Defatizing with Slimfast Gunk by Bob

[bowell]

Day 1 15th Aug 2011

Went for slim-fast as easer to get hold of List of Vit & minerals much the same as Optifast
when out can I pick a ready made shake or meal bar up at most chemists

I DON'T THINK FBG will tell me much as I am up 2 or three times every night with Medication
use catheter

Taking NO Metformin its taken a week to drop the 2500mg
Have to keep an eye on the BG then start dropping the Glit to match BG drop (If any)

BG 5.6 @ 8:00

1 Mug Black coffee
1 250ml chocolate Shake 8:30 this one is a Ok Taste
Off to GPs at 9:30 bloods & Urine also the Scales
2HR+ BG 6.5

Such a nice day up here in the North East after the Docs We went to the Toon
Lunch was prawn salad only thing OTT was the dressing
and black coffee ,
13:15 BG 6.3
BG2hr+6.8
Stopped around 15:00 for a coffee white

BG Not going up that high ? could be the other Meds still on Glit and Januvia
if i start dropping too low will start to cut out the Glit first
Will try +1hr tonight see if like patch +1hr is the largest rise

18:00 BG 6.5
250ml Shake Caramel Temptation Urrrrrrrrrr :? Far too sweet and sickly see this one
going in the Bin deff one to miss

1 apple and a strong coffee to rid me of that sweet taste
BG 2hr+ 8.5 Ummmmm :roll:

Edit for updates

 

[daisy1]

Good luck with it, Bob

 

[bowell]

Re: Defatizing with Slimfast by Bob

16th Tuesday

8:00 BG 6.0
10:00 BG 2hr+7.8 ..........Im normally in the 5<>6 range early days
Breakfast
Chocolate shake Best one so far I Like this one :mrgreen:

Black coffee and glass of water,, I Feel OK
Only bit tired as up few times in the Night (pain)
Not felt any hunger so far,, early days

Lunch BG 13:00 5.2
I went for the Chocolate shake Ummmm nice
2hr+ BG 6.1

Looking at BG so far I could cut some Glit out , see what happens with tonights slip slop up meal

Also forgot to do the 1hr + test to see whats going on

18:10 BG 6.4
1HR+ 9.3
2HR+ 6.5
Evening Meal Café Latte Flavour Shake Nice Dont mind this one at all
plus one stick of celery 62 gm

Having cabbage soup later on tonight ,,That will make up for the metfarting :mrgreen:

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[lovinglife]

good luck Bob - I am pleased to see your HC team supporting you with this - I agree the ready made choc one is best - it is the only one I could force down when I tried the slimfast diet many years ago (pre db)- I did lose weight but like many went back to my old ways and put it back on quite quickly

 

[Patch]

Bob - don't throw out the Caramel shake just yet (that bucket o'Slimfast looks expensive!)

I've found that over the course of a week or so, my tastebuds became more "tolerant" of the really sweet shakes (in my case, it was the Strawberry and the caramel shakes). Maybe caramel just ain't that nice, though? I won't be buying the caramel Optislim again...

 

[bowell]

Ok i will hang onto it and retry it a week later it but it was Soooooooooooooooo sweet and sickly

How did your weekend go ?

Slim-fast around £5 a can at Boots May try some of yours stuff later

Had a good look around loads of firms doing this kinda stuff

 

[bowell]

My Boys just come home from work early with Bloody Large size Pizza ,,"Get behind me you devil"

 

[borofergie]

Just have a single 800 kcal bite. You know you want to.

 

[RussG]

800kcal bite :lol:

reminds me of a Christmas episode of ER where a guy comes in with severe stomach pains after having had bariatric surgery. When asked what he'd had to eat he said, 'just a smoothie'. Doc asks, 'what was in it?', answer: 'turkey, potatoes, gravy, cabbage, stuffing, sausages...'

 

[pixor]

What's the carb value of a Slimfast shake? I've been using Atkins Advantage, as it's only 6g (2g net) per shake. I think the Optifast is around 20g!

 

[Patch]

Optislim is 20g per shake. I DO get a +1hr spike, but my fasting BG's are awesome. Tried it with some protein powder (Choc flavour) one night and had a much reduced +1hr reading....

 

[borofergie]

I think that you need to be a bit careful with your choice of gunk. Optifast and (to a lesser extent) Optislim are supposed to be nutritionally balanced meal replacements.

Most Protein Shakes (that I've seen) come with a warning saying that they should not be used for meal replacement.

I'm not sure if "nutritionally balanced" just means "contains lots of carbs", or if there are lots of carefully calculated minerals and stuff in there too.

It's only in our peverse little low-carb world that 60g of carbs seems like a lot. I found that my pre-meal BG readings were so low on this diet, that I could easily take a 20g spike (only ever got over 7mmol/l two or three times in 3 weeks).

