Need To Seriously Drop Down My Hba1c And Turn My Life Around.

rosco 2

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Akindrat, I have read through most of this thread. The first thing that occurs to me is you - and probably some of your family members - have an unhealthy relationship with food. I was diagnosed T2 in June and my nearest and dearest have supported my new dietary choices, medication and side effects, bad temper when hungry, etc etc because they want me to succeed. Wafting tempting foodstuffs at you is not helpful and indicates something rather destructive imho. Equally you are responsible for the choices you make. That is true of all of us.

Working in the fast food industry does not help either but I realise employment may be hard to come by in places.

If you have a supportive GP, then I suggest you ask for psychology referral to sort out your addiction to food.

Bariatric surgery is not an easy fix it if you don’t sort out why you eat unhealthy food. Taking responsibility for your issues is a better healthy option. I wish you well.
 

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It's dropping slowly, but I'm still really high. Last reading was 20.7 at 8:30pm after having a fry up of 2 sausages, 2 bacon, an egg and a handful of beans. Said no to the chips and bread twice, but still had to prep the potatoes and butter the bread.

I feel like absolute **** and I can't stand being in the same room as them when they're snacking away. I can't even have a glass of red wine to enjoy, without my mum drinking it all.

Keep at it, at least its lower than this morning. Your bg is not going to drop dramatically, so be patient
 

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So that's day one completed successfully. Well done. :) Now to start day 2. Good luck. :)

The numbers are coming down, don't stress about how slowly they come down, the main reason you are testing is to make sure you don't have a hypo, so in this respect a slow descent of the numbers is best.
 
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akindrat18

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I was doing alright. Then at the weekend, I had to do two 12 till 10 shifts instead of 12 till 8, as another person left and everyone had been given more hours. I asked if I could have two 15 minute breaks, instead of 30 minutes. It never happened and after I finished both shifts, I was so hungry I had my staff meal (3 pieces of chicken on the bone) and paid for a dirty louisiana box meal. I was supposed to have a day off last week, day off this week and that hasn't happened.

I need to get out of that place soon as it is not doing me any good and next week they have put me on two close shifts, which doesn't bode well with my blood sugars as I start at 3pm, have a break at half 6, then it's cleaning up for two hours from when we close and by that time I'm hungry again.
 

rosco 2

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If you are hungry, you eat? Despite knowing you are diabetic and this harms you? Your able to go to shop and buy healthy food before going to work? You need to talk to someone to get your strategy and self esteem on the right road. Best of luck.
 
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mojo37

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I'm down to only one option now and that is weight loss surgery. Had an appointment with the hospital doctor and is going to refer me to the specialist in the next few months.
I hate to disillusion you but weight loss surgery is no miracle quick fix solution You will still have to control your eating in fact more so. I don't know how young you are but you can do this yourself with the right mind set ..
 
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akindrat18

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I hate to disillusion you but weight loss surgery is no miracle quick fix solution You will still have to control your eating in fact more so. I don't know how young you are but you can do this yourself with the right mind set ..

I know it's not a quick fix, but when I saw the hospital doctor a few weeks ago, he thinks that it might benefit me. He didn't want to bring it up at the appointment, but my weight is going up, my cholesterol is high, its low risk for me as I'm young (25), it will help me stop over eating and may even help my sleep routine.
 
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rosco 2

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I am going for what I see as the truth. You are 26. Not a child anymore...you are an adult. I see excuse follow excuse here, anything other than applying willpower to your situation. You have every right to abuse yourself if that is what you choose. The reality I don’t have to engage with sympathy because this is becoming a litany of excuses with you seeing the salvation as being surgery which you believe will magically - hallelujah!! - sort out your health issues and obesity. It will not, it will just bring you another set of issues to face which on your current performance will lead to yet more unhappiness.
Get a grip. If you get offered bariatric surgery, thank all the powers that be because in the current climate of budget cuts that’s very generous. However do not think your issues will be over.
 
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zand

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I see excuse follow excuse here, anything other than applying willpower to your situation.

Sadly I agree, that's what is happening.

@akindrat18 you say you have had some counselling. It's this area of willpower and self esteem that I think you need help with.
When toddlers are two they have all the willpower in the world lol and have to be taught that they can't always get their own way and that sometimes what they want to do is harmful to their wellbeing.

