How long until I get control?

gav_red

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Hi everyone. I was diagnosed last Friday with type 2 and my levels in the surgery were over 20 mmol/l. I immediately started taking metoformin and reduced my carb intake to less than 100g per day and my levels dropped to about 12 mmol/l over the weekend.

My question is how long does it take to get levels between 5-7 because my levels have stayed over 10 since then?

I am 34 years old, male, 71kg, 5'6'', and exercise 4 times a week if that makes a difference.

Any help appreciated

Gavin
 

Guzzler

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Hello and welcome. Tagging @daisy1 for the info pack offered to all newcomers.

Your question of how long it takes to reach your optimal blood glucose levels is like asking how long is a piece of string. Some people see a reduction in days, others see improvement in weeks but this depends on more than just one factor. Diet, excercise, medications, stress levels and sleep etc all affect bg levels.

Have a wander around the forum and ask as many questions as you like.
 

Freema

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Hi everyone. I was diagnosed last Friday with type 2 and my levels in the surgery were over 20 mmol/l. I immediately started taking metoformin and reduced my carb intake to less than 100g per day and my levels dropped to about 12 mmol/l over the weekend.

My question is how long does it take to get levels between 5-7 because my levels have stayed over 10 since then?

I am 34 years old, male, 71kg, 5'6'', and exercise 4 times a week if that makes a difference.

Any help appreciated

Gavin


it took me two month, but my HbA1c took around 5 month to get down to normal... just keep ypour nose in the track, you are doing the best you can do, and I am sure you´ll soon se numbers under 7mmol wish you a good ride there, remember there are lots of felicious treats you can in fact eat even when still being doing the low carb eating style..
here is a link to some fine recipes :
https://ketodietapp.com/Blog/category/Recipes?page=1
 

Resurgam

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I can't eat as much carb as that - you might need to drop the level down bit by bit to see just how low you need to go to start to reverse things - once the process started it seemed less important to stay low carb, but I got down to 8 mmol/l after meals before things started to change. BG went down quite smoothly at first, then went quite erratic for a while before settling down into more normal levels. I think there are quite a number of changes which need to be made before everything is back as it should be - or at least heading in the right direction, it is not just a simple alteration which gets the job done in one go.
My main problem now is that eating as many carbs as I could cope with and still keep my BG steady would result in weight gain, so I need to be careful - I gain weight so easily these days, which indicates that my insulin sensitivity has improved.
If you eat to your meter at first so as to lower BG then that is the first hurdle taken.
 

There is no Spoon

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Any help appreciated
Hi Gavin,
OK so to be clear your asking for some kind of time frame based on having absolutely no understand of who you are and the subtleties which effect your own diabetes.

Sure no problemo. About 3 months. :bookworm:

3 months from now should be when you have your next blood test.

Then you will have an accurate picture of where you blood glucose levels (bg) are at. You will have a better understanding of which foods are good for you, don't raise your bg. And a better understanding of your condition.

I'm no expert, but going from a 20 down to a 10 in a week sounds pretty impressive, mate. :)

How long will it take to get even lower there are so many factors that it is impossible to say.
But people can do it in weeks, a couple of months. Not years.
Took me about 5 months, (and I wasn't trying very hard for the first 3) if that helps. :p
But it's not going to happen over the weekend.

But again it boils down to individual circumstances. ;)
:bag:
 

daisyduck

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You've halved it in less than a week. That's great going!
Looks like you have a meter and that will be your best friend. Test to see what foods spike you and which you are OK with.
It's a marathon not a sprint and you've made a great start
 
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daisy1

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@gav_red

Hello Gavin and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful and interesting. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

gav_red

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Thanks for all the responses, much appreciated. Got a lot to learn!!!
 

Daibell

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Hi. Just keep going and see where you are in a few weeks. 100gm carb is a good medium level target. Metformin never has that much effect so don't rely on that but the low-carbs should help a lot. If your BS is still high after a few weeks on 100gm carb or less and you are slim then suspect late onset T1 and not T2 and discuss that with the GP and ask for the T1 tests. Age 34 is in general too young for T2 unless you are obese and you aren't.
 

Rachox

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Well done on getting your levels down so far. I started on less than 100g/day but my blood sugars plateaued at six weeks at a level higher than I wanted, so I then reduced to 50-70g/day which did the trick. In recent months I have naturally lowered to 40-60g per day. That’s just my story but keep up the good work, as others have said it’s not an overnight fix.