Type 2- newly diagnosed

JONATHAN_B_

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Hi everyone, I've always been fit and looked after myself, but I've just been diagnosed Type 2. My GP provided me with a testing kit, prescribed Metformin on a daily basis, booked me in to see the diabetic nurse in a few week's and told to eat moderately.

I've been checking my blood sugar levels daily (before and after food) and the average reading in about 10 ish and I'm the correct weight. I train 3 times per week. I'm looking for advice regarding what nutrition and percentages are safe, especially "carbs with sugars".
 

Goonergal

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Hi @JONATHAN_B_ and welcome to the forum.

I’m tagging @daisy1 who will be along with some useful information for newbies. Have a good read and ask as many questions as you like.

You might want to look at the Diet Doctor website for information and recipes for low carb meals - and great you have been provided with a testing kit (very unusual for type 2s not on insulin) so you can test before and after meals to see the effects of specific foods on your sugar levels.
 

Grateful

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It is indeed encouraging that you were provided with a testing kit.

Did the doctor give you the results of a blood test called the HbA1c? This is the test normally used to diagnose diabetes. There is an explanation of this test here: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-hba1c.html.

Because you are taking only Metformin and no other diabetes drugs, you may be able to get good results with a "low-carbohydrate diet." I was able to "reverse" my Type 2 diabetes (T2D) in about three months with diet and exercise -- and you are already exercising so that is great. By "reverse" I mean lowering average blood glucose levels to non-diabetic levels, such that one is much less likely to encounter the complications of diabetes. I am not the only one, there a numerous success stories on this forum from people who achieved the same thing with low-carb-diet-only, or low-carb plus Metformin.

You mentioned "carbs with sugars." It's not quite like that. It is, basically, that what most of us call "sugar" is just one of many carbohydrates. Bread, cereal, pasta, rice, potatos ... and numerous other foods ... are heavy in carbohydrates. All of them need to be reduced, in a low-carb lifestyle.

There is a general description of the various "low carb" diet options (ranging from moderate to extreme) here: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/low-carb-diabetes-diet.html.

This website (already mentioned by @Goonergal) is a goldmine for specific information about food, and recipes: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb.

For me, the time just after diagnosis was tinged with shock and a lot of confusion. This forum is a great place to get support and hear about the experiences of other people with diabetes.

Welcome!
 
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urbanracer

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Hi everyone, I've always been fit and looked after myself, but I've just been diagnosed Type 2. My GP provided me with a testing kit, prescribed Metformin on a daily basis, booked me in to see the diabetic nurse in a few week's and told to eat moderately.

I've been checking my blood sugar levels daily (before and after food) and the average reading in about 10 ish and I'm the correct weight. I train 3 times per week. I'm looking for advice regarding what nutrition and percentages are safe, especially "carbs with sugars".

Welcome to the forums @JONATHAN_B_ ,

Some good advice already given above, so have a look around the forums and please ask about anything that's troubling you.

You allude to the fact that you are aware of the food nutrition label panel, so ignore the 'of which sugars' bit, it's largely irrelevent to us, as you may have concluded from the response from @Grateful .

Good luck going forward.
 
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Rachox

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Welcome! I'm now six months from being diagnosed type 2. Once I was over the initial shock, I saw it as the proverbial kick up the bum to get healthier. I too was started on Metformin and tolerate it well now after a bit of stomach upset in the early days. I wasn't advised to eat low carb by my GP or Diabetes education course, but stumbled on this forum by chance and took up a low carb life style with self monitoring, unfortunately self funded, you are dead lucky to get a meter provided! I started by eating less than 100g carbs/day to begin with and then after 6 weeks reduced it to 50-70g/day, that’s what I continue on now. The best way to see what foods suit you is to test right before a meal and then two hours after the first bite, you’re looking for a rise of no more than 2 mmol/l and to be within these recommended ranges http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html
This has worked for me, to date I've lost 4 stone (still more to go) and got my HbA1c (blood test for 2-3 month average blood sugar) down to a non diabetic level, all due to the fantastic support and advise I got here. I have arthritis so exercising is difficult for me but I just try and walk more. Read around the Forum and I'm sure you'll find a way to do it too!
 
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JONATHAN_B_

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Hi @JONATHAN_B_ and welcome to the forum.

I’m tagging @daisy1 who will be along with some useful information for newbies. Have a good read and ask as many questions as you like.

You might want to look at the Diet Doctor website for information and recipes for low carb meals - and great you have been provided with a testing kit (very unusual for type 2s not on insulin) so you can test before and after meals to see the effects of specific foods on your sugar levels.
Thank you, I will take a look at the web site.
 
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JONATHAN_B_

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Hi @JONATHAN_B_ and welcome to the forum.

I’m tagging @daisy1 who will be along with some useful information for newbies. Have a good read and ask as many questions as you like.

