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RIFFRAFF 2

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Morning all,
I’ve just been diagnosed with type 2 Diabetes (yesterday), and while I understand all the implications (I am 67), I’m so far, at a loss as to what to eat for breakfast ?
I love(d) my food and ate almost everything, but my breakfast varied between porridge, corn flakes and toast with jam...my question is, what CAN I eat that will cut down on my sugar intake at breakfast please ? Any suggestions would be more than welcome
 

dbr10

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Morning all,
I’ve just been diagnosed with type 2 Diabetes (yesterday), and while I understand all the implications (I am 67), I’m so far, at a loss as to what to eat for breakfast ?
I love(d) my food and ate almost everything, but my breakfast varied between porridge, corn flakes and toast with jam...my question is, what CAN I eat that will cut down on my sugar intake at breakfast please ? Any suggestions would be more than welcome
Try this.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/
 

xfieldok

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Lose the porridge, cornflakes, toast, jam! Try bacon and eggs. Sometimes I have 97 percent meat sausage. Read the ingredients. I also gave up tea because milk raises my BG. Coffee with cream is ok. Are you getting a meter?
 
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Terrytiddy

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Welcome to the forum @RIFFRAFF 2, you have come to the right place for help and great advice. Are you overweight? What are you Bs? What was your HbA1c? What medication are you on? You can still love food, it depends what your goal is. Low Carb High Fat (LCHF) I find works for me. I have a lot of weight to shift also get my HbA1c down. Good luck.
 

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Hello @RIFFRAFF 2 Welcome to the forum :)

Tagging @daisy1 for our new members information which is a useful read for you.
 

Resurgam

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I treat breakfast as a proper meal - just as it used to be before breakfast cereals were designed.
I have whatever I fancy - today I had some salad left from yesterday so I had a tin of tuna with it, but omelettes, kippers and chops are all possible breakfasts.
 

Bluetit1802

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If you don't already have a meter I strongly advise you to buy one otherwise you are just guessing with your food choices and working blind.

Personally I don't have any carbs for breakfast. I just have a coffee with cream.

Have a good read round and ask a lot of questions.

It always helps us if you state which diabetes meds you take, if any.
 

HICHAM_T2

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Welcome to this forum
I personally develo ped a plan I think for a fairly successful final

I avoid eating carbohydrates in the morning and evening only based on one meal namely lunch
In breakfast or dinner are often either fish or eggs and some coffee
 

Mal37

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Morning all,
I’ve just been diagnosed with type 2 Diabetes (yesterday), and while I understand all the implications (I am 67), I’m so far, at a loss as to what to eat for breakfast ?
I love(d) my food and ate almost everything, but my breakfast varied between porridge, corn flakes and toast with jam...my question is, what CAN I eat that will cut down on my sugar intake at breakfast please ? Any suggestions would be more than welcome
This is what I eat ... and keeps me in the right blood glucose levels of no more than a 2mml rise ... sometimes less. Porridge made with coconut milk/water mix, then sprinkle on ground ginger and cinnamon ... followed by a tablespoon of mixed Chia and Fennel seeds, then a small handful of pumpkin seeds ... then either 7 Raspberries or a few Blueberries ... all laced with double cream! YUMMY
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum. Breakfast for me usually centers around eggs and bacon. If I add sausages (Heck sausages or a brand called Debby and Andrew's are high meat content) I always look at the labels to check the carbohydrate levels. I do this with all foodstuffs. It is the carbohydrates that affect those of us with Type 2 Diabetes and Pre Diabetes.

Have a wander around the forum, there is a lot to learn. And ask as many questions as you like.
 
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Robbity

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Coffee and cream will often be enough once your body gets used to using its own fat stores when necessary, but cheese, hot or cold meats, nuts/seeds, eggs in various forms, sausages, bacon, fish, savoury or sweet low carb muffins, full fat yoghurt with or without berries.... If it's low carb you can eat it for breakfast - cereals or low carb replacements aren't the only options!

Robbity
 

Daibell

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First think carbs not just sugar. I have eggs and bacon plus a little home made muesli with cold milk. Cold oats are better than hot as the oat cell breakdown is less hence slower absorption.
 

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@RIFFRAFF 2

Hello Riffraff 2 and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Beefeater

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I have a fried breakfast. 300g mushrooms, slice black pudding, two eggs, extra thick rasher of bacon all fried in dripping. No carbs. Consequence of this. I lost three stone in three months and my stats are normal ( if there is such a thing).
 

marvinlzinn1

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You are quite normal with sugar as most people. You just need to know the cause of your illness and break the addiction immediately. When I learned it, getting rid of my habits were not easy, so I just broke the sugar by drinking straight lemon and ate nothing containing added sugar. I never had diabetes, but that action prevented it.
 

Jim_in_NZ

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Welcome to the forum, Riffraff 2. Cooked breakfasts as suggested above can be very low carb, but you must check the carb ratings of everything, either on the label or on a website like nutritiondata.self.com. You will find that, for example, even though Beefeater says there's no carbs in his breakfast, he may be eating about 10 grams of carbs (9g in the mushrooms, 1g in the eggs, possibly a bit more in the black pudding and bacon). If you're on 50g of carbs per day then 10g for breakfast is fine (so long as you count them). But if you are going ketogenic (20g per day), you need to realise that's half of your daily allowance.
I alternate various cooked breakfasts with home-made grain-free granola made with chopped nuts, seeds, coconut, and a bit of spice. The granola is 5g of carbs per 70g serving, so I can have it with a bit of milk and a few dabs of plums stewed without sugar, and still come out with a carb count of 12g. And a black plunger coffee. This fits in fine with my daily ration of 50g carbs.
 

JeanCL

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This is what I eat ... and keeps me in the right blood glucose levels of no more than a 2mml rise ... sometimes less. Porridge made with coconut milk/water mix, then sprinkle on ground ginger and cinnamon ... followed by a tablespoon of mixed Chia and Fennel seeds, then a small handful of pumpkin seeds ... then either 7 Raspberries or a few Blueberries ... all laced with double cream! YUMMY

I find jumbo oat porage is OK for my Blood Glucose reading, and Bergen bread better than standard wholemeal. Good luck
 

Swiftnick

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Morning all,
I’ve just been diagnosed with type 2 Diabetes (yesterday), and while I understand all the implications (I am 67), I’m so far, at a loss as to what to eat for breakfast ?
I love(d) my food and ate almost everything, but my breakfast varied between porridge, corn flakes and toast with jam...my question is, what CAN I eat that will cut down on my sugar intake at breakfast please ? Any suggestions would be more than welcome

Hi Riffraff2. I'm 64 and was diagnosed with type 2 two and a half years ago. I cook a bulk (normally two trays) of a potato and vegetable bake - eg sweet potato, aubergine, swede, carrot, leeks - and decant it into plastic tubs, some of which I freeze. In the morning I dish out a portion with a couple of sausages, and I've got a hot meal.

Nick
 

Bluetit1802

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Hi Riffraff2. I'm 64 and was diagnosed with type 2 two and a half years ago. I cook a bulk (normally two trays) of a potato and vegetable bake - eg sweet potato, aubergine, swede, carrot, leeks - and decant it into plastic tubs, some of which I freeze. In the morning I dish out a portion with a couple of sausages, and I've got a hot meal.

Nick

Hi @Swiftnick

The diabetes status under your avatar states you are Type 1, but your post says you are Type 2. This may lead to confusion on some threads. If your avatar status is incorrect, you can change it in your profile settings. There is a choice between "type 2" and "type 2 insulin dependent".