I nibble. I eat a good (moderate carb, moderate fat) diet with good portion control, then snack snack snack. So my HbAc1 is staying firmly on 6.3 since the first one nearly two years ago, and my weight is staying firmly on 16 1/2 stone. Now I have been diagnosed with a fatty liver, and my feet are more "fuzzy" than ever.
I've been reading this forum for the last two years, too, and the impression I get is that turning your health around is easy

Sounds like you are in that "half pregnant" phase where you are eating too many carbs to get into fat burning mode and not enough fat to trigger satiety. I can only recommend trying to lower your carb intake and up the fats and protein to make up. Maybe start a food diary to see what you are really eating and try to reduce from there.

 

[Beagler]

Sounds like you are in that "half pregnant" phase where you are eating too many carbs to get into fat burning mode and not enough fat to trigger satiety. I can only recommend trying to lower your carb intake and up the fats and protein to make up. Maybe start a food diary to see what you are really eating and try to reduce from there.

I have a nasty feeling you are right. I do have two nice little hardback notebooks full of scribbles of "what i have eaten today" but there are an awful lot of pages with a whole days good eating then a thick line through and "nibbles" written across the carb total. Must. Try . Harder.

 

[eggs11]

Hi @laurag2905

Good luck with the ND. It isn't so easy but it is important to plan it well - get friends family and work on board (no point planning a party in the middle of it) and try not to cheat. Personally I think if you have one day slip up - you go back to day one... But I am pretty hard on myself when I set a goal. And once it is finished, consider it the beginning of the journey not an end.

Hi @Fleegle - when you say if you have a day slip up you back back to day one, how do you think this stops/damages the progress?

 

[Mascr2000]

Hi all

I'm new to the forums. I was diagnosed with Diabetes Type 2, 3 years ago I'm now 45 and although I've managed to get my levels down to HBA1c reading of 60, this is mainly through medication (4 x Metformin, 1 x Gliclazide, 1 x Candesartan, 1 x Avrostatin).

I really don't like taking medication and now find myself taking more than my parents! (My Dad is 82 and is on 5 tablets a day!)

I've struggled with my weight, currently 16 stone 7lbs and I've been trying to lose weight for the past 10 years using various options, slimming world, shakes, keto, exercise, low carb, counselling, hypnotherapy etc. etc. My problem is the weight loss is so slow, that I find 6 weeks down the line I've lost 3lb and then I end up having one bad day and the 3lbs are back! Its just very demotivating, because it takes me so long to lose it and I find low carb/keto works best for me but I can't seem to maintain it as I end up be it a week, 3 or 6 weeks down the line having major carb cravings and the weight quickly goes back on. Don't get me wrong, when I say carb cravings, I'm not eating as badly as I use to, no where near, but I could for example on a 'carb carving day', have 6 slices of brown toast, over the course of the day, 2 packets of crisps and a portion of shepherds pie. Which in the overall scheme of my history of eating, doesn't feel that bad, but still that kind of eating now ends with me quickly putting weight back on. I feel like I would need to eat like a mouse for the rest of my life to change things forever .

Its frustrating, because I understand that the science of it all 'is easy'. Its all to to do with how many calories you burn and how many you eat! Its not rocket science, but some how my head doesn't see it that way.

I've been reading up about this 800 calorie diet which states it can reverse things within 8-12 weeks and I'm wondering if I could get myself through that and if it really would reverse things or would I just go back again?

Has anyone here managed to reverse their diabetes? How did they reverse it and How much weight did you have to lose to achieve it? and have you manage to keep it off for any length of time?

I could do with some real inspiration

Take care

Laura

I reversed my type 2 diabetes with a low carb diet. Quite strict but worth it as I feel great now. The diet is not easy to start with as you do get carb withdrawals and you do need a transition period but gradually wean yourself off the carbs and watch your HBA1c reading normalise. I have been at 5.1 to 5.3 for the last year and will be off the metformin all together by the end of this month. Loosing weight helps and you will loose weight with the low carb diet as long as you keep on top of the fats too. Low carb diet is easy to follow, it is basically eat meat, fish, above the ground vegetables, cheese and yoghurt and eggs. Check the labels of everything you buy to make sure the carb content is low and remember that nearly everything you buy in a supermarket has added sugar and things like sausages have bread added or flour for thickening.
Do not eat, rice pasta, things made with flour, below the ground vegetables and fruit. The only fruit I have is a small handful of blueberries in some natural Greek yoghurt every evening. Blueberries are low carb.
I do eat tomatoes (they are a fruit) but only 4 baby tomatoes at a time. Don't buy the low fat varieties of stuff, tends to have a higher carb content as they add sugar to compensate for the lack of taste.
I make a kind of bread from coconut flour and eggs which I have for breakfast and anytime I am needing a snack, spread with full fat butter of course!
As for drinks no alcohol, fruit juice or fizzy drinks - all have added sugar and high carb content.
I drink water, tea and coffee with a little milk. Don't have latte or cappuccino type coffee as the amount of milk in them makes it high carb. Be very careful of sugar free packeted coffee drinks, they can have up to 20 grams of sugar added.
Good luck

 

[DCUKMod]

I was diagnosed type 2 January 27 th 2014. My GP told me about an interesting article he had just read by an endocrinologist in Newcastle- professor Taylor- and his research. I went home, downloaded all the papers, read them and emailed GP to see if there was any medical reason I could not embark on the diet. None, so I began on January 28th. By the end of July I had lost more than 6 stones, bought a second hand treadmill, learned to run which I did 6 out if 7 days, and went from a size 20 to. Size 10. HbA1c went from 7.8 to 4.7.
More than four years later .. I am off the diabetes register, weigh the same as I did when I stopped dieting, run 6k for 6 out of 7 days, and my last HbA1c was 4.8. (My gp insists I have it done annually).
I am now fitter and healthier than I was in my 20s and 30s - but I am very careful as I want to stay reversed. All diets had also failed for me in the past. I have learned to cook lovely low carb meals, low carb sugar free desserts for treats, and have wine at the weekends. It can be done and it is worth it.
Hope this helps!

