Early March 2019 - Group Fasting Support

[HSSS]

@HSSS, I find the exact opposite! When I'm doing an extended fast, I find I'm very serene and not at all crabby. When I'm eating, especially if I lapse and include carbs, I tend to get more crabby under stress. Just shows how different we all are, and I think I'm maybe very sensitive to sugar as a drug.

I have only done two extended fasts, though, so I'm no expert yet!

Serene and uncrabby would take a miracle not a fast!

Still having to cook for everyone else might be the tough bit - it’s always the stressful bit - and I’ll have to make sure I’m elsewhere when they eat it. I’m making them a pasta bake which they don’t get often, usually when I’m eating out but at least I won’t be tempted (never liked pasta).

 

[Spl@]

Serene and uncrabby would take a miracle not a fast!

Still having to cook for everyone else might be the tough bit - it’s always the stressful bit - and I’ll have to make sure I’m elsewhere when they eat it. I’m making them a pasta bake which they don’t get often, usually when I’m eating out but at least I won’t be tempted (never liked pasta).

Yep sucked when I was cooking for my lot. 48 done, second one in a fortnight and personally don't fancy another for a bit. First one was easy, this second one not so much. Really didn't enjoy my dinner after waiting for it for so long.

 

[HSSS]

Yep sucked when I was cooking for my lot. 48 done, second one in a fortnight and personally don't fancy another for a bit. First one was easy, this second one not so much. Really didn't enjoy my dinner after waiting for it for so long.

First lesson learnt. Start after dinner not lunch. That way if cooking dinner cracks me then at least I’ll have got most of the 24hrs done. And I don’t find nor eating breakfast hard and can even skip lunch when alone but dinner seems harder to skip. It would be so much easier living alone

 

[Goonergal]

dinner seems harder to skip. It would be so much easier living alone

Agree on both - lunch far easier to skip. I do live alone which makes planning these things a lot easier. Admire those of you that have to fit around others.

Feeling much better for having eaten so made the right decision to stop. It’s weird both this week and last, I woke up on the second morning feeling like I could go beyond 48 hours but within a couple of hours was too hungry to contemplate it. Last week I did get to 48 hours but today I felt awful. Learning from both is that I’m better off with OMAD or perhaps 30 hour fasts if I want to do a bit more.

Results are looking good for all and kudos to those of you on longer fasts.

Will check in tomorrow with weight, ketones etc.

 

[Merrylizard1314]

@Goonergal well done for stopping when you felt peelywally. Hope you feel really great again soon.
Woke up early today, bonus dogwalk, much enjoyed.
BGL 4.7
Ketones3.2
BP120/70
Total weight loss 5.1kg but I am counting this as only half real.

And today I am off for a lunch meeting which will probably upset this progress.
Back on Monday for another go. I have enjoyed the support very much.

 

[Goonergal]

Great results @Merrylizard1314

Final readings for me:

FBG - 4.4
Ketones - 3.3 (Caresens), 3.1 (On Call)
Weight - 58.2kg - up after eating yesterday (by 0.3kg) and only 0.3kg down overall. Think my body is now trying to hold on to what it has.

Good luck for the final stretch @Chook

 

[jpscloud]

I also live alone and I'm sure that helps me stay focused. Well done indeed to those who manage to work it around busy households!

I'm hoping to fast today and tomorrow, breaking my fast tomorrow evening. I saw weight management services yesterday, and they are very pleased with my progress and had heard of Jason Fung, so it was easier to explain what I was doing. However I'm not sure they grasped the concept of fasting very well as I was asked "And when you're fasting, what meals do you eat?" Ummm...

To be fair there are lots of fasting variations like OMAD so it probably wasn't such a daft question really.

 

[Minal17040]

Really difficult day yesterday; thought about food too much. Day 3 has always been difficult in the past.
Managed to get through it, feel ok this morning.
FBG - 5.9 mmol/l - which is a great improvement on the week.

Hope you're all good.

 

[bulkbiker]

Really difficult day yesterday; thought about food too much. Day 3 has always been difficult in the past.
Managed to get through it, feel ok this morning.
FBG - 5.9 mmol/l - which is a great improvement on the week.

Hope you're all good.

That 48-72 hour is often the hardest well done for breaking through it!

