Type 2 Cold Feet and smooth legs

Alexandra100

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I am now worried about calcified walls of arteries not reversed. Anyone know anything about this?
My fault, I should have given the link to the whole chapter. In it Dr Bernstein tells the whole story of his life with diabetes. It is clear that because from his diagnosis of T1 at the age of 11 he was instructed to eat a high carb diet, his health was terribly damaged before he got hold of a bg meter and began learning to eat low carb. He only just survived. He is a living example of the fact that advanced diabetic complications can be reversed. There he is, still treating patients at age 83 and apparently as fit as a fiddle. If you doubt this, towards the end of each month he replies to questions in a phone-in, so you can check out his continuing vim and vigour (not to mention slight tetchiness) for yourself. So, do like DR B, eat low carb, and don't worry!

http://www.diabetes-book.com/bernstein-life-with-diabetes/
 
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It is the advice on dosages that puts me off buying even the cheapo versions. There are such varying amounts given that one wouldn't know if a dose was effective or not or even if a particular dosage constituted dangerous levels.
I am more worried about the other rubbish they put into these pills. (And into prescription medicines too.)
 

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I am more worried about the other rubbish they put into these pills. (And into prescription medicines too.)

Especially from £Shops. The merchandise often comes from countries that may not be as scrupulous in their health and safety checks. There have been a few cases of fake/knock off goods sold on the high street in these shops that have put peoples lives at risk. I tend not to buy from them.
 

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Especially from £Shops. The merchandise often comes from countries that may not be as scrupulous in their health and safety checks. There have been a few cases of fake/knock off goods sold on the high street in these shops that have put peoples lives at risk. I tend not to buy from them.
This must be the article which persuaded me that at least the supplements from £ shops are fine.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...et-rivals-The-answer-amaze-save-100-year.html
 

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Alexandra100

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Thank you for posting the link. You may think I am being contrary here but I would no more take advice from the DM than buy vits from a £Shop. It was kind of you to take the time to find the info for me and I do appreciate it.
I take your point! Do you see the DM as better or worse than the DE? I appreciate your courtesy, but I promise not to be upset by honest disagreement.
 

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I take your point! Do you see the DM as better or worse than the DE? I appreciate your courtesy, but I promise not to be upset by honest disagreement.

I look on it like this, the papers that tend to cater to people who regard anything in print as gospel do not figure highly with me. I havn't bought a magazine or newspaper of any description in decades. With something as important as health I will search for unbiased opinion (it is often very hard to find unbiased in these cases but I do try). The broadsheets are sometimes only marginally better at getting things right.
These are just my own personal views borne of years of being scammed by e.g food manufactures claims and Big Pharma claims. I am afraid that it has left me with a nasty suspicious outlook.
 

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I look on it like this, the papers that tend to cater to people who regard anything in print as gospel do not figure highly with me. I havn't bought a magazine or newspaper of any description in decades. With something as important as health I will search for unbiased opinion (it is often very hard to find unbiased in these cases but I do try). The broadsheets are sometimes only marginally better at getting things right.
These are just my own personal views borne of years of being scammed by e.g food manufactures claims and Big Pharma claims. I am afraid that it has left me with a nasty suspicious outlook.
I don't accept anything as gospel (not even the Gospels!) Like you, I don't buy newspapers, but when I am in a supermarket I have a quick scan of the front pages. They sometimes alert me to an interesting health story, but I'd trust no journalist on whatever paper to understand and correctly report research. I imagine most people here feel much the same. After all, if we were happy to be scammed, we'd all be peacefully polishing off our Eatwell plates, not bothering to enquire or debate.
 

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Only on males? Thats not only very unfair but not likely considering the previous posts!
In males there is a very clear "tide mark" where you would normally expect coarser hair in an adult. Cannot assume that this would be apparent in the average Type 1 female! I've never compared ankles in a waiting room!
Interesting that Type 2s seem to be able to regain hair, but I never did - it didn't grow as expected in the first place.
 

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I don't accept anything as gospel (not even the Gospels!) Like you, I don't buy newspapers, but when I am in a supermarket I have a quick scan of the front pages. They sometimes alert me to an interesting health story, but I'd trust no journalist on whatever paper to understand and correctly report research. I imagine most people here feel much the same. After all, if we were happy to be scammed, we'd all be peacefully polishing off our Eatwell plates, not bothering to enquire or debate.

I couldn't agree more. A healthy dose of scepticism is my only supplement :)
 

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In males there is a very clear "tide mark" where you would normally expect coarser hair in an adult. Cannot assume that this would be apparent in the average Type 1 female! I've never compared ankles in a waiting room!
Interesting that Type 2s seem to be able to regain hair, but I never did - it didn't grow as expected in the first place.
Reading this, I have realised for the first time that the embarrassing hair that used to grow on my toes has disappeared along with the hair on my calves. So diabetes has at least one important benefit to offer! I am now wondering whether the hair that has disappeared from my armpits was also seen off by high bg levels.
 
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Chilly feet and lower legs, and hairless lower legs ( and blotchy thighs) can be a symptom of PAD (Peripheral Arterial Disease).
I was diagnosed by a vascular specialist after a referral by a podiatrist.
Not nice but specialist said looking after blood sugars and exercise are the two biggest helps with PAD.
 

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One thing that has changed for me in the last six months is my feet are much colder. I used to pad around the house barefoot all year round but now need socks. On the other hand I have the benefit of almost non hairy legs! I assume this is a change in my circulation due to Diabetes and I suspect I had it for some time before diagnosis.
I have adopted a LCH/MF diet and I feel and look better than I have for a long while. My second HBA1C was much improved but I still have challenges with numbers at certain times of day. In fact I think this condition will never be perfect and will be challenging as the years roll by. I am not a fan of saying it is reversed because I think even with great care it is hiding in the shadows. BUT this forum and the people on it have helped me understand it better which is priceless. Keep it coming!
Ketogenic meal plan works wonders

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@PenguinMum what does tea tree oil do? Do you apply on ingrown nails? I am suffering from ingrown toenail too. My feet always cold since become D2. Thanks

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I regularly get irritation where the nail digs in and sometimes a little bit of pus forms which can be the start of infection. I hate taking antibiotics but I discovered keeping the area clean and filling the crack with Tea Tree oil and changing socks 2 or 3 times a day works a treat. It is an excellent antiseptic.
 

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Chilly feet and lower legs, and hairless lower legs ( and blotchy thighs) can be a symptom of PAD (Peripheral Arterial Disease).
I was diagnosed by a vascular specialist after a referral by a podiatrist.
Not nice but specialist said looking after blood sugars and exercise are the two biggest helps with PAD.
Thanks for that info Jo. I defo need to exercise more. I think it can also be an indication of heart issues. Though they have improved I still have work to do on reducing my BG after 4 months and these bits of info are motivating. How do your legs and feet feel with PAD?
 

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My feet started to become cold only this winter. Like a burning cold, but only during the day. Evenings and nighttime they were fine. My job is very sedentary, sitting in a car, meeting or in front of a computer, so I started walking a lot more and that seems to help
 

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My right foot tends to be colder than my left. I have very little hair on my shins and calves along with large patches of brown pigmentation, which my GP told me, with a degree of satisfaction, that it was down to poor circulation. Anything I could do about it I asked. No, came the answer.... so I took up some yoga stretching exercises, which has helped.... I think.