Pauline!! Fantastic to see you post. Glad you're still doing really well.

 

[Fleegle]

Hi @Fleegle - when you say if you have a day slip up you back back to day one, how do you think this stops/damages the progress?

Well it is a good question and one that will generate lots of debate so....

First of all you have to suspend your disbelief of the science which I have to do because I have not got access to all the clinical and research data and instead respond to the published theory. And the theory is that the ND is about removing the fat from the liver first and then working through to the pancreas. The liver isn't so hard, takes a week or two which is why people see good results really rapidly. The liver is able to absorb more - stops the big peeks.
The pancreas is much harder and takes about 8 weeks.

Now - if you go and eat a load of calories, and ones that interfere with the theory you need to start that process again. In my opinion.

That is the evidence of the first two trials at least. I recall watching an excellent video where Prof T said "... this is hard, 8 weeks is a long time, you cannot just nip to the pub - have a packet of crisps you have to stick to it...". Don't forget, and it still exists today - on the ND site there is a list of banned foods which include all dairy, meat - and much much more.

Since then - various side shows about "overall weight lost etc" but even in very recent published results - and in a personal email the team sent me (when I asked if I could borrow there pancreas scanner!) they impress the need to stick to it.

It is just my opinion and advice, if you are going to do it - do it properly - prepare yourself well and if you break it I would say it might be better to pause, regroup then go again. Lastly - if you do not follow it for 8 weeks - how do you know what the results are?

 

[eggs11]

Well it is a good question and one that will generate lots of debate so....

First of all you have to suspend your disbelief of the science which I have to do because I have not got access to all the clinical and research data and instead respond to the published theory. And the theory is that the ND is about removing the fat from the liver first and then working through to the pancreas. The liver isn't so hard, takes a week or two which is why people see good results really rapidly. The liver is able to absorb more - stops the big peeks.
The pancreas is much harder and takes about 8 weeks.

Now - if you go and eat a load of calories, and ones that interfere with the theory you need to start that process again. In my opinion.

That is the evidence of the first two trials at least. I recall watching an excellent video where Prof T said "... this is hard, 8 weeks is a long time, you cannot just nip to the pub - have a packet of crisps you have to stick to it...". Don't forget, and it still exists today - on the ND site there is a list of banned foods which include all dairy, meat - and much much more.

Since then - various side shows about "overall weight lost etc" but even in very recent published results - and in a personal email the team sent me (when I asked if I could borrow there pancreas scanner!) they impress the need to stick to it.

It is just my opinion and advice, if you are going to do it - do it properly - prepare yourself well and if you break it I would say it might be better to pause, regroup then go again. Lastly - if you do not follow it for 8 weeks - how do you know what the results are?

Thanks @Fleegle - all very interesting. I had done around 8 weeks at 1000 calories, there was a certain point for a week when I'd lost 22 pounds where my fbg suddenly normalised - went to bed on 4.9, woke to 5.1 - I was excited but since then calorie intake has been slightly increased and although I've lost another 4 pounds now, my morning fasting sugars are back up to high 5s - mid 6s - from which I conclude there is much more work for me to do - I will look at all the ND info on what is allowed and what not when doing it with real food - you have literally given me much food for thought!!

 

[Zilsniggy]

I've been reading up about this 800 calorie diet which states it can reverse things within 8-12 weeks and I'm wondering if I could get myself through that and if it really would reverse things or would I just go back again?

If you go back to the standard diet after a diet like this, the diabetes WILL return. It's not really reversed but CONTROLLED. Look at what you are eating. I have managed to get my HbA1c down to 42 by eating a low carb ketogenic diet. If you do it properly, by working out the correct proportions of macronutrients for your ideal weight, you can't help but lose weight. You are in a calorie deficit by then which results in weight loss, also a state of controlled ketosis which helps burn fat. you can't play with this diet or way of eating, you must be strict with yourself, as any cheats will just kick you out of ketosis, and the effort you've put in, to that point will be useless. Whatever you do, though, you should get some medical advice, because low carb or keto on top of gliclazide could cause you to have serious low blood sugars. Toast, crisps and shepherds pie don't have any place on keto, It's the carbs that ultimately, we can't cope with, so reducing those will help.

 

[Resurgam]

Do not eat, rice pasta, things made with flour, below the ground vegetables and fruit. The only fruit I have is a small handful of blueberries in some natural Greek yoghurt every evening. Blueberries are low carb.

Good luck

Unfortunately - blueberries are the highest carb of the things called berry and are double the carbs of - for instance - strawberries - so really best avoided.

 

[Ziggyzog]

I am so goig to try the vinegar! thanx for the video

Your welcome let me know how it works for you