Dvla Won't Give My Licence Back.

[Tbren++]

Hello everybody my name is Tony I'm hoping somebody out there can help me. I'm type 2 but in January my control was so bad they put me on insulin (just 10 ml a day that I take over night) it worked and my sugars are really good. But unfortunately they revoked my pcv licence. The criteria for getting it back is three months metre readings taken at least twice a day.
Now I'm afraid I have been negligent a few times and did it only once a day.
I have not been driving at work since going on insulin so didn't see the importance. Now I do because they have turned down my re application.
So to avoid having to start afresh my 3 months (and losing my job) can anyone out there let me know if there's a tolerance of how many misses you can have and be ok. Because having completed two more months I forgot my metre last week and mist two days.
Can anyone help please.
Tony.

 

[Deleted Account]

I cannot help with your driving license.
However, I am surprised BG testing has not become habit if you are taking insulin which could cause a hypo.
You say your BG is good now but how do you know if you are only measuring once or twice a day?

Sorry if my response sounds harsh and not very helpful but I am concerned about your health if you are not testing regularly.

 

[britishpub]

It will be your Doctor who has advised DVLA that you should not have your Cat D licence reinstated.

DVLA make these decisions based on your Doctors advice.

The way the system will work is that the form completed by your doctor is checked, and certain responses will automatically mean the licence is revoked.

If the tick in the box asking if you have provided 3 months readings is missing the case is referred for further assessment.

If your doctor ticks no in the next box asking if he/she thinks you should still have a Cat D licence it is an automatic refusal.

 

[Tbren++]

It will be your Doctor who has advised DVLA that you should not have your Cat D licence reinstated.

DVLA make these decisions based on your Doctors advice.

The way the system will work is that the form completed by your doctor is checked, and certain responses will automatically mean the licence is revoked.

If the tick in the box asking if you have provided 3 months readings is missing the case is referred for further assessment.

If your doctor ticks no in the next box asking if he/she thinks you should still have a Cat D licence it is an automatic refusal.

Thanks for your comments I do test regular normally, these were oversights. My insulin is one injection slow release overnight and during the day it's my normal tablets.

 

[Tbren++]

Thanks for your comments I do test regular normally, these were oversights. My insulin is one injection slow release overnight and during the day it's my normal tablets.

My doctor did a full medical and passed me fit but the specialist checking my metre told me she was recommending me for my licence but has to mention the oversights and said they would probably want there own specialist to see me.

 

[britishpub]

Unfortunately the DVLA caseworker who will be dealing with the licence renewal doesn’t have much leeway.

DVLA don’t differentiate between T1 and T2 or what insulin regime you are on.

The 2 tests a day is considered the bare minimum, based on the idea that a professional driver will have 2 driving periods a day with a break in between which would require two tests.

The DVLA Medical Council has been pressing for this to be increased to 4 or 6 a day, but so far DVLA has stuck with 2 times a day.

The caseworker would need to show a good reason to override the automatic revocation and issue a licence.

 

[Tbren++]

Unfortunately the DVLA caseworker who will be dealing with the licence renewal doesn’t have much leeway.

DVLA don’t differentiate between T1 and T2 or what insulin regime you are on.

The 2 tests a day is considered the bare minimum, based on the idea that a professional driver will have 2 driving periods a day with a break in between which would require two tests.

The DVLA Medical Council has been pressing for this to be increased to 4 or 6 a day, but so far DVLA has stuck with 2 times a day.

The caseworker would need to show a good reason to override the automatic revocation and issue a licence.

Thank you that was helpful and informative.

 

[britishpub]

@Tbren++

Tony, you could try to get your GP or specialist to write to DVLA.

If they can make a good case for you to have your licence renewed I am sure the caseworker will try to help.

Good luck.

 

[ringi]

Can I be radical....

Have your tried not eating any carbs, maybe your BG will then reduce enough that you can stop the inslin and keep dvls happy thst way.

 

[JohnEGreen]

If it were that simple there would be no T2's on insulin not always so straightforward.

 

[ringi]

If it were that simple there would be no T2's on insulin not always so straightforward.

Agreed but look at how little inslin the origin poster is on.

 

[Energize]

Personally, I feel that a PCV license holder, entitled to drive a vehicle holding up to 9 paying passengers, must be able to show reliability and responsibility in being totally safe to drive (excepting accidents and un-anticipated events etc) particularly while being in charge of a vehicle and passengers.

So, on the basis that you, @Tbren++ , have 'forgotten' to test twice a day, especially as being on Insulin, or any other insulin-producing medication, for example Gliclazide, Glipizide, when your livelihood/license depends on it, how can one be sure you would follow such necessary testing once you had your license back?

I'm sorry this probably sounds harsh but I wouldn't be happy getting into a taxi, for instance, if I happened to know the taxi driver was on hypoglycaemic/insulin medication and not testing on a regular and frequent basis.

I wish you well, on the basis that you reliably test frequently enough to be as safe as possible on the road.

 

[simonw1971]

Hello everybody my name is Tony I'm hoping somebody out there can help me. I'm type 2 but in January my control was so bad they put me on insulin (just 10 ml a day that I take over night) it worked and my sugars are really good. But unfortunately they revoked my pcv licence. The criteria for getting it back is three months metre readings taken at least twice a day.
Now I'm afraid I have been negligent a few times and did it only once a day.
I have not been driving at work since going on insulin so didn't see the importance. Now I do because they have turned down my re application.
So to avoid having to start afresh my 3 months (and losing my job) can anyone out there let me know if there's a tolerance of how many misses you can have and be ok. Because having completed two more months I forgot my metre last week and mist two days.
Can anyone help please.
Tony.

