Confusion about reversing diabetes

xfieldok

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This go up by 2?
So even if still under 8 if it went up by more than 2 it’s not good?
It is preferable to keep your before and after eating readings under 2 if you can.

I try to keep my numbers under 7.5, doesn't always work!
 

woollygal

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It is preferable to keep your before and after eating readings under 2 if you can.

I try to keep my numbers under 7.5, doesn't always work!

Oh blimey. I thought as long as it was in the 8 it was good.

So if it starts in the 5 and goes up to 8s then that’s bad?
 

xfieldok

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Oh blimey. I thought as long as it was in the 8 it was good.

So if it starts in the 5 and goes up to 8s then that’s bad?
The recommendation from NICE is that T2 is under 8.5 90 minutes after eating. Non diabetics should be under 7.8. I try to stay within "normal" levels.

If your meal gives you a rise of over 2 then your meal was too carby or your portion was too large.

Look where you started though, you have done really well. You just need a couple of tweaks to keep your rise under 2.
 

Bluetit1802

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Oh blimey. I thought as long as it was in the 8 it was good.

So if it starts in the 5 and goes up to 8s then that’s bad?

Starting at 5 and being 8 at 2 hours means too many carbs. That is a rise of 3. It is the aim to keep levels as flat as you can. A nice small bump rather than a roller coaster of swings up and down. It is these swings that cause problems.
 

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Nurse insisted that I eat 6 small meals a day, lots of whole grains, fresh fruit & vegetables and limit meats to lean only and consider egg whites.

I did not ask her how this had worked out for her.

My vision is fine.
 

xfieldok

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Nurse insisted that I eat 6 small meals a day, lots of whole grains, fresh fruit & vegetables and limit meats to lean only and consider egg whites.

I did not ask her how this had worked out for her.

My vision is fine.
Blimey, if I followed that advice I would be back where I started.
 
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timgil

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ok thank you
what do you use to find out how many carbs there are in everything you eat - i have literally no idea

Personally I have found https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1908261153/ a very handy guide. It's basically just a list (with pictures) of sooooo many different food items and their carb contents in different proportions together with proteins, fat, saturated fat, fiber, and calories.

Just seen that someone already posted about this book already (I should really read a full thread before responding!)
 
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Bluetit1802

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Personally I have found https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1908261153/ a very handy guide. It's basically just a list (with pictures) of sooooo many different food items and their carb contents in different proportions together with proteins, fat, saturated fat, fiber, and calories.

Just seen that someone already posted about this book already (I should really read a full thread before responding!)

Yes, that is the Carbs & Cals book I have used for 4 and a half years. I always recommend it.
 
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HSSS

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All packaged foods have nutrition labels that tell us the number of Total Carbs per 100g among other nutrients. It is the total carbs you need,, not the "of which sugars"

Just to confuse our friends over the pond who may be in here, our “total” carbs referred to here on our labels are in fact what you call net carbs. Ours have the fibre listed separately not included in this number. The only listing that’s included and part of our carbs figure is sugar.
 
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SlimLizzy

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ok thank you
what do you use to find out how many carbs there are in everything you eat - i have literally no idea
There is a Carb and Calorie Counter book, has Diabetes UK on the cover. Have found it a great help in making food choices. Widely available in bookshops or online.
Best wishes for better health in 2019
 
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Fuggs

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Read a fascinating book about amalgams, called amalgam illness, by Andrew Cutler, and the link to diabetes. In that it so screws up your mineral transport (Zinc, Magnesium, etc.) and cellular system that it can be impossible for some people to control their T2 by diet....
 

Fuggs

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You may well be able to blame your fillings, if they are mercury. (Amalgam) Research it...seems true...