Newly diagnosed

donneecox

Member
Messages
5
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi, I have just been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I am about to start my 4th week on metformin, increasing to 4 tablets a day.
I have seen the diabetic nurse three weeks ago which told me to cut down carbs, smaller food portions and exercise, come back in three months.
I have literally reduces as much sugar and carbs as possible.
I have increased exercise to 8 sessions a week, with one day off.
I have noticed that I am feeling shaky, and could do with a boost (not the chocolate bar)
I haven’t been given anything to check my levels.
Any advice
Thanks
 

Alexandra100

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,742
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
I haven’t been given anything to check my levels.
I'm afraid nowadays most GPs don't give free meters and strips for testing to T2s. Here is some guidance on getting your own meter:
In the UK you can get a free TEE2 meter and starter kit here:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
or you can buy a CodeFree meter starter kit for £12.89 here:
https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/codefree-blood-glucose-monitoring-system-mmoll-or-mgdl/
These are the meters many of us on this Forum who self-fund use. They are about the same as to accuracy. You will need to buy strips to go with them, and these 2 meters have the cheapest replacement strips. Don't forget to check the box to say you are diabetic when you buy in order to avoid paying VAT.
Each kit comes with 10 free lancets. Some of us (me included) re-use our lancets many times, others prefer to throw them away and use a new one each time. If you decide to re-use, the initial free lancets will last you a long time. It is the strips that are quickly used up!
 

JoKalsbeek

Expert
Messages
5,960
Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi, I have just been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I am about to start my 4th week on metformin, increasing to 4 tablets a day.
I have seen the diabetic nurse three weeks ago which told me to cut down carbs, smaller food portions and exercise, come back in three months.
I have literally reduces as much sugar and carbs as possible.
I have increased exercise to 8 sessions a week, with one day off.
I have noticed that I am feeling shaky, and could do with a boost (not the chocolate bar)
I haven’t been given anything to check my levels.
Any advice
Thanks
Get a meter. Really, you're flying blind without one. Others here will know which one, and where to get it; they'll be along soon. Cutting carbs may cause temporary carb flu (drink a lot, and take extra salt!), or you may be experiencing false hypo's. If your body's used to high bloodsugar, it'll react as if there's a hypo when you drop below your usual bs. That's one of the many things where a meter comes in handy! To know whether you should eat something, or ride it out... @daisy1 will have a wonderful load of information for you. But it sounds like you're off to a flying start. But it's hard to take control of something when you can't see what effect your efforts are having. Test, test, test some more. (Usually before a meal and 2 hours after first bite. If you go up more than 2, the meal was too carby.). This is a wonderful places to start, and people more knowlegable than I abound...
 

xfieldok

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,182
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Welcome to the forum. You may have a touch of keto flu, Google it. You may have reduced your carbs quickly, it should pass in a few days.

You should get hold of a meter. It is the most important tool we have. Test when you get up in the morning, before meals and 2 hours after the first bite. Log all your results in a spreadsheet or use an app, I use mySugr.

Also keep a detailed food diary, it will tell you what foods cause spikes. Record the amount of portion size, sometimes we just need to reduce down a bit.
 

Concordjan

Well-Known Member
Messages
234
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Not very good on computers!
You may feel shaky because you are used to having high sugar levels. Your levels now are probably not too low but may be normal. Unless you get a meter and check you can't be sure.
 

donneecox

Member
Messages
5
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Thanks for the reply.
I do feel I am doing this blindfolded and unsure of what I’m doing is correct.
 

xfieldok

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,182
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Stick with this forum. Ask lots of questions.
 

Bluetit1802

Legend
Messages
25,216
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
If you buy the Codefree meter as mentioned above, there are discount codes if you buy in bulk.
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833

Apply the codes at the checkout. You only need one meter, but you will need many thousands of strips, so bear that in mind when buying a meter. Some meters have extremely expensive strips.
 

Mick1959

Well-Known Member
Messages
151
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Thanks for the reply.
I do feel I am doing this blindfolded and unsure of what I’m doing is correct.

Hi and welcome to this wonderful, informative and friendly corner of t'interweb.

First, if you were like me, you have been totally baffled by the diagnosis, and feel like a ship lost at sea without a rudder with so much going through your mind and wondering if you are making the right choices, despite professionals providing information.

But, these forums have many members who can offer much practical advice from their own experiences, from which you can pick and adapt as you wish to suit your own particular requirements, as we are all individuals

For myself, best advice I have received as a beginner in this world has been:
1. get a meter to test my blood, as this allows you to monitor your blood and see what causes the rises/ falls
2. the Low Carb High Fat diet - I adapt to my own personal needs
3. join in on the forums and don't think any question you need answering is too trivial

Wishing you all the best
 

daisy1

Legend
Messages
26,457
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Cruelty towards animals.
@donneecox

Hello Donneecox and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful and interesting. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.