Plant based diet
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Hi, thanks for the feedback but my understanding of the plant based diet is that you eat all the veg including lots of high fiber, legumes and root veg, in fact as naturally as possible and unprocessed. You eliminate all animal products but retain as naturally rich diet as possible similar to a vegan or vegetarian but the emphasis is on as natural as possible. I have been following the mastering diabetes programme and seems to really help with lowering levels.
Oops sorry, new to this - I am a type 1, I have been for 29 years now! Anyway was just wondering about vegans/vegetarians and those on plant based diets in terms of their bs control?
I cant help because I am not T1, but someone will no doubt be along soon to answer your question.
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I did it as soon as i got diagnosed, went from 113 HBA1C down to 43 in about 9 months.
That was mostly with eating fruit and the occassional veggie or plant or seeds into smoothies. But pretty much all fruit and some honey in smoothies.
That was mostly with eating fruit and the occassional veggie or plant or seeds into smoothies. But pretty much all fruit and some honey in smoothies.
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Thats very interesting, how were you graded as T2 diabetic. According to your post you should have easily passed the Oral Glucose Tolerance Test aka OGTT
Detrucci
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Yeah so I have a NutriBullet RX 1700 which is a 1.2litre cup 
I always do 2 bananas as a base, then I use frozen fruits so these can include: Pomegranate Seeds, Pineapple, Mango, Strawberries, Raspberries, Cherries, RedCurrents and a whole other bunch of berries. It can also include Peach, Watermelon and some other less used ones.
Added to the smoothies is generally about 500ml-1 litre of Unflavoured Soy Milk and then on top of that I will generally add Seeds or Leafs depending on my mood (somtimes i dont have any) But for seeds I like Chia Seeds and Sunflower Seeds, Recently I have been also using Pumpkin Seeds. For Leafy Greens I like: Baby Spinach and Red Chard
I also do 1 or 2 teaspoons of honey to sweeten it up and then blend it for 1 minute. Down the hatch it goes
I usually have 1 or 2 smoothies in a day.
As for normal fruits, I generally stick to something easy like a 500g bag of Grapes in a day, or 2 apples or, maybe 2 Pomegranates if they are in season.
The seeds get used for different dense nutritional value that dont come with the fruit or veg.
Also Pasha, I had all the symptoms for about 4 months and so I went to the doctors and got my bloods and stuff all done and then got diagnosed with it february last year. They gave me a 3 month grace period before I had to go in Insulin and I managed to get it down to 63 and then in november down to 43. In terms of sugar intake, i dont know if you guys count Fruit, but that is pretty much what I have been living on and it has been beautiful so far. So much so that I decided to go fully plant based back in July.
So in terms of my personal experience, I can say that A Plant Based Diet works, and that the insane amount of nutritional value you get from it will even help you in other areas of your life.
I always do 2 bananas as a base, then I use frozen fruits so these can include: Pomegranate Seeds, Pineapple, Mango, Strawberries, Raspberries, Cherries, RedCurrents and a whole other bunch of berries. It can also include Peach, Watermelon and some other less used ones.
Added to the smoothies is generally about 500ml-1 litre of Unflavoured Soy Milk and then on top of that I will generally add Seeds or Leafs depending on my mood (somtimes i dont have any) But for seeds I like Chia Seeds and Sunflower Seeds, Recently I have been also using Pumpkin Seeds. For Leafy Greens I like: Baby Spinach and Red Chard
I also do 1 or 2 teaspoons of honey to sweeten it up and then blend it for 1 minute. Down the hatch it goes
I usually have 1 or 2 smoothies in a day.
As for normal fruits, I generally stick to something easy like a 500g bag of Grapes in a day, or 2 apples or, maybe 2 Pomegranates if they are in season.
The seeds get used for different dense nutritional value that dont come with the fruit or veg.
Also Pasha, I had all the symptoms for about 4 months and so I went to the doctors and got my bloods and stuff all done and then got diagnosed with it february last year. They gave me a 3 month grace period before I had to go in Insulin and I managed to get it down to 63 and then in november down to 43. In terms of sugar intake, i dont know if you guys count Fruit, but that is pretty much what I have been living on and it has been beautiful so far. So much so that I decided to go fully plant based back in July.
So in terms of my personal experience, I can say that A Plant Based Diet works, and that the insane amount of nutritional value you get from it will even help you in other areas of your life.
Detrucci
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Here is some images and examples of my smoothies throughout the year of last year and still to this day
This one is feb 2018 (right as I was diagnosed with 113 HBA1C)
This one is in November 2018 (43 HBA1C result)
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Here is some images and examples of my smoothies throughout the year of last year and still to this day
View attachment 31508 This one is feb 2018 (right as I was diagnosed with 113 HBA1C)
View attachment 31507 This one is in November 2018 (43 HBA1C result)
That's very good A1C. So were you on insulin or any medication?
And would be great if you could share your post meal glucose readings if you have them...