When I was two I had the usual temper tantrums to get my own way until one day someone overstepped the mark (putting it mildly) and crossed boundaries that should never be crossed with a two year old. The result was that I had no real will of my own anymore. It was squashed. Until I had counselling when I was in my 50s I always gave way to what others wanted. I had some willpower but anyone could say 'Go on, just one won't hurt' and I fell for it. All the things you say as excuses I have said too. But it has to stop, or quite simply it will be the end of you. You cannot go on like this.

Please ask for counselling in this area of willpower. It's your life, don't let others wreck it for you.

I wholeheartedly agree with @rosco 2 's post no.69
 
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rosco 2

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Phew, thanks zand, I thought I was going to get slaughtered for that view. Your perspective is valuable not least because you have travelled a hard road. I worked in a pretty tough area of healthcare, HIV, drug addiction, survivors, substance abuse, mental health issues, learning difficulty etc etc and I have heard bullshItters give reasons and excuses time after time. No more, my life is too short to have to give same support to people who don’t take responsibility. This is not the third world, you can get the right help if you actually want to make changes.
 
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rosco 2

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Furthermore, and I am warming to my theme here, just because your GP seems to be supporting your desire for surgery, does not necessarily mean s/he actually agrees with the strategy. I have known a few weak individuals who agree to almost anything with patients because they can’t handle saying “no”. Sounds familiar? It should. So a doc with this kind of personality agrees to refer you knowing someone else...consultant in bariatric surgery...will be the one to agree or refuse. Someone else is the bad bunny. Then you get to blame them too.

Sort yourself out. At 26 you have your life ahead of you, if you continue to abuse yourself you will end up on a reality programme for all the wrong reasons. If I seem harsh, then that’s the way it it. No point in pussyfooting round you, you just don’t change if we don’t spell it out.
 
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Furthermore, and I am warming to my theme here, just because your GP seems to be supporting your desire for surgery, does not necessarily mean s/he actually agrees with the strategy. I have known a few weak individuals who agree to almost anything with patients because they can’t handle saying “no”. Sounds familiar? It should. So a doc with this kind of personality agrees to refer you knowing someone else...consultant in bariatric surgery...will be the one to agree or refuse. Someone else is the bad bunny. Then you get to blame them too.

Sort yourself out. At 26 you have your life ahead of you, if you continue to abuse yourself you will end up on a reality programme for all the wrong reasons. If I seem harsh, then that’s the way it it. No point in pussyfooting round you, you just don’t change if we don’t spell it out.
Yes, this may seem like a harsh post, but it's the truth.
 

akindrat18

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I'm being really honest here now, I am still in the mindset that I can eat what I want and get away with it. I need to change and change now. I've just had a long conversation with my nan and she thinks that I'm still in denial, which I am as she caught me eating in Pizza Hut last night.

I told her truth and this is it. I hardly take my medication, I hardly test my blood sugars, I still eat kfc and junk food at home, my mum and dad only check too see how my blood sugars are whenever I have alcohol, I've missed hospital and counselling appointments because of work or I had to reschedule them, I never get a good night's sleep with waking up every hour or two hours aim the night and I still sneak chocolate and biscuits to my room.

My nan wants me to be better and she has set me up with a healthy minds counsellor on Monday morning for a phone consultation and she is making sure that I go through with it by being at my house with me. She has advised me to think again more about having the gastric bypass and is going to be with me at my next appointment with the hospital doctor.

Also, my nan showed me this link and yes I am still in denial.

https://consumer.healthday.com/ency...betes-news-178/diabetes-in-denial-648138.html
 

Bluetit1802

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Your nan sounds like a star. Listen to her. Let her help you. She may even convince your parents that you need support and help. Please take care of yourself.
 
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Pipp

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I'm being really honest here now, I am still in the mindset that I can eat what I want and get away with it. I need to change and change now. I've just had a long conversation with my nan and she thinks that I'm still in denial, which I am as she caught me eating in Pizza Hut last night.