 

[HSSS]

Well not sure what I’m making of this. Began yesterday after an early lunch
11.30 pre lunch 5.5
1735 5.2
2214 5.5
0007 5.5
0718 5.7 (not feet on floor but my usual 10 mins or so into routines)
0928 5.9

Now I’d typically be seeing 6’s other than some high 5’s just before meals. First thing is usually higher 6’s. So there’s improvement. This morning seems to be rising not falling despite being further into the fast.

Previously I’ve thought I rise after getting up, only falling when I eat or it gets to the middle of the day at the earliest. Fasting since yesterday doesn’t seem to affect this.

I’m hungry and a little nauseous. With empty rumbling noises. Yet another tea being made. I know I’m well hydrated for sure. I’m thinking at the moment I’ll be calling it quits at 24 hrs and trying again with different start points ie after dinner not lunch next week.

 

[Caeseji]

Day one of fasting, started after dinner the previous night so around 17 hours into it right now, going to try to go for the 48 hours.

BG at waking has been 6.1 so hopefully this'll help get things back under control a bit, probably the larger dinner I had prepping for this.

Good luck to everyone still going and glad you felt better too @Goonergal and that sounds like a good idea to me too @HSSS

 

[Caeseji]

Side note: I am addicted to vanilla chai tea from Tesco now, good lord.

 

[HSSS]

Ok I’m done. 24 hrs. Reading just now 5.3. Some lamb leftovers and cheese pepper and pate roll ups for lunch. Look8ng forward to Roast chicken dinner this evening. Although it was only a day the scales show a weight loss of 1.3kg. A little more than daily fluctuations typically are.

So slightly improved figures. Learnt to start after dinner. Seems whatever I do first thing is how my body likes to continue a large part of the day, eating or not eating. It wasn’t as bad as I feared but no revelatory clearness of mind or boost in anything. I can barely hear myself type above the belly rumbles though. I’ll do it again soon though as a sample of one experience isn’t a lot and it wasn’t awful.

 

[bulkbiker]

Ok I’m done. 24 hrs. Reading just now 5.3. Some lamb leftovers and cheese pepper and pate roll ups for lunch. Look8ng forward to Roast chicken dinner this evening. Although it was only a day the scales show a weight loss of 1.3kg. A little more than daily fluctuations typically are.

So slightly improved figures. Learnt to start after dinner. Seems whatever I do first thing is how my body likes to continue a large part of the day, eating or not eating. It wasn’t as bad as I feared but no revelatory clearness of mind or boost in anything. I can barely hear myself type above the belly rumbles though. I’ll do it again soon though as a sample of one experience isn’t a lot and it wasn’t awful.

From tiny acorns..well done

 

[Chook]

Five days of fasting is definitely at least one day too long, I am now feeling distinctly strange and light headed....

FBG - 4.2 with only slight DP rise up to 4.8 before starting to go back down (I checked my records and this is the lowest FBG I've ever recorded!!!)

Weight - down another 0.1 kgs (making a total since Sunday morning of 4.6 kgs / just slightly over 10lbs - (as I've said before, I'm not expecting it to be a permanent loss)

Blood pressure - 104 / 64 - still taking the tablets but if it doesn't go back up to normal levels (for me) I will be discussing it with GP

Ketones - not bothering to test any more

Hunger - ABSOLUTELY MEGA - not so much coming in waves any more as being permanently at the front of my mind and I'm finding it hard to concentrate on anything else

Sleep - very bad night - struggled to get off to sleep then woke up 90 minutes later for a couple of hours of boredom, then another hour's sleep before waking up for good at 5am - what sleep i did have was filled with dreams of food. I think my subconscious has planned my meals for the next month!! Who in their right mind dreams about eating tinned tuna????

Other - Hunger is dominating everything at the moment so I will finish this post then cook myself some breakfast. The occasional waves of the dizzy, weak feeling when climbing the stairs or bending are still happening.

Physical results:
1. My arthritic joints seem less achey and I am able to walk upstairs with much less pain in my knees.
2 My psoriasis is definitely less itchyitchy and inflammed.
3. According to the bathroom scales I've lost very slightly over 10lbs.
4. Blood pressure has gone down.

Conclusions:

This was a water fast including black coffee and herbal teas with the specific purpose of triggering Autophagy and the reduction in joint pain indicates it was successful in that regard.