 

[bowell]

What's the carb value of a Slimfast shake

Slim fast is Around 22 with water 35 if you use milk ( i use water)
Also like Optifast Optislim

Each Slim fast Shake Mix will provide 1/3 of your required daily nutrition

Vitamin A (µg)
Vitamin D2 (µg)
Vitamin E (mg)
Vitamin C (mg)
Thiamin (mg)
Riboflavin (mg)
Niacin (mg)
Vitamin B6 (mg)
Folic Acid (µg)
Vitamin B12 (µg)
Biotin (µg)
Pantothenic Acid (mg)

Minerals
Calcium (mg)
Phosphorus (mg)
Iron (mg)
Magnesium (mg)
Zinc (mg)
Iodine (µg)
Potassium (mg)
Copper (mg)
Selenium (µg)
Manganese (

 

[bowell]

My 2hr+BG are coming back lower than i expected see what happens with tonights slip slop delight
I may start dropping some of the Glipizide

Im Not feeling any hunger at all so far ,
But drinking the 3 liters of water is playing hell , Needing to catheter a lot more :roll:

Told my son to ****** off upstairs with his high carb time BOMB :evil:

 

[Kenny]

Nice one, bob. Keep it up.

 

[bowell]

17th Wednesday

BG 9:00 Up late BG 5.6
1hr+BG 8.7
2HR+ 7.7
Breakfast Banana Shake Um Um UMMMMMM Like This one as well Very Nice
If I had chilled this one first can Honestly say just like MACy-Deees
Black coffee

I forgot to drop the glit tablet out with Breakfast I will cut the lunch one out instead
For me looks like the way to do go drop the Meds slowly

Nice sunny day up here in Tut North May get out on the veranda with rocking chair un Gun put the wind up Dist nurse

Re- looked at the instruction on the can reckons you can make 12 meals from one can

Boots £5.99 per can = just under 50p a meal that must work out cheaper
per meal most of the others eg Optislim LCD Life Shake Sachet 99p per Sachet

The Pre-made slim-fast milkshakes from Boots are £1.69 handy if your Out


Lunch Time 2nd Banana Shake Ummm Ummmm
12:15 BG 7
14:15 2hrs + 6.1

Evening meal Chocolate shake with Ice UMMMMMMMMMM
18:30 BG 5.4
2hr+ 7.4 umm little bit higher have dropped 80mg Glit normal take with that meal

Will edit for later BG results

 

[Patch]

I've been worried about the sugar in these shakes for a while. So I bought some flavoured (milk) Protein Powder from a body building website (99p samples). Mix 'em up with water.

These powders have <2g total carbs per 30g serving, and are much thicker than the Optislim shakes. They don't taste as sweet (god/bad thing depending on taste) either.

I also compared the vit/min content in the Optislim to a normal (believe from Lidl/Aldi) 1-a-day A - Z multivit. The contents were almost identical, with the shakes having aproximately 1/3 of the RDA of each component as compared with the tablet.

So, in theory, you could do 2 (or 3 if you're "a brave/stupid* pioneer" :lol protein powder shakes, and 1 of the 1 a day multivits to do this the lo-carb way. Not too sure I'd like to try this - it's possible that it might make your liver kick out sugar. I'm trying to avoid that.

*Delete as appropriate. <That is NOT an invitation. :wink:

Keep it up , Bob. Have you noticed a change in your belly yet? Mine was pretty quick, and definitely noticable.

 

[lovinglife]

Don't know how you are making up the powdered shakes bowell but a little tip is use a stick blender if you have one rather than the shaker - makes them really frothy and thicker - I found them more palatable made like this and even more like macydees - just leave out the icecream!

 

[bowell]

Don't know how you are making up

I get the carer or my wife to shake um up :lol:
leave them for 5 min that shake again
Would just put me into spasms trying to shake them, probably put the thing though the window

Think i will try some ice cubes in one tonight

Belly Patch
Yes it does seem to be flatter, very handy when stabbing myself with the catheter.
Dog can see the rabbit now :mrgreen:

So far I am not finding it a problem at all ? could be that I am now used to just sitting here doing nothing ,except reading ,PC. TV. Talking to carer ,or any other poor soul that comes in range of my front door

I don't use that much energy so knowing my luck put lbs on :?
So far the slim-fast Chocolate .Banana ,Coffee Shakes I really like

We have a Loyds Chemist up the road so I may try a few of your make Optisilm Patch
If your Looking on line there are loads of VLCD on ebay just type VLCD on ebay
Slim-fast Tin seems the best value from looking around £5 for 12 meals

So far i am coming back down within limits 2hr+
i am going to drop one Glit off today see what happens tomorrow

Dist nurse called today taken armful of blood

Bob

 

[Leapoffaith]

Hi Bob
you are doing really well, what does the slimfast tast like with water, is it better or worse with milk??

Michele.