9.2 fasting bloods

Kazza01

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Hi
I’m new to this site. I was wondering if i need to see my GP? I was having a hospital procedure last week and had to be nil by mouth (overnight, 16 hours) Before the procedure i said i didn’t feel to good and the did a blood test with a finger prick monitor and it said 9.2 is this high? i was advised to see my GP

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Ping @daisy1 for the welcome pack.

9.1 is a bit higher than most would like, and seeing your GP sounds sensible.

We don't know anything about you, though, what medications you are on and what blood test results you have had in the past.

We don't know what you are eating, and how much.
Other medical conditions?
Fitness and weight?

We can't diagnose, but with more information we can chat about your concerns.
 

Kazza01

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Hi
Well i do have other medical conditions: Epilepsy and under active thyroid both which i’m on medication.
My last blood sugar bloods were done at my gp about a 18 months ago and the said they were fine but my cholesterol was raised to 7.0
i’ve recently lost 2 stone in weight on the keto diet and currently weigh 13 stone. I’ve got a BS monitor at home that i have used the past couple of mornings on waking and it has read 6.9 and 6.8 fasting.
Hope this info helps
 

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So you have no diabetes diagnosis?

Readings taken on waking can be very variable and unreliable. The one in your hospital before your procedure could well have been elevated because of the stress and anxiety you were very likely experiencing. However, with the ones you took at home, they are a bit high for a non-diabetic. I would advise you to see your GP.

By the way, you may learn on this forum that it is not a good idea to accept the words "fine" or "OK" or similar. That is one person's opinion and you have no idea how close you are to not being fine. The advice is to always ask for a print out of your blood test results. If you are in England your surgery probably puts test results on-line so you can ask if they do and how to register for this service.
 

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No i have just come back from my gp this afternoon and been booked in for a Hbc1? tomorrow so will know the results in a couple of days. Every other time i have had bloods done they always say they are fine and no further action is needed but this time i’m going to ask for a print out of the results.
 

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Let us know how you go on, and if there is anything on the print out you don't understand all you have to do is ask on here. Good luck. :)
 

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@Kazz01
Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and helpful.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

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On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

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Controlling your carbs

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Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

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The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
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  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
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However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

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  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Kazza01

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Morning All
I’ve just done a waking BS test and it’s higher today at 7.1
The Gp yesterday said that anything up to 7.0 is normal but i thought that was for diabetics not normal people??
 

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Morning All
I’ve just done a waking BS test and it’s higher today at 7.1
The Gp yesterday said that anything up to 7.0 is normal but i thought that was for diabetics not normal people??

A fasting test of 7 or over is an indicator that diabetes may be present. If done in the doctor's surgery, it would be followed by an HbA1c for a more accurate diagnosis. Below 5.5 is considered normal. 5.5 to 6.9 is considered pre-diabetic.
 

Kazza01

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A fasting test of 7 or over is an indicator that diabetes may be present. If done in the doctor's surgery, it would be followed by an HbA1c for a more accurate diagnosis. Below 5.5 is considered normal. 5.5 to 6.9 is considered pre-diabetic.

yes this is what i thought. I am having a Hba1c test tomorrow so will get the results in a few days. I was confused that he said anything up to 7 was normal?
 

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yes this is what i thought. I am having a Hba1c test tomorrow so will get the results in a few days. I was confused that he said anything up to 7 was normal?

Well he was right in that it isn't classed as diabetic. :banghead:
 

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so what is classed as diabetic then?
Also i’m still non diabetic? i’m confused ‍♀️ lol

Only the HbA1c can class you as diabetic (Or the OGTT that some surgeries do). A finger prick test on its own is not reliable enough. You will have to be patient and wait for your results and then you will know for sure. Let us know what the result is.
 

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Am really interested in following this thread. My fasting BS is usually 6.9 at the moment - my last HbA1c was 43 - not quite bad enough to be called a diabetic!!
 

Kazza01

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Only the HbA1c can class you as diabetic (Or the OGTT that some surgeries do). A finger prick test on its own is not reliable enough. You will have to be patient and wait for your results and then you will know for sure. Let us know what the result is.
Sorry to be a pain but why does everyone including hospitals use the finger prick tests if they are not reliable and could be giving false readings? i’m very confused?
 
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I believe it’s not helpful to focus solely on the arbitrary labels and HbA1c averages that define them. In my view, fasting glucose tests of 6+ (assuming accuracy and repeatability) are an indicator that the subject is reasonably high in the spectrum of insulin resistance and needs to take evasive action as a matter of priority.
 

Kazza01

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I believe it’s not helpful to focus solely on the arbitrary labels and HbA1c averages that define them. In my view, fasting glucose tests of 6+ (assuming accuracy and repeatability) are an indicator that the subject is reasonably high in the spectrum of insulin resistance and needs to take evasive action as a matter of priority.
When you say action do you mean go to the GP? As i’ve just had a HbA1c test this morning and will get the results in a couple of days. I was just wondering as for the last couple of days my finger prick fasting has been 7.1
 
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When you say action do you mean go to the GP? As i’ve just had a HbA1c test this morning and will get the results in a couple of days. I was just wondering as for the last couple of days my finger prick fasting has been 7.1

I just mean it’s probably time to start thinking about lifestyle and dietary changes. Assuming reasonably accurate and repeated elevated fasting tests, there’s little doubt that one is on a higher rung of the insulin resistance ladder, irrespective of an arbitrary label as defined by the HbA1c. A1c is of course a powerful tool, but it doesn’t say much about individual hyperglycaemic events, and says nothing about inuslin levels.

I don’t mean to unnecessarily complicate the topic - I was responding mainly to the discussion surrounding HbA1c, prediabetes and diabetes. It’s all metablic dysfunction, regardless of numbers and names. Therefore a change of habits is likely on the horizon, so it can’t hurt to be mentally prepared and armed with knowledge :)
 

Kazza01

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I just mean it’s probably time to start thinking about lifestyle and dietary changes. Assuming reasonably accurate and repeated elevated fasting tests, there’s little doubt that one is on a higher rung of the insulin resistance ladder, irrespective of an arbitrary label as defined by the HbA1c. A1c is of course a powerful tool, but it doesn’t say much about individual hyperglycaemic events, and says nothing about inuslin levels.

I don’t mean to unnecessarily complicate the topic - I was responding mainly to the discussion surrounding HbA1c, prediabetes and diabetes. It’s all metablic dysfunction, regardless of numbers and names. Therefore a change of habits is likely on the horizon, so it can’t hurt to be mentally prepared and armed with knowledge :)
Unfortunately my worry is i have been LCHF for the past year and have lost 2 stone in weight which i think is good? However not been feeling to good and recent finger fasting results have been raised 7.1 and one day 9.2