Fasting was fine with hunger just coming in waves - apart from skipping dinner on day one and breakfast on day 2 - right up until last night (the fifth night since I last ate) when hunger became literally overwhelming and didn't fade. This might be just me, though. I'm know other people have managed a LOT longer.

I still prefer fasting to calorie restriction so my plan is to do regular fasts of shorter duration - maybe a regular 48 hour fast each week or, more likely, a 3 or 4 day fast each month.

 

[jpscloud]

Well not sure what I’m making of this. Began yesterday after an early lunch
11.30 pre lunch 5.5
1735 5.2
2214 5.5
0007 5.5
0718 5.7 (not feet on floor but my usual 10 mins or so into routines)
0928 5.9

Now I’d typically be seeing 6’s other than some high 5’s just before meals. First thing is usually higher 6’s. So there’s improvement. This morning seems to be rising not falling despite being further into the fast.

Previously I’ve thought I rise after getting up, only falling when I eat or it gets to the middle of the day at the earliest. Fasting since yesterday doesn’t seem to affect this.

I’m hungry and a little nauseous. With empty rumbling noises. Yet another tea being made. I know I’m well hydrated for sure. I’m thinking at the moment I’ll be calling it quits at 24 hrs and trying again with different start points ie after dinner not lunch next week.

I'm having higher blood sugars than expected today - previously when fasting I'd be in the low 5s by now but I'm 6.2.

I've been drinking lemon and ginger in hot water instead of coffee. Could it be the lemon? I've been putting about a sixth of a small lemon in each drink.

 

[Chook]

I'm having higher blood sugars than expected today - previously when fasting I'd be in the low 5s by now but I'm 6.2.

I've been drinking lemon and ginger in hot water instead of coffee. Could it be the lemon? I've been putting about a sixth of a small lemon in each drink.

I wouldn't have thought so but you could try cutting out the lemon and test before and two hours after.

 

[bulkbiker]

Five days of fasting is definitely at least one day too long, I am now feeling distinctly strange and light headed....

FBG - 4.2 with only slight DP rise up to 4.8 before starting to go back down (I checked my records and this is the lowest FBG I've ever recorded!!!)

Weight - down another 0.1 kgs (making a total since Sunday morning of 4.6 kgs / just slightly over 10lbs - (as I've said before, I'm not expecting it to be a permanent loss)

Blood pressure - 104 / 64 - still taking the tablets but if it doesn't go back up to normal levels (for me) I will be discussing it with GP

Ketones - not bothering to test any more

Hunger - ABSOLUTELY MEGA - not so much coming in waves any more as being permanently at the front of my mind and I'm finding it hard to concentrate on anything else

Sleep - very bad night - struggled to get off to sleep then woke up 90 minutes later for a couple of hours of boredom, then another hour's sleep before waking up for good at 5am - what sleep i did have was filled with dreams of food. I think my subconscious has planned my meals for the next month!! Who in their right mind dreams about eating tinned tuna????

Other - Hunger is dominating everything at the moment so I will finish this post then cook myself some breakfast. The occasional waves of the dizzy, weak feeling when climbing the stairs or bending are still happening.

Physical results:
1. My arthritic joints seem less achey and I am able to walk upstairs with much less pain in my knees.
2 My psoriasis is definitely less itchyitchy and inflammed.
3. According to the bathroom scales I've lost very slightly over 10lbs.
4. Blood pressure has gone down.

Conclusions:

This was a water fast including black coffee and herbal teas with the specific purpose of triggering Autophagy and the reduction in joint pain indicates it was successful in that regard.

Fasting was fine with hunger just coming in waves - apart from skipping dinner on day one and breakfast on day 2 - right up until last night (the fifth night since I last ate) when hunger became literally overwhelming and didn't fade. This might be just me, though. I'm know other people have managed a LOT longer.

I still prefer fasting to calorie restriction so my plan is to do regular fasts of shorter duration - maybe a regular 48 hour fast each week or, more likely, a 3 or 4 day fast each month.

Have you been salting?

 

[Chook]

Have you been salting?

Yes.... pink Himalayan salt made a difference on days 3 and 4 but not last night (night 5) and today.

 

[Caeseji]

Sit rep: Around 14:45pm my stomach just decided it was a dragon and started roaring up a storm, going to head off and get my greatsword to slay it aka. a big ol' bottle of water.