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neithskye

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Hi everyone. I'm so glad I found this forum.

I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes on July 6th from a random blood test. Had no symptoms. Surprise!

Luckily I was one week into trying a new diet and exercise program so was already in a mindset to make changes.

I've cut out sugar and most carbs, and am trying new foods like cauliflower rice (not bad). I swim and do laps every second day at the community pool.

I'm on Metformin, Sitagliptin, and Jardiance. My blood sugar was 14-20 mmol at first, but is now between 6-7.5.

I have an education course later today. I'm feeling pretty good! *waves*
 

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Hi neithskye and welcome to the Forum. As this is your first post I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful info post. I was diagnosed on a routine blood test too, it’s a shock isn’t it? However it seems like you’ve hit the ground running. Do you know what your HbA1c was on diagnosis? That’s a big bunch of meds you’ve been put on, hopefully with low carbing you’ll manage to reduce those. Keep testing regularly at home. Come back and ask any questions you may have.
 
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Hi @neithskye, Welcome ! Sounds like you have hit the ground running and your levels show successful you are. Please enjoy the education course and let us all know how it was and if you have any queries ? You will notice the vast array of forums and threads. Any good Canadian jokes for the Joke forum ? Best Wishes.
 
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It does sound like a big cocktail of pills you've got. Are there any plans to review these when your bloods return to a more acceptable number. Sounds like you're on the right track though.
Glenn
 

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Hi everyone. I'm so glad I found this forum.

I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes on July 6th from a random blood test. Had no symptoms. Surprise!

Luckily I was one week into trying a new diet and exercise program so was already in a mindset to make changes.

I've cut out sugar and most carbs, and am trying new foods like cauliflower rice (not bad). I swim and do laps every second day at the community pool.

I'm on Metformin, Sitagliptin, and Jardiance. My blood sugar was 14-20 mmol at first, but is now between 6-7.5.

I have an education course later today. I'm feeling pretty good! *waves*
Welcome! I am a fellow Canadian. I went on a "loose" low carb regimen back in February. with great results. These forums are a great resource.
 

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@neithskye

Hello Neithskye and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions if you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

neithskye

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Do you know what your HbA1c was on diagnosis? That’s a big bunch of meds you’ve been put on, hopefully with low carbing you’ll manage to reduce those.

I don't know what HBA1c is. All I know is that my blood test said I had a 16 mmol.

I don't eat many carbs anymore. I'd say 60 or less a day. Strangely even with all these meds every week or so my blood sugar spikes and I don't know why. Yesterday it was 11.2 mmol when it'd been in the 6-7 range for days. It's weird.
 
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neithskye

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@neithskye

Hello Neithskye and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions if you need to and someone will help.

Thank you! :cat: I don't know what diabetics did before the Internet. Having all this information at my disposal has helped me feel more in control.
 
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neithskye

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Hi @neithskye, Welcome ! Sounds like you have hit the ground running and your levels show successful you are. Please enjoy the education course and let us all know how it was and if you have any queries ? You will notice the vast array of forums and threads. Any good Canadian jokes for the Joke forum ? Best Wishes.

The education course was more of a history taking session. The guy didn't have much to teach me because I'd educated myself so thoroughly, lol. I see a dietician in early September.

I don't know any Canadian jokes but I can tell you that like the stereotype I really do say "eh" all the time. ;)
 
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neithskye

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It does sound like a big cocktail of pills you've got. Are there any plans to review these when your bloods return to a more acceptable number.
Glenn

Yes. I return for an overall blood test in two months then will have an appointment with my doctor to discuss the results. She's already pleased with my my levels after one month, so we'll see.
 
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RobEdmonton

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I don't know what HBA1c is. All I know is that my blood test said I had a 16 mmol.