You might want to look at the Diet Doctor website for information and recipes for low carb meals - and great you have been provided with a testing kit (very unusual for type 2s not on insulin) so you can test before and after meals to see the effects of specific foods on your sugar levels.
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daisy1

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@JONATHAN_B_

Hello Jonathan and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 276,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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JONATHAN_B_

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It is indeed encouraging that you were provided with a testing kit.

Did the doctor give you the results of a blood test called the HbA1c? This is the test normally used to diagnose diabetes. There is an explanation of this test here: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-hba1c.html.

Because you are taking only Metformin and no other diabetes drugs, you may be able to get good results with a "low-carbohydrate diet." I was able to "reverse" my Type 2 diabetes (T2D) in about three months with diet and exercise -- and you are already exercising so that is great. By "reverse" I mean lowering average blood glucose levels to non-diabetic levels, such that one is much less likely to encounter the complications of diabetes. I am not the only one, there a numerous success stories on this forum from people who achieved the same thing with low-carb-diet-only, or low-carb plus Metformin.

You mentioned "carbs with sugars." It's not quite like that. It is, basically, that what most of us call "sugar" is just one of many carbohydrates. Bread, cereal, pasta, rice, potatos ... and numerous other foods ... are heavy in carbohydrates. All of them need to be reduced, in a low-carb lifestyle.

There is a general description of the various "low carb" diet options (ranging from moderate to extreme) here: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/low-carb-diabetes-diet.html.

This website (already mentioned by @Goonergal) is a goldmine for specific information about food, and recipes: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb.

For me, the time just after diagnosis was tinged with shock and a lot of confusion. This forum is a great place to get support and hear about the experiences of other people with diabetes.

Welcome!
Hi thank you, that's a with of info. Being diagnosed out of the blue was a complete nightmare s you know and I'm still trying to get my head around it. The HbA1c result was 96. I've managed to get my levels down under 10. On
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JONATHAN_B_

Member
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Welcome! I'm now six months from being diagnosed type 2. Once I was over the initial shock, I saw it as the proverbial kick up the bum to get healthier. I too was started on Metformin and tolerate it well now after a bit of stomach upset in the early days. I wasn't advised to eat low carb by my GP or Diabetes education course, but stumbled on this forum by chance and took up a low carb life style with self monitoring, unfortunately self funded, you are dead lucky to get a meter provided! I started by eating less than 100g carbs/day to begin with and then after 6 weeks reduced it to 50-70g/day, that’s what I continue on now. The best way to see what foods suit you is to test right before a meal and then two hours after the first bite, you’re looking for a rise of no more than 2 mmol/l and to be within these recommended ranges http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html
This has worked for me, to date I've lost 4 stone (still more to go) and got my HbA1c (blood test for 2-3 month average blood sugar) down to a non diabetic level, all due to the fantastic support and advise I got here. I have arthritis so exercising is difficult for me but I just try and walk more. Read around the Forum and I'm sure you'll find a way to do it too!
Hi thank you for spending time to provide the very useful info. I'm glad I went for the test, thus preventing future complications. This is the kick up the bum I needed too.
 

Rachox

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Hi thank you for spending time to provide the very useful info. I'm glad I went for the test, thus preventing future complications. This is the kick up the bum I needed too.
You’re very welcome!
 
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Grungysquash

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Yep it's certainly a wake up call - were all in the same boat and the initial surprise.

It's what we all do next that's the difference. So good luck on your journey.
 

Candy1978

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Hi everyone, I've always been fit and looked after myself, but I've just been diagnosed Type 2. My GP provided me with a testing kit, prescribed Metformin on a daily basis, booked me in to see the diabetic nurse in a few week's and told to eat moderatel
I've been checking my blood sugar levels daily (before and after food) and the average reading in about 10 ish and I'm the correct weight. I train 3 times per week. I'm looking for advice regarding what nutrition and percentages are safe, especially "carbs with sugars".
My name is Candice i'm
Hi everyone, I've always been fit and looked after myself, but I've just been diagnosed Type 2. My GP provided me with a testing kit, prescribed Metformin on a daily basis, booked me in to see the diabetic nurse in a few week's and told to eat modera
I've been checking my blood sugar levels daily (before and after food) and the average reading in about 10 ish and I'm the correct weight. I train 3 times per week. I'm looking for advice regarding what nutrition and percentages are safe, especially "carbs with sugars".
Hi my name is Candice I'. Im 39 years old from Chaska Minnesota. I have Diabetes 2 i just for 9 months ago. I feel alone and scard of my diabetes, i can't sleep, i eat the wrong foods. I test my blood two times a day it's been high. I'm going back to the doctor do more blood work don't have the meds for the diabetes. And I'm looking for chat rooms to help me out and look for new friends.