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Mick Lucani

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Newly diagnosed, type 2 diet only right now

I'm told you can put it in remission by being good
 

Juicyj

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Hello @Mick Lucani and welcome ;)

Tagging @daisy1 for new members information, lots of advice to follow.
 

Bluetit1802

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Hello and welcome,

Yes, you can put it into remission, but it all depends on what you think "being good" is. :) It takes a lot of effort and motivation, but many, many on this forum have achieved "remission".

Have a good read round, and ask as many questions as you like.
 
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Mick Lucani

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Keeping fit, eating healthily, cutting out the booze, that's how I would see being good...as I used to do at one time

The info on carbs is a little bit confusiing, you can't excercise without carbs.. speaking as an ex competitive and club cycling, carbs were the god of all foods to me then
 
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bulkbiker

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Keeping fit, eating healthily, cutting out the booze, that's how I would see being good...as I used to do at one time

The info on carbs is a little bit confusiing, you can't excercise without carbs.. speaking as an ex competitive and club cyclucy, carbs were the god of all foods to me then
Maybe get Prof Tim Noakes new book.. you know the guy who tore out the pages on carb loading in his "The Lore of Running" . Lots of endurance athletes are now looking at ketogenic diets as a way to overcome "bonking"... by running on fat rather than carbs you don't run out of energy. And as you now have Type 2 diabetes (according to your avatar) then carbs won't be great for you any more.
 

Mick Lucani

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Maybe get Prof Tim Noakes new book.. you know the guy who tore out the pages on carb loading in his "The Lore of Running" . Lots of endurance athletes are now looking at ketogenic diets as a way to overcome "bonking"... by running on fat rather than carbs you don't run out of energy. And as you now have Type 2 diabetes (according to your avatar) then carbs won't be great for you any more.

Lol...well I've plenty of fat to burn too, I'm not a small guy but 20st is a bit much .

Thanks for that info
 

There is no Spoon

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I reversed my Type 2
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Keeping fit, eating healthily, cutting out the booze, that's how I would see being good...as I used to do at one time
This is all putting you in the right direction mate.

Here is the basic idea for reversing diabetes. :bookworm:
You have to much belly fat which is stopping the liver form doing its job properly. Solve that problem and the liver can work properly again.

So its simple be "good" to your liver and your liver will be "good" to you. ;)
:bag:
 
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Mickw 2

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Being good is about calorie intake , it take 3 months of total commitment. No cheating. I believe it' a max calorie intake of 2000. Cal per day plus the other stuff you mention .im type one with a pump and well controlled but had I got choice is try it. And I cycle for my fitness.
 
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Mick Lucani

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This is all putting you in the right direction mate.

Here is the basic idea for reversing diabetes. :bookworm:
You have to much belly fat which is stopping the liver form doing its job properly. Solve that problem and the liver can work properly again.

So its simple be "good" to your liver and your liver will be "good" to you. ;)
:bag:
Thanks for that...I'd never given my liver much thought before but yes, can understand that.

Bike out this weekend...not been out in 2 years so we shall see how it goes
 

There is no Spoon

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but yes, can understand that.
Ok good,
now the next thing to understand is through inactivity our muscles have become Insulin Resistant (IR) which puts a strain on the liver. The more muscles you use in exercise the better your IR becomes and the less strain on the liver.

Now think of it like this bike = leg muscles.
Swimming = arm and leg muscles.
More muscles you can use "activate" when exercising the better.

Cycling is great cardio which is good, but it's about activation of lots of muscles all doing there little bit to help IR which adds up to a lot. ;)
:bag:
 

daisy1

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@Mick Lucani

Hello Mick and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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Mick Lucani

Member
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Ok good,
now the next thing to understand is through inactivity our muscles have become Insulin Resistant (IR) which puts a strain on the liver. The more muscles you use in exercise the better your IR becomes and the less strain on the liver.

Now think of it like this bike = leg muscles.
Swimming = arm and leg muscles.
More muscles you can use "activate" when exercising the better.

Cycling is great cardio which is good, but it's about activation of lots of muscles all doing there little bit to help IR which adds up to a lot. ;)
:bag:
Back, shoulders and arm muscles are all used when cycling, if you ride correctly. If you ride in the sit up and beg position and soft pedal then yes, legs only .
But on a road bike in the regular position you will be using your lower back, shoulders and forearms to power yourself along
 

Mick Lucani

Member
Messages
10
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
@Mick Lucani

Hello Mick and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
Most interesting and helpful, thanks