I don't eat many carbs anymore. I'd say 60 or less a day. Strangely even with all these meds every week or so my blood sugar spikes and I don't know why. Yesterday it was 11.2 mmol when it'd been in the 6-7 range for days. It's weird.
Strange things can cause a spike. I've seen advice to wash your hands before you do a blood test, as minute traces of sugar or glucose can cause a false high reading. As you go through the forum posts (the T2 forum is very good) you will see lots of reasons for temporary high readings. Stay positive!
 

neithskye

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Strange things can cause a spike. I've seen advice to wash your hands before you do a blood test, as minute traces of sugar or glucose can cause a false high reading. As you go through the forum posts (the T2 forum is very good) you will see lots of reasons for temporary high readings. Stay positive!

Thank you. Strangely I spike after I haven't eaten anything for several hours. I thought it was supposed to be the opposite - lower readings before meals and higher readings after. My readings are lower after I eat. But I was only diagnosed on July 6th so maybe it takes longer to stabilize. If I can't figure something out in 30 seconds I get very frustrated! ;)
 

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Thank you. Strangely I spike after I haven't eaten anything for several hours. I thought it was supposed to be the opposite - lower readings before meals and higher readings after. My readings are lower after I eat. But I was only diagnosed on July 6th so maybe it takes longer to stabilize. If I can't figure something out in 30 seconds I get very frustrated! ;)
Your liver might be trying to help out by dumping sugar, up to what your normal levels used to be. It might think you need a liverdump to get you started in the morning, or it thinks it's keeping you from going hypo. It'll get used to lower numbers in time. I was fasting yesterday and physically active, so my liver kept dumping glucose until I had about 3 grams of carbs. Then it calmed down and my numbers went down rather than up too. It's a confused little organ that's just trying to help. ;)
 

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I don't know what HBA1c is. All I know is that my blood test said I had a 16 ml.
Welcome to the forum @neithskye. If your blood glucose reading was 16mmol/L that would be an Hba1c (IFCC) of 104.4 which is quite high.
In the UK HbA1c readings of below 42 are non-diabetic, 42-47 is pre-diabetic, and 48 and above is diabetic.
But many of us on here have found we can lower our bg levels by adopting a Low Carbohydrate High Fat (lchf) approach to eating. Have a read round the threads to see how this works and ask any questions you want to.
 

neithskye

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Your liver might be trying to help out by dumping sugar, up to what your normal levels used to be. It might think you need a liverdump to get you started in the morning, or it thinks it's keeping you from going hypo. It'll get used to lower numbers in time. I was fasting yesterday and physically active, so my liver kept dumping glucose until I had about 3 grams of carbs. Then it calmed down and my numbers went down rather than up too. It's a confused little organ that's just trying to help. ;)

Aw. Poor little guy. ;)

Thank you for the explanation. When I first started tracking on July 6th my numbers were in the teens, and I spiked once at 20.1. Now I test regularly between 6-8, and my spikes are 9-10. Getting better. I had my liver's best friend the gallbladder removed 27 years ago when I was 20, so perhaps it's still mad at me. ;)
 

neithskye

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Welcome to the forum

Welcome to the forum @neithskye. If your blood glucose reading was 16mmol/L that would be an Hba1c (IFCC) of 104.4 which is quite high.
In the UK HbA1c readings of below 42 are non-diabetic, 42-47 is pre-diabetic, and 48 and above is diabetic.


Thank you!

Yes, 16 is quite high. I didn't even know. I'd gone to my doctor for a prescription renewal one day, she said, "Let's do a blood test while you're here," then I got an urgent phone call the next day.

I cut sugar and most carbs, and seven weeks later I'm testing between 6-8, which would be around 39-52. Making progress!
 
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Aw. Poor little guy. ;)

Thank you for the explanation. When I first started tracking on July 6th my numbers were in the teens, and I spiked once at 20.1. Now I test regularly between 6-8, and my spikes are 9-10. Getting better. I had my liver's best friend the gallbladder removed 27 years ago when I was 20, so perhaps it's still mad at me. ;)
That's quite the difference in a relatively short time. He'll need time to catch up. Seriously though, you're doing pretty good!