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Joripo

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I have 2 more blood tests to complete before I am told if I am diabetic.

Rather than wait, I have decided to be pro active with my diet and change the foods I am eating and the way I look at the food labels.

I understand the less than 5g of sugar per 100g but I have a couple of questions.

1) In liquids how much sugar per 100ml

2) I have now come across Polyols, so how much per 100g

Sorry to ask, but its all new to me.

Thanks in advance.

John
 

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Hello and welcome,

Firstly, please don't dwell on sugar content. Sugar is just one of many carbs. Try to dwell on carbs, and on all labels look for the total carbs in 100g. or 100ml. All carbs, whatever type or colour, convert to sugar once in the system. So it isn't just about sugar, I'm afraid.

If there are no labels on the liquids, you need to do a bit of research to discover how many carbs there are per 100ml. Google will help with this. You can google any of the major supermarkets who helpfully list all their products with the nutrition values. So you can google your product + Tesco and it should show you.
 
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Why sugar?
Are you intending to reduce all carbohydrates in your diet - to help lower blood glucose levels?
Polyols are best left alone - or tried out in very small quantities.
You might not be able to digest and absorb them, but your gut flora and fauna can - mine held a party and I thought I was about to become geography!!!
 
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1st well done for finding your way here and being proactive. Don't just look at "sugar" look at total carbohydrates, many of us Type 2's and pre type 2's follow a low(er) carb diet, and high(er)fat LCHF way of eating, forget everything you've been told for the past 40 years by mainstream media and medical reports, fat doesn't make you fat, carbs do! This means cutting out or reducing to minimal levels brown and beige carbs (bread, rice, pasta and pastry) and eating lots of green, leafy veg, moderate protein and fat, forget all those low fat "diet" foods, eat the chicken skin if you want to, as fats have a minimal effect on your Blood Glucose levels. I'll also tag @daisy1 for her fab introductory post, and remember, this condition is a marathon, not a sprint, no question is silly, what works for someone else won't necessarily work for you. We are all learning from each other every day
 
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Everyone above has covered sugars and carbs so I’ll address polyols. Polyols are alcohol sugars which are carbohydrates but for most people aren’t absorbed so don’t affect blood sugar levels. Therefore to calculate the impact carbs of an item you need to subtract the polyol carbs from the total carbs. Do test though because some people do get a spike from polyols.
 
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Bluetit1802

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I have just discovered mushrooms contain polyols. I never knew that. So do cauliflowers apparently. I eat tons of mushrooms.
 
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The other things which may be covered under carbs is fibre.
Unfortunately, just like metric and imperial measurements, the US and UK (and maybe other countries) differ on how we report these on food packaging.
In the UK, fibre is already subtracted from the total carb value, In the US, fibre isa included.
Technically, fibre is a carb. However, like polyols, we do not absorb the carbs from fibre. Therefore, if you are reading food packaged in the US, you also need to subtract the "fiber" (as they would write it) from the total carbs.

And, as Lessci says above, is great that you are proactively addressing this - even if your blood test results don't show that you have diabetes now, a lower carb diet is likely to reduce your risk of getting type 2 in the future.
 
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Rachox

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I have just discovered mushrooms contain polyols. I never knew that. So do cauliflowers apparently. I eat tons of mushrooms.
I just Googled that, stoned fruits do too including cherries and avocados. Who knew? I always thought they were artificially made!
 
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I just Googled that, stoned fruits do too including cherries and avocados. Who knew? I always thought they were artificially made!
And I've just discovered these stones contain (small amounts of) cyanide! Google knows so much.
It's ok to eat the fruit but try not to eat too many cherry, avocado or apricot stones.
 
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And I've just discovered these stones contain (small amounts of) cyanide! Google knows so much.
It's ok to eat the fruit but try not to eat too many cherry, avocado or apricot stones.

I did know cyanide was in apple stones/cores. I will be very careful not to eat cherry, avocado or apricot stones! My teeth might crack. ;)
 

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Hello John and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both interesting and helpful.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Muddikins

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Can't better all the advice already given except to add that polyols cause dreadful diarrhea:( in any kind of quantity.
 
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