Very surprised that someone managed to get their diabetes under control using a cocktail of glucose and fructose. Impressive
Hi Ashleyneildas. I’ve been diagnosed as a type 1 for just over a year and have been vegetarian for 35 years. I rarely eat fruit. I’ve tried low carb for a few months and that had a good effect on my HBA1C levels but a bad effect on my sanity because my diet was so limited. I’m a runner and I found my energy levels were very low. I’ve gone back to eating carbs and have taken the hit on my HBA1C.
it helped me loose some weight but unfortunately after 5 months on it i developed a nasty gastrointestinal inflammation.
It is possible that i had an underlying genetic predisposition which was triggered by the high fibre intake of the plant based diet.
i m still in a lot of discomfort and pain.
That was my unfortunate experience.
It is possible that i had an underlying genetic predisposition which was triggered by the high fibre intake of the plant based diet.
i m still in a lot of discomfort and pain.
That was my unfortunate experience.
I’m also surprised and completely baffled by this because fruit just messes me up completely my blood sugars spike ridiculously and that’s before we even get to the bananas!!!!
Very surprised that someone managed to get their diabetes under control using a cocktail of glucose and fructose. Impressive
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I bought a Nutribullet shortly before diagnosis - I only used it a few times before accepting that there was no way I could use it and have reasonable blood glucose levels. Even blitzing a green salad with no fruit caused a high spike. The cell walls are ruptured giving easy access to the carbs.
I enjoy all the low carb veges I eat as part of my diet now - but they amount to under 40 gm of carbs a day as I cannot cope with more.
I enjoy all the low carb veges I eat as part of my diet now - but they amount to under 40 gm of carbs a day as I cannot cope with more.
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I'm T1 and vegan. I have maintained an HbA1C in the high 30's for years now.
I do it by meal planning, and although I am wholly plant based I am moderately carb based, some days work out to about 50g others to about 120g. It all depends on who cooks what. I have home made seitan bacon, scrambled tofu and mushrooms or tomatoes for breakfast, sometimes with a slice of toast but usually not. Lunch will be a large bowl of assorted chopped/sliced veg (usually raw) and/or salad. I use parmegan as a topping (whizzed engevita and nuts -gives a very savoury flavoured topping), usually some sunflower seeds and usually some sprouted seeds. Often I'll add a dollop of oil - usually flavoured olive oil - to that. Yesterday I was tired and had a pot of M& cauliflour dahl with some cherry tomatoes, cucumber and parmegan.
Dinner depends hugely on which of us is cooking and what they feel like doing. Always includes a lot of veg - think huge stir fries, curries, etc. Afterwards I'll have berries & yoghurt.
My snacks are nuts or vegan dark chocolate.
I eat about 10 portions of salad and veg a day, with one portion of fruit. And try not to add more processed vegan food ie. processed stuff ie shop bought pies etc. than you have to. If you don't like cooking then OK, but read the labels so that you can see if you're taking in healthy bought food. The more natural, the better.
This is just my way of eating, and I'm lucky because I like cooking and have a husband who into the lifestyle too.
It works for me.
I do it by meal planning, and although I am wholly plant based I am moderately carb based, some days work out to about 50g others to about 120g. It all depends on who cooks what. I have home made seitan bacon, scrambled tofu and mushrooms or tomatoes for breakfast, sometimes with a slice of toast but usually not. Lunch will be a large bowl of assorted chopped/sliced veg (usually raw) and/or salad. I use parmegan as a topping (whizzed engevita and nuts -gives a very savoury flavoured topping), usually some sunflower seeds and usually some sprouted seeds. Often I'll add a dollop of oil - usually flavoured olive oil - to that. Yesterday I was tired and had a pot of M& cauliflour dahl with some cherry tomatoes, cucumber and parmegan.
Dinner depends hugely on which of us is cooking and what they feel like doing. Always includes a lot of veg - think huge stir fries, curries, etc. Afterwards I'll have berries & yoghurt.
My snacks are nuts or vegan dark chocolate.
I eat about 10 portions of salad and veg a day, with one portion of fruit. And try not to add more processed vegan food ie. processed stuff ie shop bought pies etc. than you have to. If you don't like cooking then OK, but read the labels so that you can see if you're taking in healthy bought food. The more natural, the better.
This is just my way of eating, and I'm lucky because I like cooking and have a husband who into the lifestyle too.
It works for me.
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Forgot to say - if you do switch, you'll need a source of B12 - fortified mlks, yoghurts, creams, Marmite, engevita - a lot of foods marked "vegan" have added B12. If you don't take any fortified foods you'll need to supplement.
Also, the major supermarkets are a great source for very tasty plant based products. M& S have their Plant Kitchen range, most of which is good, and Sainsburys have Love your Veg. Again, some very successful products in that range.
If you pop into the Veggie & Vegan forum we have a thread of Products we've liked on the go, and also the thread on what we've had to eat each day can be helpful for ideas. It's a huge thread but worth trawling.
Also, the major supermarkets are a great source for very tasty plant based products. M& S have their Plant Kitchen range, most of which is good, and Sainsburys have Love your Veg. Again, some very successful products in that range.
If you pop into the Veggie & Vegan forum we have a thread of Products we've liked on the go, and also the thread on what we've had to eat each day can be helpful for ideas. It's a huge thread but worth trawling.
