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It took this forum to steer me away from the advice currently being given to diabetics by the NHS. Attached is from page 6 of the booklet I received...........
That little lot certainly wouldn't move you towards remission...sad but the state of play for many these days.View attachment 35593View attachment 35593
It took this forum to steer me away from the advice currently being given to diabetics by the NHS. Attached is from page 6 of the booklet I received...........
But his A1C was 44 last check.
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It took this forum to steer me away from the advice currently being given to diabetics by the NHS. Attached is from page 6 of the booklet I received...........
@CatManRob - can you elaborate on why eggs should be avoided?
Edit - and red meat?
Just a comment on chlorinated chicken also - we do have chlorinated water here in the uk, so while I'm not sure about concentrations, we certainly could view the hype as more political than health oriented.
I think CatManRib meant in the case of a nutritionist recommending eggs they can’t as “eggs and red meat should be avoided”. Ie, that’s what they say and are taught to tell patients. Hope that makes sense!
which succeeded in blocking a trial of a plant-based diet on Texas,
Personally, I'm trying a veggie higher fat diet,
@CatManRob - can you elaborate on why eggs should be avoided?
Edit - and red meat?
Just a comment on chlorinated chicken also - we do have chlorinated water here in the uk, so while I'm not sure about concentrations, we certainly could view the hype as more political than health oriented.
Hi jpscloud,
I would just like to clarify that it isn't the actual chlorination of US chicken that is considered to be the problem,
It is the lax standards and poor processing hygiene that makes the chlorination necessary.
Also a University study has shown that Chlorination doesn't actually kill all the nasty bugs (I forget which ones for the moment), but just suppresses them so that they aren't found in any subsequent tests and later start to multiply again.
If you want to take that risk - you are welcome!
I agree that too many antibiotics are still used in meat production, but Growth Hormone is banned in the UK ( and the EU) - so that isn't a problem.I've replaced my animal protein with beans, peas and lentils and as a result, don't consume antibiotics & growth hormones that are routinely given to livestock before they appear at the supermarket.
Personally, I'm trying a veggie higher fat diet, with zero processed foods, using intermittent fasting to improve my insulin resistance. So it's sort of ketogenic, but not full of animal product. I basically eat one meal a day to help my insulin resistance calm down, while bringing down my A1C below 48mmol/L.
The only meat my mother would eat all her life was beef and lamb - she lived to her mid 90s and rarely saw a doctor.I think more like @CatManRob is suggesting that red meat and eggs are contributing factors to T2 as per La Greger
@CatManRob I'm carnivore with an HbA1c of 27 so why should I not be eating meat and eggs? Peas beans and lentils would put me firmly in the diabetic range, make me ill, hungry and fat (and many other T2’s).
Wot no bacon! Poor thing..The only meat my mother would eat all her life was beef and lamb - she lived to her mid 90s and rarely saw a doctor.
Robbity
I am glad it worked for your husband, but as a blanket statement of recommendation for all, the eatwell plate does not work. Tailored dietary ideas and teaching an understanding of the relationship between all sugars and insulin and blood sugar levels is important.This eating plan worked on my husband! Although he's a vegetarian, so a little bit of difference there. He does take Metformin, lost weight, eats more veggies as snacks, salads etc and less junk. But he still eats whole wheat bread, whole grains, whole wheat pastas etc. Metformin doesn't work for everyone, it just blocks what your liver is making. But when it does, it works great! He is still losing weight and probably will stay on Metformin because he still likes to eat some junk food. Everyone can vary what works for them. But his A1C was 44 last check.