Newly Diagnosed

rodwillis

Newbie
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi

I was diagnosed with T2 yesterday and been given some medication to be getting on with, but I could do with some help with the diet. If I explain my circumstances that may help, I'm up at 5 leaving the house at 6 with a 1 - 2 hour drive, doing a hard physical job for 8 hours then a 1 - 2 hour drive home, then walk the dog etc

Because I'm away from home and driving etc is there a certain diet that can get me through the day, just starving myself could become problematic and I do need energy to get through the day

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
 

Bluetit1802

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Hello and welcome,

Can I ask you to clarify matters a little. You say you were diagnosed as T2 and given some medication to be getting on with, but your profile settings say you are pre-diabetic on diet only. It would help to know which it is, and if you were given medication, what is it? You can amend your profile settings if they are incorrect. Incorrect details can lead to inappropriate responses.

Do you know what your diagnostic level was (HbA1c)?

Meanwhile, I am tagging @daisy1 for her valuable introduction post as this may answer some of your questions. Have a good read round the forum, and ask any questions.
 

rodwillis

Newbie
Messages
3
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hello and welcome,

Can I ask you to clarify matters a little. You say you were diagnosed as T2 and given some medication to be getting on with, but your profile settings say you are pre-diabetic on diet only. It would help to know which it is, and if you were given medication, what is it? You can amend your profile settings if they are incorrect. Incorrect details can lead to inappropriate responses.

Do you know what your diagnostic level was (HbA1c)?

Meanwhile, I am tagging @daisy1 for her valuable introduction post as this may answer some of your questions. Have a good read round the forum, and ask any questions.
 

rodwillis

Newbie
Messages
3
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
I'll change the details, I was pre-diabetic but no longer, as for the other details I don't know yet, I have a meeting with a nurse in a week or so
 
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Daibell

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LADA
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Insulin
Hi. It can be awkward if you have difficult work pattern. Have eggs and bacon rather than cereal for breakfast. Cheese, nuts and berries are fine for snacking. Protein and fat are always OK, just keep the carbs down
 
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Resurgam

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You should not need to load up with carbs to do a hard physical job - quite the reverse seems to be the situation for me - after dropping all the carbs from my diet I have developed more muscle power and have gone back to work as I can once again manage to do the lifting required to manoeuvre knitting machines.
If you can eat a good breakfast, maybe eat a snack after the drive, have your lunch with you, then take a few minutes to eat again before driving home you should be able to ensure that you are well nourished and not feeling frazzled at the end of the day.
 
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Bluetit1802

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I have to disagree with those suggesting snacks between meals. If you eat a proper low carb meal with enough fat and protein there is no need to feel hungry. Snacking is not the best idea for T2's because it encourages insulin resistance. Best to let the pancreas rest and keep insulin levels low. If a snack is necessary, zero carb is best - maybe some cheese or a boiled egg.
 
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daisy1

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@rodwillis
Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and helpful.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 600,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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There’s some good advice here. I see people in petrol stations grabbing chocolate, cereal bars and sugary carbonated drinks all the time because of their lifestyle but if you are diabetic this is definitely out now. The advice someone has given to try a protein based breakfast is good. Bacon and eggs are quick and easy. Adding some mushroom and tomatoes to the pan would be good. As for snacks on the road, hard boil some eggs and refrigerate. Use as required. Try a handful of mixed nuts (unsalted). Or an ounce of cheese and a small apple. People think they will be hungry, but after a couple of days, you adapt. It’s really vital for you to reduce carbohydrate levels and it’s important to lose weight. Grabbing a pack of sandwiches and a bag of crisps for lunch is also out. Even garages often sell ready made salads if you don’t have time to prepare or do a ploughman’s with a selection of cheese, hard boiled egg, cold ham, chicken, a small apple, a few nuts, teaspoonful of pickle, pickled onions etc and drink diet drinks or carbonated or still water. Try to walk as much as you can too. You just have to make up your mind to this for yourself. Best wishes.
 
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There’s some good advice here. I see people in petrol stations grabbing chocolate, cereal bars and sugary carbonated drinks all the time because of their lifestyle but if you are diabetic this is definitely out now. The advice someone has given to try a protein based breakfast is good. Bacon and eggs are quick and easy. Adding some mushroom and tomatoes to the pan would be good. As for snacks on the road, hard boil some eggs and refrigerate. Use as required. Try a handful of mixed nuts (unsalted). Or an ounce of cheese and a small apple. People think they will be hungry, but after a couple of days, you adapt. It’s really vital for you to reduce carbohydrate levels and it’s important to lose weight. Grabbing a pack of sandwiches and a bag of crisps for lunch is also out. Even garages often sell ready made salads if you don’t have time to prepare or do a ploughman’s with a selection of cheese, hard boiled egg, cold ham, chicken, a small apple, a few nuts, teaspoonful of pickle, pickled onions etc and drink diet drinks or carbonated or still water. Try to walk as much as you can too. You just have to make up your mind to this for yourself. Best wishes.