I told her truth and this is it. I hardly take my medication, I hardly test my blood sugars, I still eat kfc and junk food at home, my mum and dad only check too see how my blood sugars are whenever I have alcohol, I've missed hospital and counselling appointments because of work or I had to reschedule them, I never get a good night's sleep with waking up every hour or two hours aim the night and I still sneak chocolate and biscuits to my room.

My nan wants me to be better and she has set me up with a healthy minds counsellor on Monday morning for a phone consultation and she is making sure that I go through with it by being at my house with me. She has advised me to think again more about having the gastric bypass and is going to be with me at my next appointment with the hospital doctor.

Also, my nan showed me this link and yes I am still in denial.

https://consumer.healthday.com/ency...betes-news-178/diabetes-in-denial-648138.html
Wow, @akindrat18 , it has taken you several years to do that... To be totally honest, and own your health issues, that is. I have often despaired for you, because you never seemed to be responsible for your own well being, always blaming others, or unforseen circumstances, or just pure bad luck for the situations you have found yourself in to do with your health, and your diabetes.

Your nan seems wonderfully pragmtic and practical. A wise woman. Be supported by her, but own your situation. I seem to remember you have a psychology degree? Draw on the knowledge from that and read up on 'learned helplessness' . You are capable of change.

Please, please, now you have started facing reality, and being honest here, don't do as you have previously and disappear for a while. You know people here are rooting for you, despite some being frustrated that you have seemed to have been deceiving us. That sounds harsh, but is the reality of some long term members who have seen you repeating this behaviour over the last few years. Keep posting, keep striving. Persevere and you will succeed. Just don't leave it too late to turn things round.
 
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Goonergal

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I'm being really honest here now, I am still in the mindset that I can eat what I want and get away with it. I need to change and change now. I've just had a long conversation with my nan and she thinks that I'm still in denial, which I am as she caught me eating in Pizza Hut last night.

I told her truth and this is it. I hardly take my medication, I hardly test my blood sugars, I still eat kfc and junk food at home, my mum and dad only check too see how my blood sugars are whenever I have alcohol, I've missed hospital and counselling appointments because of work or I had to reschedule them, I never get a good night's sleep with waking up every hour or two hours aim the night and I still sneak chocolate and biscuits to my room.

My nan wants me to be better and she has set me up with a healthy minds counsellor on Monday morning for a phone consultation and she is making sure that I go through with it by being at my house with me. She has advised me to think again more about having the gastric bypass and is going to be with me at my next appointment with the hospital doctor.

Also, my nan showed me this link and yes I am still in denial.

https://consumer.healthday.com/ency...betes-news-178/diabetes-in-denial-648138.html

@akindrat18 I’ve been following this thread and feeling that there wasn’t much to add to what others had said. Being honest with yourself is a really positive first step. Stick with your nan, she sounds great! This journey isn’t easy for anyone so do keep posting here for support, advice and help keep the motivation you’ve now found going.
 

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Your nan sounds wonderful @akindrat18. I wish you all the best, good luck!
 

rosco 2

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Hello akindrat. Congratulations on finally taking a grip on your reality and owning your situation. My first suggestion is talk to your Nan about moving in with her! If you have represented your situation accurately, she appears to be the one in your family that is sensible and has your best interests in mind.

“Sneaking” chocolate or whatever to your bedroom is an interesting description, is there a mindset that if you eat goodies undetected, these won’t affect you? These only affect bg if you are “caught” eating them? The human capacity for self deception is quite fascinating. I am 68. My diagnosis was only 5 months ago but thankfully my personality meant I made changes immediately. And I have stuck to them. Of course there’s a temptation to just stick my head in the sand and continue my lifestyle but that would not be fair to my loved ones. I have a very supportive partner and family which is really helpful. I am lucky compared with many, I know. Equally though it’s me doing the hard yards and the denial of foods I love.

One can self deceive for however long but inevitably the person who suffers is oneself. I really hope this is wake up call for you. If my posts made a difference, I am happy with the outcome. The hard work is now yours. Bariatric surgery is not the answer imho but it’s not my call to make. Best of luck.
 

GaryC46

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Poop we all loved eating the wrong food and drinking the wrong drinks, have a listen to your nan, there’s loads of help out there,we’re lucky we have the wonderful NHS,
In a lot of countries they don’t have that luxury, all the best.