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Frosty66

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Hi everyone I'm Janet
I've been off the forum for quite a while. I thought I can handle this diabetes. But I cant and it's getting me down. Mainly because Dr cant find suitable tablet I'm now feeling very unwell on the slow release they arnt working so tablet change. My blood sugars rocketed and its left me frightened to eat. I got bs down to 6.8 then a bowl of oats and it went upto 11.8 its making me so miserable.
 

Kittycat_7_

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Hi Janet
Welcome back
Sorry your feeling miserable
Could you reduce your carb intake?
Is it Metformin that you have been taking
Lots of different meds available
Hope you get control soon
Take care
 
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urbanracer

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Hi everyone I'm Janet
I've been off the forum for quite a while. I thought I can handle this diabetes. But I cant and it's getting me down. Mainly because Dr cant find suitable tablet I'm now feeling very unwell on the slow release they arnt working so tablet change. My blood sugars rocketed and its left me frightened to eat. I got bs down to 6.8 then a bowl of oats and it went upto 11.8 its making me so miserable.

Looking at your posting history I read that you joined a diabetes group in 2015. What happened? Are you still in contact with them?

Your posts seemed quite positive back then, (noted the comment about loose clothes !) Are you low carbing now?
 

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I got bs down to 6.8 then a bowl of oats and it went upto 11.8 its making me so miserable.
A bowl of oats would do the same to almost all of us type 2 regardless of metformin or not. It sounds like you’ve been told to eat starchy carbs at every meal (eatwell plate). Is that the case? If so it won’t be helping you at all and is poor outdated advice. Carbs like this will be causing you higher numbers.

I know you’re not new but can I get @daisy1 to resend the welcome info to see if that reminder helps
 
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Welcome back, @Frosty66 .
It is so easy let diabetes management slip when you stop posting. Stick with us, and get some control back. Hope you feel better and get the right meds and diet balance soon.
 
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@Frosty66
Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both interesting and helpful.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 600,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Frosty66

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Hi Janet
Welcome back
Sorry your feeling miserable
Could you reduce your carb intake?
Is it Metformin that you have been taking
Lots of different meds available
Hope you get control soon
Take care
I'm on slow release 3 times a day but I have such a terrible headache plus feeling bloated full of with wind. I see Dr Friday. What makes me miserable is I now have Neuropathy in both feet. I'm going to try the low carb as I think this might work.
 
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CondorX

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Hi everyone I'm Janet
I've been off the forum for quite a while. I thought I can handle this diabetes. But I cant and it's getting me down. Mainly because Dr cant find suitable tablet I'm now feeling very unwell on the slow release they arnt working so tablet change. My blood sugars rocketed and its left me frightened to eat. I got bs down to 6.8 then a bowl of oats and it went upto 11.8 its making me so miserable.

So sorry you are feeling like this - but if you cam muster up the strength and resolve, do try to reduce carbs considerably, in my case the horrible bloating went away in the first week - and I have been able to reduce my reliance on gastric reflux / heartburn medication - so you may well feel a lot better. This is such a lovely forum and so active, always someone to advise and support. And lots of Low Carb advice too. Hope you feel better soon
 

Kittycat_7_

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Hi,
Sorry you have neuropathy as well, some have had helpful changes with the low carb approach.
Are you on any meds like gabapentin for the nerve pain?
Hope you feel better slow.
Discuss with your GP about changing the Metformin.
Good luck for your appointment.
 
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Geordie_P

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Yes, Frosty, low-carb is good for neuropathy.
Also, from the numbers you posted, I think you should be able to feel much better and get better results if you adjust your diet, so don't be miserable!
6.8 looks ok numbers-wise, and 11.8 is completely expected after oatmeal: don't eat oatmeal. If you have high-sugars and wind, then oatmeal would be about the worst thing to eat.
 
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Hi @Frosty66. Hope this wonderful Sunday morning finds you in good spirits. Well, I say wonderful, it’s grey and miserable in my hunting grounds today, but the sun is always shining above the clouds!

I wanted to let you know that I have reversed my neuropathy using a real food, ketogenic, anti-inflammatory, grain-free and seed oil-free diet. Mine was also fairly advanced and was causing severe pain. It can be done.
 

HSSS

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I’ve seen r-ala supplements mentioned on here as very useful for neuropathy. Try a search and see what it turns up