Hi I have just been through the same process. I am a hgv Driver. I checked my blood sugar levels 3 times every day until I got my license back. Over all and after 3 medicals it took 7 months to get my license back. Then you will still need to do this every day after you get it back as well. Plus every 2hrs while driving.
Hope this helps

 

[spaceman]

Hello everybody my name is Tony I'm hoping somebody out there can help me. I'm type 2 but in January my control was so bad they put me on insulin (just 10 ml a day that I take over night) it worked and my sugars are really good. But unfortunately they revoked my pcv licence. The criteria for getting it back is three months metre readings taken at least twice a day.
Now I'm afraid I have been negligent a few times and did it only once a day.
I have not been driving at work since going on insulin so didn't see the importance. Now I do because they have turned down my re application.
So to avoid having to start afresh my 3 months (and losing my job) can anyone out there let me know if there's a tolerance of how many misses you can have and be ok. Because having completed two more months I forgot my metre last week and mist two days.
Can anyone help please.
Tony.

well sorry to hear about your PCV licence, its the insulin ? it happened to me ! 3 years ago I got my latest 3 year medical driving licence. on inspecting my latest licence I found that all my classes were deducted except a car driving licence including a combine harvester class..thinking to myself why have I been given a class that ill never use ie a farm vehicle ? there had stopped my minibus/ taxi / 3.5 ton/7.5 ton vehicles vehicles. yes my GP was paid £80/100 to do the medical for the DVLA medical . yes I passed the medical . there was letter in with the new 3 year driving licence stating I could re apply for 3.5 ton class at my cost. my licence was due for renewal last time in march on18 th of December just before xmas the DVLA sent me a letter saying there were terminating my licence from that date. reminded them that it was march on my licence ? there demanded my licence back and told me I couldn't drive. more than 7 months passed before I got licence back.

 

[britishpub]

keep dvls happy thst way.

It is not a matter of keeping the DVLA happy.

They will only act when a drivers GP/Doctor or specialist doesn't tell them that a driver is fit to hold a particular licence.

Whilst the DVLA employ their own medical professionals (currently 40 Doctors and 11 Nurse Practicioners) they only get involved in the very complex cases.

If a medical form is completed correctly, and the Doctor says he/she is happy that the necessary BG tests have been undertaken, and most importantly the Doctor has said that the driver is fit/OK to drive the licence will be issued or renewed immediately with no further questions asked.

It only get's given to a caseworker to look at, and possibly referred to a specialist when the drivers own doctor does not give DVLA the assurance that the driver is fit to hold the licence.

P.S. If you have a Class 2 category on your licence due to passing your test prior to 1997, in order for it to remain on your licence you need to pass a medical for that particular category (D1 or C1) using form D4 or the categories will automatically be removed.

 

[james11]

Once you have the 3 months readings and the dvla have heard from your doctoror consultant its plain sailing as long as you dont have any hypos that need help from others....dont miss any days readings even on your day off

 

[aaroncody12]

Hello everybody my name is Tony I'm hoping somebody out there can help me. I'm type 2 but in January my control was so bad they put me on insulin (just 10 ml a day that I take over night) it worked and my sugars are really good. But unfortunately they revoked my pcv licence. The criteria for getting it back is three months metre readings taken at least twice a day.
Now I'm afraid I have been negligent a few times and did it only once a day.
I have not been driving at work since going on insulin so didn't see the importance. Now I do because they have turned down my re application.
So to avoid having to start afresh my 3 months (and losing my job) can anyone out there let me know if there's a tolerance of how many misses you can have and be ok. Because having completed two more months I forgot my metre last week and mist two days.
Can anyone help please.
Tony.

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you cant miss any days and test at least twice a day and every 2 hours when driving and when u have 3 mounths readings go back to your doctor and geyt them to send letter to dvla ive had my pcv liesc for 3 years since it was revokrd

 

[Derbysocks]

Hello everybody my name is Tony I'm hoping somebody out there can help me. I'm type 2 but in January my control was so bad they put me on insulin (just 10 ml a day that I take over night) it worked and my sugars are really good. But unfortunately they revoked my pcv licence. The criteria for getting it back is three months metre readings taken at least twice a day.
Now I'm afraid I have been negligent a few times and did it only once a day.
I have not been driving at work since going on insulin so didn't see the importance. Now I do because they have turned down my re application.
So to avoid having to start afresh my 3 months (and losing my job) can anyone out there let me know if there's a tolerance of how many misses you can have and be ok. Because having completed two more months I forgot my metre last week and mist two days.
Can anyone help please.
Tony.

 

[Derbysocks]

You were told the rules for keeping/regaining your licence & chose to ignore them. Follow the rules & you will get it back. Until you do you don’t deserve a licence.

 

[cassie091]

As a pvc driver taking insulin I consider it irresponsible of you not to test your blood sugars regularly and, as others have pointed out, every insulin user driver has to test before driving and at 2 hour intervals. You must comply with the rules if you want to retain your license. Not doing so puts you, other road users and your passengers at risk should you become hypoglyceamic. I am not surprised that your license was revoked.